Kari Lynn Nixon at NKOTB concert - was there an update to the update? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

justins5256 · 09-30-2007, 05:06 PM

I'm sure most of you have seen the "update" which showed a videotape of a New Kids on the Block concert in which it was believed that Kari Lynn Nixon can be spotted in the audience. Of course, we now know that the girl in the audience could not have possibly been Kari Lynn Nixon since Robert Jones confessed to her murder in 1994 and led police to her buried remains. A few questions though...

Did this update make it to Lifetime? It's obvious that it wouldn't have been shown in recent years, but consider this: Lifetime began showing reruns of UM in 1992 sometime. Jones confessed in January of 1994. So, for a period of time (probably a little over a year), Nixon's fate was still a mystery when Lifetime began showing UM. Which leads to my second question...

Did anyone ever come forward to identify the girl in the video?

Finally - and this may be a good candidate for a "WTF moment" - but who "found" her in the audience anyway? Were her parents New Kids fans? Did some New Kids fans who happened to also be UM fans "find" her?

very curious...

one more question...does anyone recall what concert video this was? I'm not a New Kids fan by any stretch but it might be interesting to find this video for the "collection".

DarkDante · 09-30-2007, 05:34 PM

Well I can answer your first question for you. Unless the update aired independently on "Lifetime" from the original segment (which is a possibility since thats the way it aired on NBC) it WAS NOT broadcasted ever on Lifetime. I am 100% sure of that because the Keri Lynn Nixon segment I first saw on Lifetime in 1992 and it scared the crap out of me and there was no update at that time. I had forgotten about the writer from Flint, Michigan who sent the letters to the UM people but when I saw the original broadcast again a few years ago via a tape trade I remembered seeing that on Lifetime back in the early 90s.

So here is what happened - once Nixon was found they obviously cut the update about Robert Anthony Jones into the original segment (Stack is neither in the same room nor in the same dress so its a rather obvious edit) and then the original update about the letter writer in Flint, Michigan was never seen again. The "odd segment out" here is the NKOTB update which I don't believe ever was attached to the original segment on Lifetime.

As for the song title - I'm not a New Kids fan either but judging by the lyrics and the type of songs these bands write I wouldn't be surprised if it was called "My Favorite Girl"...crystaldawn might know more, she was a totally stoned gone NKOTB fan back in the early 90s.

justins5256 · 09-30-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

Well I can answer your first question for you. Unless the update aired independently on "Lifetime" from the original segment (which is a possibility since thats the way it aired on NBC) it WAS NOT broadcasted ever on Lifetime.

Old age may be creeping up on me but I really want to say this mis-identification was cleared up before UM was syndicated on Lifetime. So, either the girl came forward, or someone recognized her, and I thought I remembered a report to that effect (hence the question) but it could just be a false memory.

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I had forgotten about the writer from Flint, Michigan who sent the letters to the UM people but when I saw the original broadcast again a few years ago via a tape trade I remembered seeing that on Lifetime back in the early 90s.

Yeah, that was strange. I wonder if Jones could have written those letters to throw off the authorities. Of course, it could have just been a "kook" (probably more likely).

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

So here is what happened - once Nixon was found they obviously cut the update about Robert Anthony Jones into the original segment (Stack is neither in the same room nor in the same dress so its a rather obvious edit)

Really? I thought the update was just an RS voice over with a long freeze frame on Jones' mugshot. Again, I may be mis-remembering.

DarkDante · 09-30-2007, 06:23 PM

I don't think anything was changed on this segment on Lifetime until Nixon's remains were found. It might have been but there was no "alternate update" where they clipped that Flint, Michigan thing before Nixon was found. After Nixon was found that was gone. In the update about Robert Anthony Jones Stack can been seen standing in what looks like a study of some sort while in the original segment he's in the dark hall that was used for many segments including Kathy Hobbs and the Gail DeLano update.

