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kamy · 09-28-2007, 02:25 PM

I was just curious, what everyone's opinion was on the following missing person cases. I put my opinions to the side. Do you think simply, dead or alive? Feel free to add any others...

1. Anthonette Cayedito (dead)
2. Gordon Page, JR. (more than likely dead)
3. Kristi Krebs (dead)
4. Angela Hammond (dead)
5. Michael Hughes (alive, maybe Floyd pawned him off on someone before he was incarcerated)
6. Tammy Lynn Leppert (dead)
7. Sneha Phillips (alive, I still think she snuck off)
8. Nyleen Kay Marshall (dead)
9. Patricia Meehan (dead)
10. Amber Swartz (dead)
11. George Owens (wandered off and died)
12. Amy Billig (dead, more than likely soon after she disappeared)
13. Adam Emery (alive, living the high life somewhere)

Hmm, that's all i can think of now...what do you think?

Todd Mueller · 09-28-2007, 04:30 PM

Interesting post, Kamy. I agree with most of them but I differ on #2 and 12.

I think Gordon Page Jr. is alive, but probably living in a homeless shelter or somewhere where they can't determine who he really is. That case breaks my heart for the poor family.

I think Amy Billig is dead, but was alive most of the time. There is so much evidence to say she was alive for a long time before succombing to the cult/gang.

And I will add one:

14. Adam Hecht (dead)

phillipscurve · 09-28-2007, 04:46 PM

15. Tara Calico (dead).

kamy · 09-28-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by phillipscurve

15. Tara Calico (dead).

Ahh yes, I forgot her! I vote dead too.

ididn'tdoit · 09-28-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kamy

5. Michael Hughes (alive, maybe Floyd pawned him off on someone before he was incarcerated)

Floyd stated that he had actually drowned Michael in the bathtuh, which he later denied.

There's no way Michael could still be alive

kamy · 09-28-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ididn'tdoit

Floyd stated that he had actually drowned Michael in the bathtuh, which he later denied.

There's no way Michael could still be alive

Yeah, the more I read the more I'm convinced that he's dead. What a shame!!!!! he's the only one who knows the truth and he's not talking!

wiseguy182 · 09-28-2007, 06:22 PM

all of them dead. possible exception for Adam Emery, but that man boils my blood so much I can barely bring myself to talk about him, or his family.

sorry to sound so pessimistic, but I think too many years have gone by and too many mysterious circumstances surrrounding these disapperances for me to believe they're not dead. I hope I'm wrong though.

who is Amber Swarz? perhaps I should know that, but it's not ringing any bells right now.

crystaldawn · 09-28-2007, 10:05 PM

I think the majority of them have died but I think there's at least a chance the following might still be alive:

Anthonette Cayedito
Kristi Krebs
Gordon Page Jr.
Patricia Meehan
Nyleen Kay Marshall

Just remember the case of Patricia Carlton. Had some mental issues and memory problems after her surgery and wandered off and most of us would have probably guessed she had died but thankfully was found alive and well 35 years later.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 09-29-2007, 03:45 AM

Another intruging one would be Mike Reimer? I bet that turd is still breathing out there somewhere.

ididn'tdoit · 09-29-2007, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

I think the majority of them have died but I think there's at least a chance the following might still be alive:

Anthonette Cayedito
Kristi Krebs
Gordon Page Jr.
Patricia Meehan
Nyleen Kay Marshall

I basically agree with you on all of these, CD. But I do feel there's a strong possibility Anthonette was killed after she made that haunting phone call.

crystaldawn · 09-29-2007, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ididn'tdoit

I basically agree with you on all of these, CD. But I do feel there's a strong possibility Anthonette was killed after she made that haunting phone call.

Good point. By a chance of her still being alive I was thinking of the seemingly credible sighting of her at that restaurant but yes its certainly possible her captors killed her after that call. Sad.

LooksLikeCRicci · 09-30-2007, 03:04 AM

I think they're all dead, unfortunately. As much as I'd like to believe Patricia Meehan and Nyleen Kay Marshall (Montana girls--woo!) are still alive, I believe Nyleen was murdered shortly after she disappeared and that Patricia probably WAS seen wandering around, but died thereafter. I'm CONVINCED she's an unidentified Jane Doe somewhere (but obviously not Montana, as I'm pretty sure ANY unidentified woman would be matched against Meehan's statistics--people still talk about her on occasion.)

