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NOVARick · 10-28-2007, 06:23 PM

I was just in Costco and saw the new release for the first time. I was a bit take aback to read the claim on the label that the colorized Scotland episode included in this release is the first-ever fully-colorized episode. This is NOT true. At one of the Burbank conventions, they presented in one of the screening rooms a fully colorized "L.A. at Last!" It may be true that this Scotland episode is the first episode colorized to present-day colorization standards ("L.A. at Last!" was colorized in the '90s), and it may be the most accurate as they had color photos and color film taken at the dress reheasal available to them to work with, but it's still not the first nor only fully-colorized episode. And I have to wonder what they did with that colorized "L.A. at Last!" Is that going to turn up in yet another release as the newly discovered, long-lost first fully colorized episode?

caladon · 10-28-2007, 06:43 PM

Didn't CBS run a colorized version of the rarely seen "Christmas" episode back in the late 80's? It was basically a clip show set at Christmas time.

NOVARick · 10-28-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by caladon

Didn't CBS run a colorized version of the rarely seen "Christmas" episode back in the late 80's? It was basically a clip show set at Christmas time.

Yes, but only the wrap-around material was colorized. None of the flashback scenes were.

PolarCub75@aol.com · 10-28-2007, 07:53 PM

Hey, NOVARick!

From what I understand, something happened and CBS lost the original master copy of the colorized "LA at Last" episode. The only version that exists is on a VHS video videocassette tape, which Gregg Oppenheimer currently owns. I don't remember who it was, but I spoke to somebody a while ago and asked why it never turned up on any commercially released "Lucy" items. He said that Gregg Oppenheimer didn't think it would be worth it to release it because, he didn't feel that it would be of interest to I Love Lucy fans because, the picture and sound quality is not as excellent as it was on the original master tape, and doesn't thing it would hold the interest of the fans. I, as well as a lot of other big I Love Lucy fans have never seen this and would like to see it. The person I had this converstion with knows Gregg Oppenheimer and said he would give him the message. This was quite some time ago. I mean, I can understand them not releasing it if video quality is so poor that you can't see it or hear it.

PolarCub75@aol.com · 10-28-2007, 08:16 PM

From what I understand (although, I wasn't there), the episode wasn't fully colorized. What I mean is, only a portion was colorized. I don't know if this is true or not. I heard that it was only colorized up until the end of The Brown Derby scene. This is what I heard. I could be wrong, though. By the way, NOVARick, How did they do on the colorization of the episode? I wonder if it was the same people who colorized the Christmas Show. What was it like? I mean, how was it compared to the colorized Christmas Show & the newly colorized "Lucy Goes to Scotland" episode? What about the "Heart on satin" opening credits? They are one way when they show the titles of the episodes on the DVDs, (which I always thought was the original color). Then, there is the colorized Christmas show version. And, now the "Lucy Goes to Scotland" version and from what the man in charge of the company who colorized the "Scotland" episode, they got all of the correct color information on for the "Heart on satin" opening credits. So, it was the way it was meant/intended to be seen.

NOVARick · 10-28-2007, 10:54 PM

No, that's not true. At the opening night ceremonies, they only showed the Brown Derby portion, but a lot of people didn't realize that the rest of the weekend they were showing the full episode in the screening room. I didn't know this either until I went in there. Most people didn't even bother going into the screening room because there was so much going on elsewhere. But I sat in there and watched the full episode. I know this episode is colorized in full because I've seen it in full. (Yes, I saw Lucy's putty nose catch on fire in color.) As for the quality, it wasn't perfect, but I remember thinking it was pretty good. I remember it being better than the Christmas episode, which is pretty bad. I haven't seen the colorized Scotland episode so I can't comment. But I assume the Scotland episode is superior because it was only recently colorized.

