Who Was Lucille Ball?

[NOVARick]

Interesting site: http://famous-relationships.topsyner.../Lucille_Ball/

Serious and responsible, she tries to carry the world on her shoulders and rarely let others know that she needs help and support. Lucille Ball denies or ignores her own emotional needs and feels that others will not accept her if she appears "weak". She is especially uncomfortable with emotional dependency, and will tell herself and others (even children) not to be a "baby". Lucille Ball needs to accept that no one is self-sufficient all the time, and to be gentler with her "childish" emotional needs and wants. To others, she may appear to be rather hard-nosed and tough, with a businesslike attitude toward their personal concerns and feelings. Actually, no one is a truer friend. Her feelings and loyalties run deep, but she often does not let people know how much she cares. Lucille Ball also needs to learn to relax, enjoy herself, and play sometimes.

Lucille Ball has a soft exterior and tends to relate very personally and sympathetically to other people. However, Lucille sometimes lets her emotions overpower her reasoning and logic, and consequently she is sometimes biased in her opinions. Lucille Ball is impressionable and rather gentle, or at least that is the way she appears. Her feelings are on the surface and Lucille cannot hide her emotions.

Generally sunny and optimistic, Lucille Ball has a cheering effect on those around her. Lucille likes and needs people, and others genuinely like her too. She enjoys a wide circle of friends who are like family to her. Entertaining, partying, social activities, and fellowship are essential ingredients for her emotional well-being.

Her relationships have an emotional overtone and Lucille Ball has a strong desire to share her feelings with others. Her circle of friends is likely to be large and Lucille enjoys many pleasant meeting with them.

She is quietly devoted and faithful to her loved ones, and often becomes a kind of servant to her love partner. Lucille Ball is more comfortable showing love for someone by doing something for them, making something for them, or simply being there for them - rather than telling them so in a romantic, soul-stirring sort of way. She is timid about expressing too much sentiment or emotion. Lucille Ball also underestimates her attractiveness and lovability and doubts her own worthiness to receive love and appreciation.

Lucille is attracted to foreigners, exotic places, traveling, and to people who can expand her horizons, teach her something, or show Ball places and worlds she has never experienced before. Sharing a philosophy or ideal with her love partner is important to her.

Also, Lucille Ball feels love and kinship for people everywhere, not only with her own family, nationality, or group. Finding similarities and making links between people from differing backgrounds or with different perspectives is a gift of hers.

Loyalty, fidelity, and security are very important to Lucille Ball in love relationships. She is cautious about giving her heart away but true to the one who does win her love. Her tastes are simple, even austere, and she does not appreciate frivolity. Ball is interested in a person's character and inner qualities far more than their appearance. Casual or superficial relationships do not interest Lucille Ball at all, for love seems to get deeper and richer and more satisfying for her with time.

When it comes to love relationships, Ball is apt to feel pulled in several directions at once. In addition to her desire for depth and for security in her relationships, Lucille Ball has an impulsive side and need a lot of variety and excitement, as discussed in the following paragraphs. These urges do not have to conflict, but they certainly can, especially if Lucille acts on her spontaneous impulses without much consideration for their long-term effects on her personal life.

She is open and progressive in her attitudes towards love relationships and romance, and spontaneous and free in her love-expression. Lucille Ball is always willing to experiment and try anything new that Ball's partner suggests, and she enjoys being surprised. Relationship in which both Lucille and her partner have a good deal of freedom and independence will hold Ball's interest much more than safe, predictable ones.

Lucille Ball has a rich, colorful, dreamy imagination and a refined sense of beauty. Involvement in the arts, or with artistic, sensitive, or spiritually inclined people is very satisfying to her. In her friendships and romantic relationships, Ball tends to be unselfish, giving, and forgiving. Lucille Ball might enjoy joining with others for charitable events or social service.

Lucille Ball experiences powerful, compelling emotional and sexual attractions, and she may feel that she has little choice or control over her desires. Lucille has an intense need for love and may be emotionally greedy or insatiable. Her love relationships are passionate and often tumultuous and painful as well. Jealousy, power struggles, or possessiveness can become areas of conflict in her relationships. Positively, Lucille Ball can be unusually creative and bring about beneficial and healing changes in the lives of others, motivated by her deeply felt love.