As for Adam Emery, I'm pretty sure he's dead, too. I used to say that I thought he was alive, but I think he would have popped up by now SOMEWHERE...unless his family sent him overseas. But that wouldn't explain why his wife turned up dead. Because she is dead, I believe that Adam jumped with her.

I have one, though:

16. Bobby and Kristi Baskin (alive)

Gangreen · 09-30-2007, 11:33 PM

Im pretty sure that michael hughes is dead. That wasnt the first child abducted by lloyd.

kadrmas15 · 10-01-2007, 03:28 AM

Well, in my opinion Mike Reimer is probably still alive or at least was alive for many years. I just do not buy the theory that an unknown third party was killing people yet would for some unknown reason hide Mike's body. The tubesock was a clear signal the killings were done by the same person. There was evidence that in my opinion showed that Reimer was a serial killer.

I guess it is possible Reimer could be dead, but I doubt it. Although there were a lot of serial killers on the lose in Washington State in 1985, Robert Yates, Gary Ridgeway, Charles Sinclair to name a few. I have always wondered whether or not the person that murdered Diana and that other couple also murdered Jay and Tanya and Michael and Rochelle.

As for Adam Emery, I am not sure if he is alive or not. I think there is a better chance he is dead, but his body has never been found so it certainly is possible that he is alive. I guess judging from the kind of person he seemed to be, it wouldnt surprise me if he made a suicide pact with his wife, she jumped and he didnt and just walked away, it wouldnt surprise me if he did that. I mean afterall, this was a guy who stabbed and killed a kid because he thought he ran into his car, except it turned out that it wasnt the car that had hit him and Emery refused to take responsibility for it.

However it is because of what people like Emery have done that bail is almost always revoked once a person is convicted of murder. Some states have made it law that you cant have bond once you have been convicted of murder, however in Emery's case, since he was convicted of murder 2 and not of murder 1 that is probably why he was allowed to remain free until sentencing, but I guess he knew since he was facing a sentence of 20 years to life he had a lot of motive to either go on the run or kill himself.

justins5256 · 10-01-2007, 12:06 PM

Interesting topic. I would imagine a lot (most?) of the "missing persons" featured on UM are dead.

I'm pretty sure Michaela Garrecht is dead.

The nature of the disappearance and the fact that so much time has passed without so much as a sighting of her makes it seem unlikely that she would still be alive all these years later.

How about Lisa Bishop? No sightings of her after she vanished, but tons of sightings of "Florian" in the years after Lisa disappeared.

Dottie Caylor and Christi Nichols - probably murdered by their husbands. I'm not aware of any sightings of them after their initial disappearances.

Cindy Anderson - again, I think too much time has passed for her to still be alive.

Judy Himes - probably dead even though some say she is alive and living in Omaha...

How about Charles Horvath? That's a case I could see going either way.

09-28-2007, 02:25 PM	#1
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	Dead or Alive? I was just curious, what everyone's opinion was on the following missing person cases. I put my opinions to the side. Do you think simply, dead or alive? Feel free to add any others... 1. Anthonette Cayedito (dead) 2. Gordon Page, JR. (more than likely dead) 3. Kristi Krebs (dead) 4. Angela Hammond (dead) 5. Michael Hughes (alive, maybe Floyd pawned him off on someone before he was incarcerated) 6. Tammy Lynn Leppert (dead) 7. Sneha Phillips (alive, I still think she snuck off) 8. Nyleen Kay Marshall (dead) 9. Patricia Meehan (dead) 10. Amber Swartz (dead) 11. George Owens (wandered off and died) 12. Amy Billig (dead, more than likely soon after she disappeared) 13. Adam Emery (alive, living the high life somewhere) Hmm, that's all i can think of now...what do you think?

