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Todd Mueller · 02-17-2008, 12:55 PM

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but what do you think is the most controversial case UM ever did?

It's not necessarily one that you don't believe, but which ones do you think have the most amount of people on both sides? (I realize it's funny to argue about controversy... but go with me on this.)

We don't need to argue the merits of the case here. That's probably been done elsewhere already. Just add your ideas to the list.

I'll start with a few. . .

1. Jeffrey MacDonald
2. Cindy James
3. The Wackers

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 02-17-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Mueller

but which ones do you think have the most amount of people on both sides?

Dale Kerstetter. I don't think too many people can say for sure what exactly happened to him.

greatgarrett2 · 02-17-2008, 06:34 PM

Two words:

Clarence Roberts.........

UMfan0682 · 02-17-2008, 07:26 PM

Well for me, along with the Jeffrey MacDonald case already mentioned, I would have to say the case of Aileen Conway is very controversial. This case has so many clues to really give you something to think about. From the clues left at her home (water running, iron) to the church flyer found a short distance away I just can't decide what happened to Aileen.

marlins3 · 02-18-2008, 11:45 AM

david dowaliby

Tim Bidner

hansen murders (b/c Donnie cann;t be tried twice)

kamy · 02-18-2008, 11:54 AM

Danny Casalaro and Angela Hammond.

ididn'tdoit · 02-18-2008, 12:54 PM

I would have to say Kevin Ives and Don Henry.

Todd Mueller · 02-18-2008, 12:56 PM

Darlie Routier

(I just re-watched this one and it defintiely qualifies...)

justins5256 · 02-18-2008, 01:34 PM

Robert F. Kennedy assassination and the possibility of a second gunman being involved.

Along those lines how abut the story about Huey Long and the possibility that Dr. Weiss was innocent of the shooting.

Also, the segment about the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination.

Huskerz85 · 02-18-2008, 04:14 PM

I'd say Tara Calico........for the simple fact I never saw it on other than in the early morning (2AM), half-hour time slot......

mhryvnak · 02-18-2008, 11:14 PM

Nyleen Kay Marshall. Those letters that were sent to her family were just plain disturbing, whether they were legit or not.

greatgarrett2 · 02-19-2008, 10:10 PM

Another one to add to the list.....Son of Sam

I wonder if he acted alone or was a member of a conspiracy? I have the book and Maury Terry's arguments seem pretty convincing.........

kadrmas15 · 02-20-2008, 01:29 AM

Justin, a 2nd gunman WAS involved in the RFK assassination (in my opinion). Of course the LAPD which is notoriously corrupt "lost" aka destroyed any and all evidence that would prove this. Did you know that Sirhan Sirhan's bullets all missed RFK and that his bullets were fired into the wall behind RFK? The wood paneling was later "lost" by the LAPD. Also, Sirhan Sirhan from where he was standing, he was standing behind RFK yet RFK was hit from the front.

It is just like with JFK how they suddenly reveal just days ago that Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby did in fact know each other at least 6 weeks BEFORE JFK was shot? Interesting how the Dallas DA suddenly decides after over 44 years to make this little fact public. Again, Oswald did not kill JFK (in my opinion) the shots that killed Kennedy came from the grassy knoll.

marlins3 · 02-20-2008, 11:05 AM

DB Cooper - There is no doubt in my mind that Richard McCoy (I think the first name was Richard) was DB Cooper. american Justice profiled this case and did a GREAT job with it (I think the special was 2 hours). They delve deeper into the theory and the fact the McCoy was a green beret, when he was killed, they found thousands of dollars in a closet, etc. I wish UM would have explored this theory further. All they did was mention McCoy.

I really don't feel the Son of Sam segment is controversial at all. I've never doubted that he did not act alone.

Other controversial segments are Huey Long and James Earl Ray

justins5256 · 02-20-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Justin, a 2nd gunman WAS involved in the RFK assassination (in my opinion). Of course the LAPD which is notoriously corrupt "lost" aka destroyed any and all evidence that would prove this. Did you know that Sirhan Sirhan's bullets all missed RFK and that his bullets were fired into the wall behind RFK? The wood paneling was later "lost" by the LAPD. Also, Sirhan Sirhan from where he was standing, he was standing behind RFK yet RFK was hit from the front.

