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Old 11-14-2007, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default How do today's cartoons fare with the 60s, 70s, 80s ones?

for me, for the exception of say the simpsons, the majority of today's cartoons, particuarly king of the hill, south park and family guy cannot compete with or come even remotely close to classics such as yogi bear, bug bunny, the flintstones, thundercats, alvin and the chipmunks to name.

if i had to choose i'd choose to watch classic, quality cartoons over the current toons that are on tv right now

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I couldn't agree more. I used to think that, in my case (I'm 60 years old now)
it was just nostalgia and a yearning for my childhood days. But, after giving
some more thought to it, the simple truth is the classic shows (from the '60s
especially) WERE better than today's, in every respect: the production values, the writing, the characters, the voices, the music, the sound effects,
you-name-it. And those characters had staying power that spanned generations: Yogi Bear, Bullwinkle the Moose, Beany & Cecil, The Flintstones,
The Alvin Show, Top Cat, The Jetsons, Underdog (to name a few). I'm proud
to have been part of that generation that saw those cartoons when they were first aired. The pre-video & DVD era was a special time. If you were
like me, you only got perfect reception on one channel and, if you wanted to
watch a cartoon you had to either wait until late afternoon (when you got
home from school) or until Saturday morning. Today's kids are lucky--they
can pop a cartoon into the DVD player anytime they want to. And it can be
a cartoon from any decade, past or present. I sometimes watch recent or
current cartoons and occasionally even laugh at them. But I still find more
entertainment from seeing a cartoon that I haven't seen in 30 or 40 years:
because back then it was all about quality .. today it's all about profit.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:21 AM   #3
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I couldn't agree more. I used to think that, in my case (I'm 60 years old now)
it was just nostalgia and a yearning for my childhood days. But, after giving
some more thought to it, the simple truth is the classic shows (from the '60s
especially) WERE better than today's, in every respect: the production values, the writing, the characters, the voices, the music, the sound effects,
you-name-it. And those characters had staying power that spanned generations: Yogi Bear, Bullwinkle the Moose, Beany & Cecil, The Flintstones,
The Alvin Show, Top Cat, The Jetsons, Underdog (to name a few). I'm proud
to have been part of that generation that saw those cartoons when they were first aired. The pre-video & DVD era was a special time. If you were
like me, you only got perfect reception on one channel and, if you wanted to
watch a cartoon you had to either wait until late afternoon (when you got
home from school) or until Saturday morning. Today's kids are lucky--they
can pop a cartoon into the DVD player anytime they want to. And it can be
a cartoon from any decade, past or present. I sometimes watch recent or
current cartoons and occasionally even laugh at them. But I still find more
entertainment from seeing a cartoon that I haven't seen in 30 or 40 years:
because back then it was all about quality .. today it's all about profit.
also, its not just staying power, but the fact is that those characters have a mass appeal with people of all ages. unlike today's cartoons, which are targeted towards just the kids of today. yes kids are lucky, they- in fact we can watch classic cartoons via the internet and youtube but the stuff they are being fed with, the cartoons that they are given, 99% of them are just plain awful. the sad thing is that today's kids do not know who yogi bear is, or have never seen a warner bros cartoon. i feel sorry for those kids who are being fed such crap. no wonder animation studios are closing down. no wonder the likes of filmation and hanna barbera are no longer producing and creating the types of cartoons we want to watch
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I totally agree with you guys!
Cartoons today are all so frenetic, it's no wonder that a lot of kids have problems with short attention spans.

I mean, Daffy Duck was quite wild and frantic(mostly early Daffy), but that was him, the character, not the whole bloody cartoon.

I grew up watching Jonny Quest, Scooby Doo, things like that. Remember when you looked forward to Saturday mornings? Now cartoons are on 24/7, and maybe because of that, have little to no substance to them.
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Disney prior to 1966-Best animation ever. Only M-G-M and Warner Brothers were their main competition.

Disney since 1966-Animation became cheap. Now It's head-to-head-to-head with Cartoon Network and Viacom. But since it made many direct-to-videos, the quality sucks.
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I totally agree with you guys!
Cartoons today are all so frenetic, it's no wonder that a lot of kids have problems with short attention spans.

I mean, Daffy Duck was quite wild and frantic(mostly early Daffy), but that was him, the character, not the whole bloody cartoon.

