Principle of The Thing/Please Leave The Premises

[Frank Gannucci]

I read in The Honeymooners Companion Book and/or on the now-defunct Honeymooners.net Message Baordthat in '54, there was a lost epiosde (that apparently has not been seen since it's origianly airdate) that is sort of a combo between Principle of The Thing/Please Leave The Premises. This si what the book says:

"December 18, 1954: Ralph refuses to pay a rent increase and the landlord evicts him."

Now in John K.'s book entitled "To The Moon", he doesn't have any information on this episode.

Was this episode really filmed?

Now, I know there was some mistakes in the Honeymooners Companion Book. I also know that it was written 29 years ago whereas To The Moon was written five years ago. Since the latter book was written recently, I have a tendancy to believe that this episode may have not been filmed.

[W.B.]

Originally Posted by Frank Gannucci

I read in The Honeymooners Companion Book and/or on the now-defunct Honeymooners.net Message Baordthat in '54, there was a lost epiosde (that apparently has not been seen since it's origianly airdate) that is sort of a combo between Principle of The Thing/Please Leave The Premises. This si what the book says:

"December 18, 1954: Ralph refuses to pay a rent increase and the landlord evicts him."

Now in John K.'s book entitled "To The Moon", he doesn't have any information on this episode.

Was this episode really filmed?

Now, I know there was some mistakes in the Honeymooners Companion Book. I also know that it was written 29 years ago whereas To The Moon was written five years ago. Since the latter book was written recently, I have a tendancy to believe that this episode may have not been filmed.

Mistakes?! That's an understatement . . . one of the zingers in the book was the claim that Gleason moved his show to Miami in 1962. 1) The first two years of The American Scene Magazine originated in New York (as elsehwere on this board, they had a different layout for the "cover" shown in front of the stage than after the move - that, and Johnny Olson's "From New York City, The Entertainment Capital of the World" opening), and 2) When Gleason did move, in 1964, it was to Miami Beach. I brought this up to the author at a convention across the street from Madison Square Garden in the mid-1980's, that Gleason's ASM was actually in New York from 1962 to '64 - and she stood by her assertion about where it was supposedly "based" for its entire run (in other words, essentially "don't bother me with facts, my mind is made up").

But another factor in how the earlier book got muddled up in the facts department could be in the fact that at the time it was written and published, interest in The Honeymooners was at an absolute low ebb, with some stations dropping the show altogether (from 1978 to 1982, for example, WPIX in New York didn't even air the show at all), thus there seemed to be not much incentive to double-check for such info. As well as the Lost Episodes still being locked up in Jackie's vault at the time . . .