Whomever wrote those letters obviously put some time into them. I mean yeah a prank is one thing but to do it twice and handwriting experts confirmed it was the same author...I dunno someone was certainly fixated on this case.

justins5256 · 09-30-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

I don't think anything was changed on this segment on Lifetime until Nixon's remains were found. It might have been but there was no "alternate update" where they clipped that Flint, Michigan thing before Nixon was found. After Nixon was found that was gone.

Oh yeah, I agree with that. I doubt they changed anything on Lifetime until after she was found. I was just wondering if perhaps there was an update in the NBC days saying that the girl in the NKOTB video had been positively identified as someone other than Nixon.

If the NKOTB bit never made it to Lifetime at all, than I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that this mis-identification issue was cleared before Lifetime acquired the series, yet before Jones confessed and Nixon's remains found.

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

Whomever wrote those letters obviously put some time into them. I mean yeah a prank is one thing but to do it twice and handwriting experts confirmed it was the same author...I dunno someone was certainly fixated on this case.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a letter sent to UM before the story was broadcast? If so, whoever wrote them must have known UM was going to profile the case in the near future. I'm not sure how UM was with public relations back then, but this is weird that someone had this knowledge in advance.

On the other hand, the Circleville Writer knew before the broadcast that UM was doing a story on him/her, so who knows.

UMfan77 · 10-01-2007, 11:03 AM

As for the name of the NKOTB video...it's called "Hangin' Tough". I was a HUGE New Kids fan during that time and I used to have this video, I watched that video over & over again. Looking back on it, I remember seeing that girl with the hat in the video.

I'm not sure how Keri's parents came across this video, maybe a relative or friend of theirs owned the video and brought it to their attention. Or maybe the Keri's parents have other daughters & they happened to be New Kids fans. That's my guess.

justins5256 · 10-01-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UMfan77

As for the name of the NKOTB video...it's called "Hangin' Tough". I was a HUGE New Kids fan during that time and I used to have this video, I watched that video over & over again. Looking back on it, I remember seeing that girl with the hat in the video.

Thanks.

It even has an IMDB entry...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192105/

UMfan77 · 10-01-2007, 12:06 PM

Yes, that was a very popular video at the time.

James T · 10-01-2007, 12:41 PM

It does seem in a lot of these cases that the most unlikely sightings get taken highly seriously and hopes get built up beyond what they should- with the family and witnesses saying for sure it is that person, but imagine having to keep watching New Kids over and over just to try to see a face- certainly one for the mute button.

crystaldawn · 10-29-2007, 03:19 PM

I was wondering after recently watching this update...do you think the girl in the NKOTB video could be the same one that was seen in Eutawville and the same one that woman swears she had seen at the campground? That would be a logical reason why all those people, nowhere near where Keri came from, claimed to have seen her. The older lady seemed pretty credible to me and I'm sure girls from all over the US could have been at that concert. Just a thought...what does everyone else think?

ididn'tdoit · 10-29-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

I was wondering after recently watching this update...do you think the girl in the NKOTB video could be the same one that was seen in Eutawville and the same one that woman swears she had seen at the campground? That would be a logical reason why all those people, nowhere near where Keri came from, claimed to have seen her. The older lady seemed pretty credible to me and I'm sure girls from all over the US could have been at that concert. Just a thought...what does everyone else think?

Well, after reading Sheila Kimmell's book and watching the Lil miss segment, Gail Delano and many others, I've realized eyewitness reports are not as reliable as you would hope

.

I think that South Carolina woman really wanted to believe she had seen Keri, so she made up her mind - she HAD seen her! I think that's quite common and very human to act that way. For example, look at the Tara Calico segment, Michael Henley's mother wanted so desperatly for that boy on the photo to be her son to the point she actually convinced herself it was him, but now we all know she was wrong.

kadrmas15 · 10-29-2007, 05:37 PM

Werent those letters that anonymous writer in Flint, Michigan were sending very cryptic? I remember reading somewhere that someone said the letters were creepy but I dont know how they would know that. It does seem creepy though some anonymous person would send three different letters to UM about this case.