Kadrmas,

I was curious of you have seen this website. There has been some interesting new analysis of the acoustics evidence in this case
http://hnn.us/articles/36915.html

Let me just say it's about damn time. I have all the various audio recordings of the RFK assassination and on a couple of them you can clearly hear the shots. The fact that these tapes exist is no secret, but aside from an obscure and highly questionable analysis in 1982, they have been overlooked.

02-17-2008, 12:55 PM	#1
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	Most controversial UM case? I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but what do you think is the most controversial case UM ever did? It's not necessarily one that you don't believe, but which ones do you think have the most amount of people on both sides? (I realize it's funny to argue about controversy... but go with me on this.) We don't need to argue the merits of the case here. That's probably been done elsewhere already. Just add your ideas to the list. I'll start with a few. . . 1. Jeffrey MacDonald 2. Cindy James 3. The Wackers

02-17-2008, 06:34 PM	#3
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02-17-2008, 07:26 PM	#4
UMfan0682 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 11, 2004 Posts: 124	Well for me, along with the Jeffrey MacDonald case already mentioned, I would have to say the case of Aileen Conway is very controversial. This case has so many clues to really give you something to think about. From the clues left at her home (water running, iron) to the church flyer found a short distance away I just can't decide what happened to Aileen.

02-18-2008, 11:45 AM	#5
marlins3 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 22, 2007 Posts: 474	david dowaliby Tim Bidner hansen murders (b/c Donnie cann;t be tried twice)

02-18-2008, 11:54 AM	#6
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	Danny Casalaro and Angela Hammond.

02-18-2008, 12:54 PM	#7
ididn'tdoit Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 03, 2006 Posts: 405	I would have to say Kevin Ives and Don Henry.

02-18-2008, 12:56 PM	#8
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	Darlie Routier (I just re-watched this one and it defintiely qualifies...)

02-18-2008, 01:34 PM	#9
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Robert F. Kennedy assassination and the possibility of a second gunman being involved. Along those lines how abut the story about Huey Long and the possibility that Dr. Weiss was innocent of the shooting. Also, the segment about the Martin Luther King Jr. assassination.

02-18-2008, 04:14 PM	#10
Huskerz85 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Westeros Posts: 740	I'd say Tara Calico........for the simple fact I never saw it on other than in the early morning (2AM), half-hour time slot......

02-18-2008, 11:14 PM	#11
mhryvnak Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 13, 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Posts: 24	Nyleen Kay Marshall. Those letters that were sent to her family were just plain disturbing, whether they were legit or not.

02-19-2008, 10:10 PM	#12
greatgarrett2 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 11, 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 544	Another one to add to the list.....Son of Sam I wonder if he acted alone or was a member of a conspiracy? I have the book and Maury Terry's arguments seem pretty convincing.........

02-20-2008, 01:29 AM	#13
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Justin, a 2nd gunman WAS involved in the RFK assassination (in my opinion). Of course the LAPD which is notoriously corrupt "lost" aka destroyed any and all evidence that would prove this. Did you know that Sirhan Sirhan's bullets all missed RFK and that his bullets were fired into the wall behind RFK? The wood paneling was later "lost" by the LAPD. Also, Sirhan Sirhan from where he was standing, he was standing behind RFK yet RFK was hit from the front. It is just like with JFK how they suddenly reveal just days ago that Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby did in fact know each other at least 6 weeks BEFORE JFK was shot? Interesting how the Dallas DA suddenly decides after over 44 years to make this little fact public. Again, Oswald did not kill JFK (in my opinion) the shots that killed Kennedy came from the grassy knoll.

02-20-2008, 11:05 AM	#14
marlins3 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 22, 2007 Posts: 474	DB Cooper - There is no doubt in my mind that Richard McCoy (I think the first name was Richard) was DB Cooper. american Justice profiled this case and did a GREAT job with it (I think the special was 2 hours). They delve deeper into the theory and the fact the McCoy was a green beret, when he was killed, they found thousands of dollars in a closet, etc. I wish UM would have explored this theory further. All they did was mention McCoy. I really don't feel the Son of Sam segment is controversial at all. I've never doubted that he did not act alone. Other controversial segments are Huey Long and James Earl Ray