Her strong enthusiasm for life affects everyone around her. Lucille Ball has a sense of well-being, a harmonious sex-life and she is likely to enjoy healthy and affectionate love relationships. Lucille Ball also has a lot of creative ideas and could do well with some kind of craft projects.

Her romantic relationships are inclined to be rather stressed. Lucille Ball longs for new experiences on one hand, but feels restricted or thwarted by circumstances on the other. Ball tends to fight against limitations and may frequently be irritated by the conduct of others.

[Ireneparalegal]

What a beautiful post. Awesome indeed. Lucille Ball evoked charm, class, sophistication and made you feel so good no matter how rotten you may feel. How many times I have laid in bed in pain or with the flu or some other rotten ailment and there was Lucy on t.v. making me laugh and smile when others couldn't. THANK YOU LUCY FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL MEMORIES YOU LEFT BEHIND.


My five year old son has just recently gotten into watching ILL with me. He knew the theme song since he was 6 months old, however just recently while he and I laid in bed sick, we watched the marathon. He especially loved the episode where Lucy and Ricky do the benefit that Ethel wanted Ricky for. The part where Lucy is practicing her singing on the piano and just as she says "Ahhhh" and the doorbell rings... my son just bursted out laughing. He was practically choking from laughing so hard when she did that again. He enjoyed that scene so much that for the rest of the day he kept imitating Lucy and that part. It was so funny hearing him go higher and higher with the notes saying, "Ahhhh" and then he made that loud doorbell buzz. It was hilarious. Now, when he sees Lucy on the air, he always asks me if it is abt "Lucy going aaahhhh". I tell him no but he will watch it with me and laugh at the crazy other things she does.

I am not amazed that she has "channeled" my son. She did that to me at the age of 6. I can't think of any other show (other than cartoons or kid programs) that can grab the attention of a child, especially my son, the way she has. It goes beyond words how her simple show can grab you and pull you in to watch. KUDOS TO LUCY.

[NOVARick]

Nice sentiments, Irene. And I love the story about your son watching that scene in "The Benefit." It is amazing how Lucille Ball's work can continue making us laugh, even at the worst times, and for so many years. I have probably been watching her since I was a baby because my mother had her show on every week. But I know I have been watching since age 3 or 4 because I have memories of watching at that age. That's over 40 years ago. And around age eleven, I became a huge fan and have been ever since. I've been a fan of many different artists through the years, but nobody's work has held my interest so consistently and strongly as hers.

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

What a beautiful post. Awesome indeed. Lucille Ball evoked charm, class, sophistication and made you feel so good no matter how rotten you may feel. How many times I have laid in bed in pain or with the flu or some other rotten ailment and there was Lucy on t.v. making me laugh and smile when others couldn't. THANK YOU LUCY FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL MEMORIES YOU LEFT BEHIND.


My five year old son has just recently gotten into watching ILL with me. He knew the theme song since he was 6 months old, however just recently while he and I laid in bed sick, we watched the marathon. He especially loved the episode where Lucy and Ricky do the benefit that Ethel wanted Ricky for. The part where Lucy is practicing her singing on the piano and just as she says "Ahhhh" and the doorbell rings... my son just bursted out laughing. He was practically choking from laughing so hard when she did that again. He enjoyed that scene so much that for the rest of the day he kept imitating Lucy and that part. It was so funny hearing him go higher and higher with the notes saying, "Ahhhh" and then he made that loud doorbell buzz. It was hilarious. Now, when he sees Lucy on the air, he always asks me if it is abt "Lucy going aaahhhh". I tell him no but he will watch it with me and laugh at the crazy other things she does.