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Originally Posted by PolarCub75@aol.com

From what I understand (although, I wasn't there), the episode wasn't fully colorized. What I mean is, only a portion was colorized. I don't know if this is true or not. I heard that it was only colorized up until the end of The Brown Derby scene. This is what I heard. I could be wrong, though. By the way, NOVARick, How did they do on the colorization of the episode? I wonder if it was the same people who colorized the Christmas Show. What was it like? I mean, how was it compared to the colorized Christmas Show & the newly colorized "Lucy Goes to Scotland" episode? What about the "Heart on satin" opening credits? They are one way when they show the titles of the episodes on the DVDs, (which I always thought was the original color). Then, there is the colorized Christmas show version. And, now the "Lucy Goes to Scotland" version and from what the man in charge of the company who colorized the "Scotland" episode, they got all of the correct color information on for the "Heart on satin" opening credits. So, it was the way it was meant/intended to be seen.

SPLAIN · 10-29-2007, 10:04 AM

I'm sure that two years from now, they'll be pushing their latest boxed set release, THE WHOLE SERIES IN GLORIOUS COLOR. Witht the advances they've made in the colorization process lately, they should all be as glorious as the Scotland ep.

Robert 13 · 10-29-2007, 01:22 PM

I wish we could somehow get the Christmas episode in color. I remember watching it back then. I didn't record it and now I wish I had.

PolarCub75@aol.com · 10-29-2007, 01:28 PM

Oh, but you can, Robert13!

It's currently available on the I Love Lucy: The Complete Sixth Season DVD and/or the I Love Lucy" The Complete Series DVD. So, it is commercially released.

caladon · 10-29-2007, 02:36 PM

Just an opinion; but colorizing the episodes of any show only has appeal as a initial novelty that quickly wears off; and for me, doesn't add to the overall enjoyment of the viewing. The shows I grew up watching, that were filmed in black and white, have a certain innate charm that is lost in the colorization process.

I can understand restoring old faded color shows to their former state, but why colorize black and white shows? What's the point; does it add to their commercial value? Just curious.

SPLAIN · 10-29-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert 13

I wish we could somehow get the Christmas episode in color. I remember watching it back then. I didn't record it and now I wish I had.

I recorded it when it played on CBS but got rid of it when it came out on the season by season dvds BUT, they had omitted the scenes from the show, didn't they? And they could also have colorized them, oh wait, that's maybe what they did, they showed them but not in color? I forget. But the coloring process has become even better since then so to do all the shows would be great.

Lodee · 10-29-2007, 06:13 PM

The flashback scenes weren't colorized. So the Scotland colorized episode is pretty cool then?

Lodee · 10-29-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NOVARick

I was just in Costco and saw the new release for the first time. I was a bit take aback to read the claim on the label that the colorized Scotland episode included in this release is the first-ever fully-colorized episode. This is NOT true. At one of the Burbank conventions, they presented in one of the screening rooms a fully colorized "L.A. at Last!" It may be true that this Scotland episode is the first episode colorized to present-day colorization standards ("L.A. at Last!" was colorized in the '90s), and it may be the most accurate as they had color photos and color film taken at the dress reheasal available to them to work with, but it's still not the first nor only fully-colorized episode. And I have to wonder what they did with that colorized "L.A. at Last!" Is that going to turn up in yet another release as the newly discovered, long-lost first fully colorized episode?

Ha! That's probably exactly what will happen.

SPLAIN · 10-30-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lodee

The flashback scenes weren't colorized. So the Scotland colorized episode is pretty cool then?

Well, that's what i mean, you call it a color episode and you don't even bother colorizing the three flashback scenes? Yes, the Scotland ep is absolutely incredible to watch, you think you're there.

10-28-2007, 06:23 PM	#1
NOVARick Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 19, 2005 Posts: 925	The Lie on the Complete Series Packaging I was just in Costco and saw the new release for the first time. I was a bit take aback to read the claim on the label that the colorized Scotland episode included in this release is the first-ever fully-colorized episode. This is NOT true. At one of the Burbank conventions, they presented in one of the screening rooms a fully colorized "L.A. at Last!" It may be true that this Scotland episode is the first episode colorized to present-day colorization standards ("L.A. at Last!" was colorized in the '90s), and it may be the most accurate as they had color photos and color film taken at the dress reheasal available to them to work with, but it's still not the first nor only fully-colorized episode. And I have to wonder what they did with that colorized "L.A. at Last!" Is that going to turn up in yet another release as the newly discovered, long-lost first fully colorized episode?