Well, I think the woman did seem credible, I think she did genuinely believe she saw Kari, but she didnt of course. Somehow these kids found out about Kari being missing and decided to pull a prank and then when the cops went asking around suddenly the 12 year old girl that was with "Kari" develops a "memory lapse" and cant recall the incident.

I think the 12 year old girl and a friend of hers were pulling a prank there in South Carolina and didnt think it would get that big. That also tells me the person in Flint was either in South Carolina when this was all going on or knew the people in South Carolina or something.

Todd Mueller · 10-29-2007, 09:28 PM

If I remember right, didn't the lady at the campground say the girl said her name was "Kari Lynn Nixon"? If that's true, the lady is either a REALLY bad witness or it was a prank.

I may be recalling that wrong, but I swore the girl said that was her name to the witness.

And I agree: Eyewitness accounts are far from accurate many times. Hard to know if people see what they think/want to see, or if they are just making it up to sound important.

Edit: "Counts" fixed to "accounts."

wiseguy182 · 10-29-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Mueller

If I remember right, didn't the lady at the campground say the girl said her name was "Kari Lynn Nixon"? If that's true, the lady is either a REALLY bad witness or it was a prank.

I may be recalling that wrong, but I swore the girl said that was her name to the witness.

And I agree: Eyewitness counts are far from accurate many times. Hard to know if people see what they think/want to see, or if they are just making it up to sound important.

I agree. The other possibility they were mulling around (besides foul play) was willful disappearance, so I doubt Keri (Kari?) would have voluntarily mentioned her name like that. It could have been traced.

Matt C · 07-01-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDante

So here is what happened - once Nixon was found they obviously cut the update about Robert Anthony Jones into the original segment (Stack is neither in the same room nor in the same dress so its a rather obvious edit) and then the original update about the letter writer in Flint, Michigan was never seen again. The "odd segment out" here is the NKOTB update which I don't believe ever was attached to the original segment on Lifetime.

Is the Stack update about Robert Anthony Jones still around? The only update I saw was a text update.

09-30-2007, 05:06 PM	#1
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Kari Lynn Nixon at NKOTB concert - was there an update to the update? I'm sure most of you have seen the "update" which showed a videotape of a New Kids on the Block concert in which it was believed that Kari Lynn Nixon can be spotted in the audience. Of course, we now know that the girl in the audience could not have possibly been Kari Lynn Nixon since Robert Jones confessed to her murder in 1994 and led police to her buried remains. A few questions though... Did this update make it to Lifetime? It's obvious that it wouldn't have been shown in recent years, but consider this: Lifetime began showing reruns of UM in 1992 sometime. Jones confessed in January of 1994. So, for a period of time (probably a little over a year), Nixon's fate was still a mystery when Lifetime began showing UM. Which leads to my second question... Did anyone ever come forward to identify the girl in the video? Finally - and this may be a good candidate for a "WTF moment" - but who "found" her in the audience anyway? Were her parents New Kids fans? Did some New Kids fans who happened to also be UM fans "find" her? very curious... one more question...does anyone recall what concert video this was? I'm not a New Kids fan by any stretch but it might be interesting to find this video for the "collection".