I am not amazed that she has "channeled" my son. She did that to me at the age of 6. I can't think of any other show (other than cartoons or kid programs) that can grab the attention of a child, especially my son, the way she has. It goes beyond words how her simple show can grab you and pull you in to watch. KUDOS TO LUCY.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by NOVARick

Nice sentiments, Irene. And I love the story about your son watching that scene in "The Benefit." It is amazing how Lucille Ball's work can continue making us laugh, even at the worst times, and for so many years. I have probably been watching her since I was a baby because my mother had her show on every week. But I know I have been watching since age 3 or 4 because I have memories of watching at that age. That's over 40 years ago. And around age eleven, I became a huge fan and have been ever since. I've been a fan of many different artists through the years, but nobody's work has held my interest so consistently and strongly as hers.

Thank you Rick. I agree what you said abt being a fan of different artists. I have many shows that I am a fan of, but ILL is right at the top. No one can replace her from that pedestal that she has been on since I was little. I am glad to say I have passed on my love for Lucy to my kids and hopefully they will pass that on to their kids. My daughters may not be the fanatic that I am, they don't know the history nor the trivia that I know, but just knowing they can watch an episode and laugh is good enough for me.

My love for Lucy is known by many. Even my daughter's boyfriend bought me a gift of Lucy magnets out of the blue. He was out shopping and seen the magnets and he bought them for me. What was funny is that a week later my sister dropped by my house and she said she was shopping and she saw something "Lucy" and she had to buy it for me. What was it? THE SAME MAGNETS! So, I have two of the same magnets on my fridge. Cool.

[comedyfreak]

I just bought more Lucy magnets this weekend while I attended the Hollywood Collector's Show. I spent waaay tooo much. I also bought one Lucy and Desi Plaque which has their bdates and their deaths, the other is a frame of Lucy. When I was a senior in High School I was sick from Chicken Pocks and the only thing that cheered me up was watching Here's Lucy, so I know what ya mean.

[OH Nuts!]

Originally Posted by NOVARick

Interesting site: http://famous-relationships.topsyner.../Lucille_Ball/

Serious and responsible, she tries to carry the world on her shoulders and rarely let others know that she needs help and support. Lucille Ball denies or ignores her own emotional needs and feels that others will not accept her if she appears "weak". She is especially uncomfortable with emotional dependency, and will tell herself and others (even children) not to be a "baby". Lucille Ball needs to accept that no one is self-sufficient all the time, and to be gentler with her "childish" emotional needs and wants. To others, she may appear to be rather hard-nosed and tough, with a businesslike attitude toward their personal concerns and feelings. Actually, no one is a truer friend. Her feelings and loyalties run deep, but she often does not let people know how much she cares. Lucille Ball also needs to learn to relax, enjoy herself, and play sometimes.

Lucille Ball has a soft exterior and tends to relate very personally and sympathetically to other people. However, Lucille sometimes lets her emotions overpower her reasoning and logic, and consequently she is sometimes biased in her opinions. Lucille Ball is impressionable and rather gentle, or at least that is the way she appears. Her feelings are on the surface and Lucille cannot hide her emotions.

Generally sunny and optimistic, Lucille Ball has a cheering effect on those around her. Lucille likes and needs people, and others genuinely like her too. She enjoys a wide circle of friends who are like family to her. Entertaining, partying, social activities, and fellowship are essential ingredients for her emotional well-being.

Her relationships have an emotional overtone and Lucille Ball has a strong desire to share her feelings with others. Her circle of friends is likely to be large and Lucille enjoys many pleasant meeting with them.

She is quietly devoted and faithful to her loved ones, and often becomes a kind of servant to her love partner. Lucille Ball is more comfortable showing love for someone by doing something for them, making something for them, or simply being there for them - rather than telling them so in a romantic, soul-stirring sort of way. She is timid about expressing too much sentiment or emotion. Lucille Ball also underestimates her attractiveness and lovability and doubts her own worthiness to receive love and appreciation.

Lucille is attracted to foreigners, exotic places, traveling, and to people who can expand her horizons, teach her something, or show Ball places and worlds she has never experienced before. Sharing a philosophy or ideal with her love partner is important to her.

Also, Lucille Ball feels love and kinship for people everywhere, not only with her own family, nationality, or group. Finding similarities and making links between people from differing backgrounds or with different perspectives is a gift of hers.