I grew up watching Jonny Quest, Scooby Doo, things like that. Remember when you looked forward to Saturday mornings? Now cartoons are on 24/7, and maybe because of that, have little to no substance to them.
also during the 60s, 70s, 80s, we didn't have cable tv and hundreds of channels with a few devoted to cartoons. cartoons were a staple diet of family life- some taught morals, but they were good, clean, wholesome fun that everyone could enjoy. i don't understand all the fuss surrounding family guy for instance. it may be a good cartoon by today's standards but when pitched against 15 min warner bros shorts or 10, 25 mins of hanna barbera animation, it just doesn't stand a chance. the reason why its funny is because of the pop cultural influences and references to tv shows, films celebrities. take that away and the show in truth would be mediocre
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Disney prior to 1966-Best animation ever. Only M-G-M and Warner Brothers were their main competition.

Disney since 1966-Animation became cheap. Now It's head-to-head-to-head with Cartoon Network and Viacom. But since it made many direct-to-videos, the quality sucks.
although i'm not a particular fan of disney, i preferred some of their animated shows to their feature length movies. but otherwise, i've always had an inkling for warner bros and hanna barbera and to a certain extent, filmation
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Give me the old cartoons over the new ones any day. They don't know how to make cartoons anymore. The only new cartoons I like are The Batman and Justice League. I was sickened with the new live action Underdog, they totally ruined the characters.
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Give me the old cartoons over the new ones any day. They don't know how to make cartoons anymore. The only new cartoons I like are The Batman and Justice League. I was sickened with the new live action Underdog, they totally ruined the characters.
being born in the 80s i was fortunate to see so many great cartoons. it was a great time for cartoons, and most definitely, they just don't seem to make them like they used to do. or in fact, they couldn't care anymore. our current kids are missing out on a lot of the good stuff from the 60s-80s on tv and also in the uk, itv- one of the two main broadcasting channels have already stopped showing cartoons and children's programmes altogether, with bbc1 about to follow suit, next year.

this is sad to see because unless their families have cable or satalite, they will never be able to watch their favourite cartoons. then again, the cartoons they have on those channels are awful and so they can always turn to the internet of course.

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being born in the 80s i was fortunate to see so many great cartoons. it was great time for cartoons, and most definitely, they just don't seem to make them like they used to do. or in fact, they couldn't care anymore. our current kids are missing out on a lot of the good stuff from the 60s-80s on tv and also in the uk, itv- one of the two main broadcasting channels have already stopped showing cartoons and children's programmes altogether, with bbc1 about to follow suit, next year.

this is sad to see because unless their families have cable or satalite, they will never be able to watch their favourite cartoons. then again, the cartoons they have on those channels are awful and so they can always turn to the internet of course.

I grew up in the 80's (born 1974) I loved the cartoons of the 80's. As a kid I couldn't wait to get up on Saturday morning and watch cartoons until 12pm. everything that you have stated is soooo true. They had a different variety of catoons and you very rarley saw a marathon.I introduce my children to the cartoons that I grew up with via dvd. They love them especially looney tunes. Children these days don't realize the cartoons that they are missing out on because Jimmy Neutron and Ed Edd and Eddy just don't cut it!
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being born in the 80s i was fortunate to see so many great cartoons. it was a great time for cartoons, and most definitely, they just don't seem to make them like they used to do. or in fact, they couldn't care anymore. our current kids are missing out on a lot of the good stuff from the 60s-80s on tv and also in the uk, itv- one of the two main broadcasting channels have already stopped showing cartoons and children's programmes altogether, with bbc1 about to follow suit, next year.

this is sad to see because unless their families have cable or satalite, they will never be able to watch their favourite cartoons. then again, the cartoons they have on those channels are awful and so they can always turn to the internet of course.
I know what ya mean, what I did was pass on the old cartoons from the 60's to my neighbors kid who is 7 now. He enjoyed them thoroughly, as they were knew to him his favorite seemed to be Yakky Doodle and Chopper.
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I know what ya mean, what I did was pass on the old cartoons from the 60's to my neighbors kid who is 7 now. He enjoyed them thoroughly, as they were knew to him his favorite seemed to be Yakky Doodle and Chopper.
good for you. i'd suggest they turn to youtube because that is where you will find so many vintage cartoons being posted by other people. it is the one and only site i can rely on for watching cartoons such as tom and jerry, alvin and the chipmunks to name. i wish people would post more episodes of thundercats, mr t- yes mr T, top cat etc. although there is always the issue of copyright laws they'd have to contend with
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