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wiseguy182 · 09-26-2007, 04:34 PM

who else thinks Michael Haim is GUILTY!!!

UMfan0682 · 09-26-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

who else thinks Michael Haim is GUILTY!!!

Yes, I found it a little odd when Bonnie's car was found at the airport the seat was pushed way back. I know when I get into my car, if the seat is back I always adjust it to where I like to drive. The shoeprint really could sway me either way. Michael could have been in the car before her dissapperance, but I'm not so sure. From the UM segment, it looked like sand in the car floor. I wonder if they tested this material and found out where it could have came from?

kadrmas15 · 09-26-2007, 08:55 PM

You know, what I found odd, was how Bonnie's dad was seemingly on Mike's side and how Mike's aunt thought that he had murdered Bonnie. Mike seems like one of these wife beaters where it is always his wife's fault when he abuses her. I only base this opinion on the re-enactment in the segment but some of it was based on what Mike did in front of several people.

It is just an opinion, but even though I am usually pro defense, I am not defending this guy. It is my opinion he murdered his wife, whether or not it was pre meditated or intentional is another story. I just think Michael flew off the handle again in one of his rages and he lost control and ended up killing his wife. He then decided he had to dispose of the body, although I am not sure Mike would have needed an accomplice to dispose of the body.

wiseguy182 · 09-27-2007, 12:12 AM

yeah, that was interesting Bonnie's dad defended Michael, although I thought his explanations for stuff were pretty weak. And Michael himself didn't interview that I recall.

crystaldawn · 09-27-2007, 08:21 AM

I definitely think her husband is guilty of her murder. Here's an article you guys might find interesting:

http://www.local10.com/news/4396163/detail.html

kadrmas15 · 09-27-2007, 02:04 PM

Wow Crystaldawn, that is something. Yes, even though I am normally pro defense I do feel that Michael Haim murdered his wife. Whether or not he planned it or not is another story but I do think he did kill her.

My own opinion was that either Michael and Bonnie got in another fight and Michael finally lost total control and went over the edge and killed his wife and then panicked, decided to cover it up and stuff.

Or maybe Bonnie finally told Michael she was tired of him and his abuse and that she was done with him and Michael decided Bonnie was actually serious about leaving him and that the gig was up and that if he couldnt have Bonnie no one would have her.

It is really telling though that the family filed a civil suit against him, that tells me that Bonnie's father at some point must have turned on Michael and decided he did it. I am also glad Michael had his parental rights terminated when Aaron would have been around 9.

I do think if Bonnie's body were found, Michael Haim would be ordered arrested within the hour of the body being found.

wiseguy182 · 09-27-2007, 02:26 PM

well at the very least, Michael will have to pay (and pay) for his crime. If not in a correctional facility, through the pocketbook.

James T · 09-28-2007, 01:58 AM

I just got through watching this on the latest compilation- thanks for that and the article Crystaldawn

the article opens in Mozilla for anybody who cannot open it in IE like myself, it does however raise a couple of questions- now I firmly believe this guy is totally guilty and was amazed anybody believed him on the segment but how exactly is he going to pay that kind of money? and if his son was made to move the body and relives it every day then he must surely be able to lead detectives to where it was taken?

mozartpc27 · 10-08-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by James T

I just got through watching this on the latest compilation- thanks for that and the article Crystaldawn

the article opens in Mozilla for anybody who cannot open it in IE like myself, it does however raise a couple of questions- now I firmly believe this guy is totally guilty and was amazed anybody believed him on the segment but how exactly is he going to pay that kind of money? and if his son was made to move the body and relives it every day then he must surely be able to lead detectives to where it was taken?

And how does a 3 year old help a grown man hide the body of a grown woman?

Zlatko · 03-08-2010, 05:43 PM

Michael seems pretty guilty judging by his overall past. One thing that bothered me about the case was the way Bonnie's father acted on UM. He seemed completely convinced that Bonnie left on her own and that Michael was innocent. Either he was delusional or he's hiding information regarding her disappearance.

kadrmas15 · 03-08-2010, 05:50 PM

Yeah, if her body was found, Michael Haim would be arrested within the hour. Like I said, it is something that the only reason he was never charged is because they did not find her body. It is rumored his mother helped him cover it up in terms of the crime that his mom helped him dispose of the body. Michael Haim I believe eventually, Bonnie's parents did come around to believing he did it and moved to have Michael's parental rights terminated. He did not even contest it and voluntarily waived his right to appeal. So Michael and Bonnie's son has been living with Bonnie's relatives for some time. I believe Bonnie's family also filed a civil suit against him and he was found responsible for his wife's presumed death. Bonnie I believe was declared legally dead 6 or 7 years after she disappeared.