Loyalty, fidelity, and security are very important to Lucille Ball in love relationships. She is cautious about giving her heart away but true to the one who does win her love. Her tastes are simple, even austere, and she does not appreciate frivolity. Ball is interested in a person's character and inner qualities far more than their appearance. Casual or superficial relationships do not interest Lucille Ball at all, for love seems to get deeper and richer and more satisfying for her with time.

When it comes to love relationships, Ball is apt to feel pulled in several directions at once. In addition to her desire for depth and for security in her relationships, Lucille Ball has an impulsive side and need a lot of variety and excitement, as discussed in the following paragraphs. These urges do not have to conflict, but they certainly can, especially if Lucille acts on her spontaneous impulses without much consideration for their long-term effects on her personal life.

She is open and progressive in her attitudes towards love relationships and romance, and spontaneous and free in her love-expression. Lucille Ball is always willing to experiment and try anything new that Ball's partner suggests, and she enjoys being surprised. Relationship in which both Lucille and her partner have a good deal of freedom and independence will hold Ball's interest much more than safe, predictable ones.

Lucille Ball has a rich, colorful, dreamy imagination and a refined sense of beauty. Involvement in the arts, or with artistic, sensitive, or spiritually inclined people is very satisfying to her. In her friendships and romantic relationships, Ball tends to be unselfish, giving, and forgiving. Lucille Ball might enjoy joining with others for charitable events or social service.

Lucille Ball experiences powerful, compelling emotional and sexual attractions, and she may feel that she has little choice or control over her desires. Lucille has an intense need for love and may be emotionally greedy or insatiable. Her love relationships are passionate and often tumultuous and painful as well. Jealousy, power struggles, or possessiveness can become areas of conflict in her relationships. Positively, Lucille Ball can be unusually creative and bring about beneficial and healing changes in the lives of others, motivated by her deeply felt love.

Her strong enthusiasm for life affects everyone around her. Lucille Ball has a sense of well-being, a harmonious sex-life and she is likely to enjoy healthy and affectionate love relationships. Lucille Ball also has a lot of creative ideas and could do well with some kind of craft projects.

Her romantic relationships are inclined to be rather stressed. Lucille Ball longs for new experiences on one hand, but feels restricted or thwarted by circumstances on the other. Ball tends to fight against limitations and may frequently be irritated by the conduct of others.

Absolutely ditto Irene's post. Lucille Ball was an amazing woman. Often people saw the wrong side of her. She may have been tough but she was also very caring. Reminds me of Viv Vance's quote when she first met Lucy & said "I'm going to learn to love that bitch". They ended up close and lifelong friends. In the final analysis, Lucille Ball was an upright and deeply caring person; if she sometimes came off like a tough cookie it's because she had to fight for many of the good things that happened to her. She EARNED them. She pioneered early TV, deftly navigating a new and scary medium, set the gold standard for physical comedy, took a courageous stance by insisting Desi play her husband and not backing down. Think of all the mixed marriage couples that came down the pike in later yrs--Lucy set the stage. And of course there's her amazing business acumen. She grew Desilu several times over and much of this had to do with her knowledge of people. Absolutely and unequivacobly one of my very favorite TV celebrities--for many different and compelling reasons.

[comedyfreak]

Originally Posted by rich p

Absolutely ditto Irene's post. Lucille Ball was an amazing woman. Often people saw the wrong side of her. She may have been tough but she was also very caring. Reminds me of Viv Vance's quote when she first met Lucy & said "I'm going to learn to love that bitch". They ended up close and lifelong friends. In the final analysis, Lucille Ball was an upright and deeply caring person; if she sometimes came off like a tough cookie it's because she had to fight for many of the good things that happened to her. She EARNED them. She pioneered early TV, deftly navigating a new and scary medium, set the gold standard for physical comedy, took a courageous stance by insisting Desi play her husband and not backing down. Think of all the mixed marriage couples that came down the pike in later yrs--Lucy set the stage. And of course there's her amazing business acumen. She grew Desilu several times over and much of this had to do with her knowledge of people. Absolutely and unequivacobly one of my very favorite TV celebrities--for many different and compelling reasons.