10-28-2007, 06:43 PM	#2
caladon Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 30, 2001 Location: Massachusetts state home for the bewildered Posts: 1,151	Didn't CBS run a colorized version of the rarely seen "Christmas" episode back in the late 80's? It was basically a clip show set at Christmas time.

10-28-2007, 07:53 PM	#4
PolarCub75@aol.com Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 24, 2003 Location: Edison, New Jersey Posts: 189	Hey, NOVARick! From what I understand, something happened and CBS lost the original master copy of the colorized "LA at Last" episode. The only version that exists is on a VHS video videocassette tape, which Gregg Oppenheimer currently owns. I don't remember who it was, but I spoke to somebody a while ago and asked why it never turned up on any commercially released "Lucy" items. He said that Gregg Oppenheimer didn't think it would be worth it to release it because, he didn't feel that it would be of interest to I Love Lucy fans because, the picture and sound quality is not as excellent as it was on the original master tape, and doesn't thing it would hold the interest of the fans. I, as well as a lot of other big I Love Lucy fans have never seen this and would like to see it. The person I had this converstion with knows Gregg Oppenheimer and said he would give him the message. This was quite some time ago. I mean, I can understand them not releasing it if video quality is so poor that you can't see it or hear it.

10-28-2007, 08:16 PM	#5
PolarCub75@aol.com Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 24, 2003 Location: Edison, New Jersey Posts: 189	From what I understand (although, I wasn't there), the episode wasn't fully colorized. What I mean is, only a portion was colorized. I don't know if this is true or not. I heard that it was only colorized up until the end of The Brown Derby scene. This is what I heard. I could be wrong, though. By the way, NOVARick, How did they do on the colorization of the episode? I wonder if it was the same people who colorized the Christmas Show. What was it like? I mean, how was it compared to the colorized Christmas Show & the newly colorized "Lucy Goes to Scotland" episode? What about the "Heart on satin" opening credits? They are one way when they show the titles of the episodes on the DVDs, (which I always thought was the original color). Then, there is the colorized Christmas show version. And, now the "Lucy Goes to Scotland" version and from what the man in charge of the company who colorized the "Scotland" episode, they got all of the correct color information on for the "Heart on satin" opening credits. So, it was the way it was meant/intended to be seen.

10-29-2007, 10:04 AM	#7
SPLAIN I Love Lucy Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: MONTREAL, CANADA Posts: 4,563	I'm sure that two years from now, they'll be pushing their latest boxed set release, THE WHOLE SERIES IN GLORIOUS COLOR. Witht the advances they've made in the colorization process lately, they should all be as glorious as the Scotland ep.

10-29-2007, 01:22 PM	#8
Robert 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,521	I wish we could somehow get the Christmas episode in color. I remember watching it back then. I didn't record it and now I wish I had.

10-29-2007, 01:28 PM	#9
PolarCub75@aol.com Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 24, 2003 Location: Edison, New Jersey Posts: 189	Oh, but you can, Robert13! It's currently available on the I Love Lucy: The Complete Sixth Season DVD and/or the I Love Lucy" The Complete Series DVD. So, it is commercially released.

10-29-2007, 02:36 PM	#10
caladon Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 30, 2001 Location: Massachusetts state home for the bewildered Posts: 1,151	Just an opinion; but colorizing the episodes of any show only has appeal as a initial novelty that quickly wears off; and for me, doesn't add to the overall enjoyment of the viewing. The shows I grew up watching, that were filmed in black and white, have a certain innate charm that is lost in the colorization process. I can understand restoring old faded color shows to their former state, but why colorize black and white shows? What's the point; does it add to their commercial value? Just curious.

10-29-2007, 06:13 PM	#12
Lodee Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 12, 2003 Posts: 1,562	The flashback scenes weren't colorized. So the Scotland colorized episode is pretty cool then?