This is TV Land's explanation for why It's not the Network it was 10 years ago - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TVFactFan · 02-17-2008, 05:02 PM

TV Rep on the Message Boards stated that TV Land is now a Classic TV Network only because of the reasons below

1. Classic TV Network only wouldn't be able to keep the network afloat

2.Lot of Advertisers and Cab;e/Satellite Providers required that TV Land air more original programming so the network could be saved

3. TV Land can now survive as a Cable network with a combination of original programming, New vintage programming and movies

LOL, thoughts anyone?

Dean Winchester · 02-17-2008, 06:07 PM

it's sad that networks see ratings as something better than being true to themselves. Thank god you see some musicians who won't sell out and work with an emo/hip hop producer because it would guarentee more sales.

If you can't be true to yourself, who the hell are you going to be true to? Nick At Nite shows how crazy they are because they'd rather get 3 million viewers, and 10 million who bitch about how their programming has gone to hell, than 2.5 million viewers who love every single thing they show. It's only the difference of a half million viewers, and the reputation is a world different.

TVFactFan · 02-17-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

it's sad that networks see ratings as something better than being true to themselves. Thank god you see some musicians who won't sell out and work with an emo/hip hop producer because it would guarentee more sales.

If you can't be true to yourself, who the hell are you going to be true to? Nick At Nite shows how crazy they are because they'd rather get 3 million viewers, and 10 million who bitch about how their programming has gone to hell, than 2.5 million viewers who love every single thing they show. It's only the difference of a half million viewers, and the reputation is a world different.

He said that was the original plan for tv land to be classic tv only but it just wasn't pulling in the MONEY

Dean Winchester · 02-17-2008, 06:28 PM

well, I think people forget that QUALITY trumps QUANTITY. Yea, TV Land might pull in 7 million viewers if they aired Seinfeld, but there'd also be 17 million people on the boards bitching about how TV Land went to hell and sold out. Or it could have 3 million with a show that hasn't been seen in decades and people who like and dislike the show both think that the show is worthy for TV Land.

I don't get why people think quantity is always better. Would you rather have a devout fanbase that watches the network religiously or lose that devoted fanbase and have a bunch of people who just flip by the channels and go "hey, it's MASH" and watch, and then flip as soon as it's over? I think quality should matter more. Shows like MASH and Friends may bring in the ratings, but the true TV Land fans are sick of them.

treky · 02-17-2008, 10:06 PM

it's a shame that people are so greedy. Same reason we have music edits on some DVDs.

friendsfan77 · 02-17-2008, 11:37 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again; I'd honestly rather go defunct than sell out and betray my loyal and faithful fanbase.

dakert · 02-18-2008, 10:28 AM

How does Turner Classic Movies (TCM) make money? They dont even have commercials.

Zoneboy · 02-18-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dakert

How does Turner Classic Movies (TCM) make money? They dont even have commercials.

Ted Turner probably makes enough from his other holdings to compensate for that.

TVFactFan · 02-18-2008, 02:24 PM

I understand the move toward different programming but it can atleast be a balance, it just seems like it's 35% Classic TV and 65% everything else

JT · 02-18-2008, 06:37 PM

I think it's ****ed up that at 4:30 on a Monday afternoon, I turn on TVLand and "Sixteen Candles" is on.

It's just entirely too much and it needs to stop.

TVFactFan · 02-18-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JT

I think it's ****ed up that at 4:30 on a Monday afternoon, I turn on TVLand and "Sixteen Candles" is on.

It's just entirely too much and it needs to stop.

Yeah I think the network is in need of a name change

Ireneparalegal · 02-18-2008, 06:59 PM

It is a sad state of affairs when the advertisers DICTATE the network and tell them what they should air in order for them to want to be seen on their channel.

What kind of business is that when advertisers tell networks, "Air more original programming and I will consider paying you to air my ads." SEE YA is what the network should tell them.

Are you really serious TVland, that you can't find many sponsors or advertisers who would be willing to be seen on your channel? Do you take us for buffoons or something? If you keep airing the same ol' crap all the time, get rid of these mini-marathons, change the schedule every so often and keep the station "fresh", the ratings would be a lot better and the advertisers can see that an ALL CLASSIC STATION can and does work.

TVFactFan · 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

It is a sad state of affairs when the advertisers DICTATE the network and tell them what they should air in order for them to want to be seen on their channel.

What kind of business is that when advertisers tell networks, "Air more original programming and I will consider paying you to air my ads." SEE YA is what the network should tell them.

Are you really serious TVland, that you can't find many sponsors or advertisers who would be willing to be seen on your channel? Do you take us for buffoons or something? If you keep airing the same ol' crap all the time, get rid of these mini-marathons, change the schedule every so often and keep the station "fresh", the ratings would be a lot better and the advertisers can see that an ALL CLASSIC STATION can and does work.