10-29-2007, 03:19 PM	#10
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I was wondering after recently watching this update...do you think the girl in the NKOTB video could be the same one that was seen in Eutawville and the same one that woman swears she had seen at the campground? That would be a logical reason why all those people, nowhere near where Keri came from, claimed to have seen her. The older lady seemed pretty credible to me and I'm sure girls from all over the US could have been at that concert. Just a thought...what does everyone else think?
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10-29-2007, 09:28 PM	#13
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	If I remember right, didn't the lady at the campground say the girl said her name was "Kari Lynn Nixon"? If that's true, the lady is either a REALLY bad witness or it was a prank. I may be recalling that wrong, but I swore the girl said that was her name to the witness. And I agree: Eyewitness accounts are far from accurate many times. Hard to know if people see what they think/want to see, or if they are just making it up to sound important. Edit: "Counts" fixed to "accounts."
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09-30-2007, 05:34 PM	#2
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Well I can answer your first question for you. Unless the update aired independently on "Lifetime" from the original segment (which is a possibility since thats the way it aired on NBC) it WAS NOT broadcasted ever on Lifetime. I am 100% sure of that because the Keri Lynn Nixon segment I first saw on Lifetime in 1992 and it scared the crap out of me and there was no update at that time. I had forgotten about the writer from Flint, Michigan who sent the letters to the UM people but when I saw the original broadcast again a few years ago via a tape trade I remembered seeing that on Lifetime back in the early 90s. So here is what happened - once Nixon was found they obviously cut the update about Robert Anthony Jones into the original segment (Stack is neither in the same room nor in the same dress so its a rather obvious edit) and then the original update about the letter writer in Flint, Michigan was never seen again. The "odd segment out" here is the NKOTB update which I don't believe ever was attached to the original segment on Lifetime. As for the song title - I'm not a New Kids fan either but judging by the lyrics and the type of songs these bands write I wouldn't be surprised if it was called "My Favorite Girl"...crystaldawn might know more, she was a totally stoned gone NKOTB fan back in the early 90s.

09-30-2007, 06:23 PM	#4
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	I don't think anything was changed on this segment on Lifetime until Nixon's remains were found. It might have been but there was no "alternate update" where they clipped that Flint, Michigan thing before Nixon was found. After Nixon was found that was gone. In the update about Robert Anthony Jones Stack can been seen standing in what looks like a study of some sort while in the original segment he's in the dark hall that was used for many segments including Kathy Hobbs and the Gail DeLano update. Whomever wrote those letters obviously put some time into them. I mean yeah a prank is one thing but to do it twice and handwriting experts confirmed it was the same author...I dunno someone was certainly fixated on this case.

10-01-2007, 11:03 AM	#6
UMfan77 Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 28, 2003 Posts: 1,064	As for the name of the NKOTB video...it's called "Hangin' Tough". I was a HUGE New Kids fan during that time and I used to have this video, I watched that video over & over again. Looking back on it, I remember seeing that girl with the hat in the video. I'm not sure how Keri's parents came across this video, maybe a relative or friend of theirs owned the video and brought it to their attention. Or maybe the Keri's parents have other daughters & they happened to be New Kids fans. That's my guess.

10-01-2007, 12:06 PM	#8
UMfan77 Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 28, 2003 Posts: 1,064	Yes, that was a very popular video at the time.

10-01-2007, 12:41 PM	#9
James T Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2006 Location: England Posts: 1,571	It does seem in a lot of these cases that the most unlikely sightings get taken highly seriously and hopes get built up beyond what they should- with the family and witnesses saying for sure it is that person, but imagine having to keep watching New Kids over and over just to try to see a face- certainly one for the mute button.

10-29-2007, 05:37 PM	#12
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Werent those letters that anonymous writer in Flint, Michigan were sending very cryptic? I remember reading somewhere that someone said the letters were creepy but I dont know how they would know that. It does seem creepy though some anonymous person would send three different letters to UM about this case. Well, I think the woman did seem credible, I think she did genuinely believe she saw Kari, but she didnt of course. Somehow these kids found out about Kari being missing and decided to pull a prank and then when the cops went asking around suddenly the 12 year old girl that was with "Kari" develops a "memory lapse" and cant recall the incident. I think the 12 year old girl and a friend of hers were pulling a prank there in South Carolina and didnt think it would get that big. That also tells me the person in Flint was either in South Carolina when this was all going on or knew the people in South Carolina or something.