Ditto to your post as well, couldn't have said it any better. She was also my favorite of all time. I got to see Vivian's star, but couldn't find any of the others. I took a pic of her estate and Jack Benny's since he lived right next door.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by rich p

Absolutely ditto Irene's post. Lucille Ball was an amazing woman. Often people saw the wrong side of her. She may have been tough but she was also very caring. Reminds me of Viv Vance's quote when she first met Lucy & said "I'm going to learn to love that bitch". They ended up close and lifelong friends. In the final analysis, Lucille Ball was an upright and deeply caring person; if she sometimes came off like a tough cookie it's because she had to fight for many of the good things that happened to her. She EARNED them. She pioneered early TV, deftly navigating a new and scary medium, set the gold standard for physical comedy, took a courageous stance by insisting Desi play her husband and not backing down. Think of all the mixed marriage couples that came down the pike in later yrs--Lucy set the stage. And of course there's her amazing business acumen. She grew Desilu several times over and much of this had to do with her knowledge of people. Absolutely and unequivacobly one of my very favorite TV celebrities--for many different and compelling reasons.

So eloquently put Rich. I agree with all you said. There are not enough words to describe what Lucy did for the world of television.

[NOVARick]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Thank you Rick. I agree what you said abt being a fan of different artists. I have many shows that I am a fan of, but ILL is right at the top. No one can replace her from that pedestal that she has been on since I was little. I am glad to say I have passed on my love for Lucy to my kids and hopefully they will pass that on to their kids. My daughters may not be the fanatic that I am, they don't know the history nor the trivia that I know, but just knowing they can watch an episode and laugh is good enough for me.

Irene, after reading about your kids watching Lucy, I saw this photo and it made me think of yours.

[OH Nuts!]

What can I say, when it comes to talking about Lucy, I gush and wax poetic!

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by NOVARick

Irene, after reading about your kids watching Lucy, I saw this photo and it made me think of yours.

Awwwww, that is a cute pic!!!!!!! Thanks for thinking of me. I got to take a pic of my son holding one of my DVD sets and post it here. Better yet, I will have him make that face that Lucy did in the Benefit...AHHHHHHHH

How adorable that child looks.

[NOVARick]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Awwwww, that is a cute pic!!!!!!! Thanks for thinking of me. I got to take a pic of my son holding one of my DVD sets and post it here. Better yet, I will have him make that face that Lucy did in the Benefit...AHHHHHHHH

How adorable that child looks.

Yeah, see if you can do that. We'd love to see it. AHHHHH!

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by NOVARick

Yeah, see if you can do that. We'd love to see it. AHHHHH!

I will do that today. Hopefully he won't mind.

[NOVARick]

Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I will do that today. Hopefully he won't mind.

Did you succeed?

[SPLAIN]

Yeah, cute kid, LOL! Wow, that opener was amazing, couldn't have said it better myself, however i'd like to add a little footnote. Haven't been here in a while, i'm not sure how i feel about this new set up and layout, but reading this great thread i felt the urge to add something. I've been her biggest fan for over 50 years and i've pretty much read everything about her over the decades and the ONE negative we always see is her abruptness with people. Lately i've noticed a backtrack on this point. Never mind what i've always said, that it was the fifties and men could not stand this uppety woman telling them what to do in a fashion they just could not tolerate. Add to that the memory lapses that happen when it's 50 years later and the fact that they want to be quoted in Lucy books, so they make their tales sound more interesting by stretching the truth here and there. Now lately, i keep reading about other people who were there telling the same stories differently. Whether it's Irma saying that this one got the story wrong, or she didn't really slap Hal on the set of Mame or she wasn't at all cheap with Danny Kaye, of all people, it was her own daughter defending her on that one, or her NOT being rude to Benny, believe it or not, Lucie defending mom again, so out of character, LOL! It seems that yes, Lucy was very businesslike and a hard working no nonsense kind of gal on the set, no better or worse than Betty Davis or Katie Hepburn on theirs, these OLD STOCK New Englanders were the same in that department. But there are five stories of her kindness for every one of her being too curt or short with people, and we all know that the nastier stories read and sell better, LOL!