09-28-2007, 04:46 PM	#3
phillipscurve Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 18, 2007 Location: planet earth Posts: 71	15. Tara Calico (dead).
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09-28-2007, 06:22 PM	#7
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	all of them dead. possible exception for Adam Emery, but that man boils my blood so much I can barely bring myself to talk about him, or his family. sorry to sound so pessimistic, but I think too many years have gone by and too many mysterious circumstances surrrounding these disapperances for me to believe they're not dead. I hope I'm wrong though. who is Amber Swarz? perhaps I should know that, but it's not ringing any bells right now.
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09-28-2007, 04:30 PM	#2
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	Interesting post, Kamy. I agree with most of them but I differ on #2 and 12. I think Gordon Page Jr. is alive, but probably living in a homeless shelter or somewhere where they can't determine who he really is. That case breaks my heart for the poor family. I think Amy Billig is dead, but was alive most of the time. There is so much evidence to say she was alive for a long time before succombing to the cult/gang. And I will add one: 14. Adam Hecht (dead)

09-28-2007, 10:05 PM	#8
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I think the majority of them have died but I think there's at least a chance the following might still be alive: Anthonette Cayedito Kristi Krebs Gordon Page Jr. Patricia Meehan Nyleen Kay Marshall Just remember the case of Patricia Carlton. Had some mental issues and memory problems after her surgery and wandered off and most of us would have probably guessed she had died but thankfully was found alive and well 35 years later.

09-29-2007, 03:45 AM	#9
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	Another intruging one would be Mike Reimer? I bet that turd is still breathing out there somewhere.

09-30-2007, 03:04 AM	#12
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	I think they're all dead, unfortunately. As much as I'd like to believe Patricia Meehan and Nyleen Kay Marshall (Montana girls--woo!) are still alive, I believe Nyleen was murdered shortly after she disappeared and that Patricia probably WAS seen wandering around, but died thereafter. I'm CONVINCED she's an unidentified Jane Doe somewhere (but obviously not Montana, as I'm pretty sure ANY unidentified woman would be matched against Meehan's statistics--people still talk about her on occasion.) As for Adam Emery, I'm pretty sure he's dead, too. I used to say that I thought he was alive, but I think he would have popped up by now SOMEWHERE...unless his family sent him overseas. But that wouldn't explain why his wife turned up dead. Because she is dead, I believe that Adam jumped with her. I have one, though: 16. Bobby and Kristi Baskin (alive)

09-30-2007, 11:33 PM	#13
Gangreen Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 09, 2005 Posts: 65	Im pretty sure that michael hughes is dead. That wasnt the first child abducted by lloyd.

10-01-2007, 03:28 AM	#14
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, in my opinion Mike Reimer is probably still alive or at least was alive for many years. I just do not buy the theory that an unknown third party was killing people yet would for some unknown reason hide Mike's body. The tubesock was a clear signal the killings were done by the same person. There was evidence that in my opinion showed that Reimer was a serial killer. I guess it is possible Reimer could be dead, but I doubt it. Although there were a lot of serial killers on the lose in Washington State in 1985, Robert Yates, Gary Ridgeway, Charles Sinclair to name a few. I have always wondered whether or not the person that murdered Diana and that other couple also murdered Jay and Tanya and Michael and Rochelle. As for Adam Emery, I am not sure if he is alive or not. I think there is a better chance he is dead, but his body has never been found so it certainly is possible that he is alive. I guess judging from the kind of person he seemed to be, it wouldnt surprise me if he made a suicide pact with his wife, she jumped and he didnt and just walked away, it wouldnt surprise me if he did that. I mean afterall, this was a guy who stabbed and killed a kid because he thought he ran into his car, except it turned out that it wasnt the car that had hit him and Emery refused to take responsibility for it. However it is because of what people like Emery have done that bail is almost always revoked once a person is convicted of murder. Some states have made it law that you cant have bond once you have been convicted of murder, however in Emery's case, since he was convicted of murder 2 and not of murder 1 that is probably why he was allowed to remain free until sentencing, but I guess he knew since he was facing a sentence of 20 years to life he had a lot of motive to either go on the run or kill himself.

10-01-2007, 12:06 PM	#15
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Interesting topic. I would imagine a lot (most?) of the "missing persons" featured on UM are dead. I'm pretty sure Michaela Garrecht is dead. The nature of the disappearance and the fact that so much time has passed without so much as a sighting of her makes it seem unlikely that she would still be alive all these years later. How about Lisa Bishop? No sightings of her after she vanished, but tons of sightings of "Florian" in the years after Lisa disappeared. Dottie Caylor and Christi Nichols - probably murdered by their husbands. I'm not aware of any sightings of them after their initial disappearances. Cindy Anderson - again, I think too much time has passed for her to still be alive. Judy Himes - probably dead even though some say she is alive and living in Omaha... How about Charles Horvath? That's a case I could see going either way.