But do we really know if a Classic TV Only network works since there are not really any examples out there?

Ireneparalegal · 02-18-2008, 07:06 PM

TVLAND WAS AN ALL CLASSIC NETWORK...and it worked for a very long time. How is it any different now? Think abt it. If we have all these channels airing 90's shows and current shows continuously, then wouldn't it be simple to think the need for a classic tv station is wanted? If you have ten restaurants that serve the same kind of food in your city, chances are you are going to visit the one restaurant that serves something different.

Mr. Television · 02-18-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

TVLAND WAS AN ALL CLASSIC NETWORK...and it worked for a very long time. How is it any different now? Think abt it. If we have all these channels airing 90's shows and current shows continuously, then wouldn't it be simple to think the need for a classic tv station is wanted? If you have ten restaurants that serve the same kind of food in your city, chances are you are going to visit the one restaurant that serves something different.

Not to mention that TV Land came about because N@N had been so popular and they needed another channel to air all the classics on.

02-17-2008, 05:02 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,065	This is TV Land's explanation for why It's not the Network it was 10 years ago TV Rep on the Message Boards stated that TV Land is now a Classic TV Network only because of the reasons below 1. Classic TV Network only wouldn't be able to keep the network afloat 2.Lot of Advertisers and Cab;e/Satellite Providers required that TV Land air more original programming so the network could be saved 3. TV Land can now survive as a Cable network with a combination of original programming, New vintage programming and movies LOL, thoughts anyone?

02-17-2008, 10:06 PM	#5
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	it's a shame that people are so greedy. Same reason we have music edits on some DVDs.
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02-18-2008, 06:37 PM	#10
JT Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 29, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 7,223	I think it's ****ed up that at 4:30 on a Monday afternoon, I turn on TVLand and "Sixteen Candles" is on. It's just entirely too much and it needs to stop.
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02-18-2008, 06:59 PM	#12
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	It is a sad state of affairs when the advertisers DICTATE the network and tell them what they should air in order for them to want to be seen on their channel. What kind of business is that when advertisers tell networks, "Air more original programming and I will consider paying you to air my ads." SEE YA is what the network should tell them. Are you really serious TVland, that you can't find many sponsors or advertisers who would be willing to be seen on your channel? Do you take us for buffoons or something? If you keep airing the same ol' crap all the time, get rid of these mini-marathons, change the schedule every so often and keep the station "fresh", the ratings would be a lot better and the advertisers can see that an ALL CLASSIC STATION can and does work.
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02-17-2008, 06:07 PM	#2
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	it's sad that networks see ratings as something better than being true to themselves. Thank god you see some musicians who won't sell out and work with an emo/hip hop producer because it would guarentee more sales. If you can't be true to yourself, who the hell are you going to be true to? Nick At Nite shows how crazy they are because they'd rather get 3 million viewers, and 10 million who bitch about how their programming has gone to hell, than 2.5 million viewers who love every single thing they show. It's only the difference of a half million viewers, and the reputation is a world different.

02-17-2008, 06:28 PM	#4
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	well, I think people forget that QUALITY trumps QUANTITY. Yea, TV Land might pull in 7 million viewers if they aired Seinfeld, but there'd also be 17 million people on the boards bitching about how TV Land went to hell and sold out. Or it could have 3 million with a show that hasn't been seen in decades and people who like and dislike the show both think that the show is worthy for TV Land. I don't get why people think quantity is always better. Would you rather have a devout fanbase that watches the network religiously or lose that devoted fanbase and have a bunch of people who just flip by the channels and go "hey, it's MASH" and watch, and then flip as soon as it's over? I think quality should matter more. Shows like MASH and Friends may bring in the ratings, but the true TV Land fans are sick of them.

02-17-2008, 11:37 PM	#6
friendsfan77 - Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 02, 2004 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 3,165	I've said it before and I'll say it again; I'd honestly rather go defunct than sell out and betray my loyal and faithful fanbase.

02-18-2008, 10:28 AM	#7
dakert Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2007 Location: Altoona PA Posts: 3,411	How does Turner Classic Movies (TCM) make money? They dont even have commercials.

02-18-2008, 02:24 PM	#9
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,065	I understand the move toward different programming but it can atleast be a balance, it just seems like it's 35% Classic TV and 65% everything else

02-18-2008, 07:06 PM	#14
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	TVLAND WAS AN ALL CLASSIC NETWORK...and it worked for a very long time. How is it any different now? Think abt it. If we have all these channels airing 90's shows and current shows continuously, then wouldn't it be simple to think the need for a classic tv station is wanted? If you have ten restaurants that serve the same kind of food in your city, chances are you are going to visit the one restaurant that serves something different.