Wamisto · 04-03-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zlatko

Michael seems pretty guilty judging by his overall past. One thing that bothered me about the case was the way Bonnie's father acted on UM. He seemed completely convinced that Bonnie left on her own and that Michael was innocent. Either he was delusional or he's hiding information regarding her disappearance.

I think there is a third possibility: her father is in denial. He wants to believe she ran off with the kids, because that way, he can continue to believe she is still alive and does not have to deal with the pain of knowing his daughter was murdered.

It happens all the time. What is clear and obvious to the rest of us, the family members just don't seem to see. There have been many "missing persons" profiled on UM that us posters are certain were long ago killed, but whose parents really still believe are still alive and who are still looking for them.

Which is why I think that perhaps, if you interviewed her father today, he might have a different opinion on it. Time has a way of helping people get past their denial.

tiddlywinks950 · 04-05-2010, 04:16 PM

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I think there is a third possibility: her father is in denial. He wants to believe she ran off with the kids, because that way, he can continue to believe she is still alive and does not have to deal with the pain of knowing his daughter was murdered.

It happens all the time. What is clear and obvious to the rest of us, the family members just don't seem to see. There have been many "missing persons" profiled on UM that us posters are certain were long ago killed, but whose parents really still believe are still alive and who are still looking for them.

Which is why I think that perhaps, if you interviewed her father today, he might have a different opinion on it. Time has a way of helping people get past their denial.

I agree. even though he was speaking about his son in laws supposed innocence, he didnt sound like he was completely sold.

this case in particular always made me really sad. bonnie reminds me of my mother...i feel so bad for their son. i doubt she is alive...after all this time, she would have come back by now. i really hope they find her body.

McBevis · 05-17-2010, 06:58 PM

I think he's very guilty, and the fact that his own family thinks less of him than his wife's family is pretty damning, because usually the family of a murder victim would not be sympathetic towards the prime suspect, and it's equally unusual for the suspect's own family to turn against him. I also thought that the comment that was made by Bonnie's father about footprints was pretty pathetic.

Father: "My footprint is in my wife's car and that doesn't mean I've ever harmed her."

Regardless of how mundane the circumstances of the father's footprint may be, it does not in any way mean that there's no reason to be suspicious of the footprint in Bonnie's car.

Hambone2421 · 05-20-2010, 10:43 AM

I just recently re-watched this case and I'm partly surprised that Michael Haim has not been arrested. The other half of me knows that its hard to get a conviction to stick without a body but man there were alot of hints there. The car seat being adjusted back to the exact way it would fit Michael as well as his foot print in her car.

09-26-2007, 04:34 PM	#1
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09-26-2007, 08:55 PM	#3
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	You know, what I found odd, was how Bonnie's dad was seemingly on Mike's side and how Mike's aunt thought that he had murdered Bonnie. Mike seems like one of these wife beaters where it is always his wife's fault when he abuses her. I only base this opinion on the re-enactment in the segment but some of it was based on what Mike did in front of several people. It is just an opinion, but even though I am usually pro defense, I am not defending this guy. It is my opinion he murdered his wife, whether or not it was pre meditated or intentional is another story. I just think Michael flew off the handle again in one of his rages and he lost control and ended up killing his wife. He then decided he had to dispose of the body, although I am not sure Mike would have needed an accomplice to dispose of the body.

09-27-2007, 12:12 AM	#4
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	yeah, that was interesting Bonnie's dad defended Michael, although I thought his explanations for stuff were pretty weak. And Michael himself didn't interview that I recall.

09-27-2007, 08:21 AM	#5
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I definitely think her husband is guilty of her murder. Here's an article you guys might find interesting: http://www.local10.com/news/4396163/detail.html

09-27-2007, 02:04 PM	#6
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Wow Crystaldawn, that is something. Yes, even though I am normally pro defense I do feel that Michael Haim murdered his wife. Whether or not he planned it or not is another story but I do think he did kill her. My own opinion was that either Michael and Bonnie got in another fight and Michael finally lost total control and went over the edge and killed his wife and then panicked, decided to cover it up and stuff. Or maybe Bonnie finally told Michael she was tired of him and his abuse and that she was done with him and Michael decided Bonnie was actually serious about leaving him and that the gig was up and that if he couldnt have Bonnie no one would have her. It is really telling though that the family filed a civil suit against him, that tells me that Bonnie's father at some point must have turned on Michael and decided he did it. I am also glad Michael had his parental rights terminated when Aaron would have been around 9. I do think if Bonnie's body were found, Michael Haim would be ordered arrested within the hour of the body being found.

09-27-2007, 02:26 PM	#7
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	well at the very least, Michael will have to pay (and pay) for his crime. If not in a correctional facility, through the pocketbook.

09-28-2007, 01:58 AM	#8
James T Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2006 Location: England Posts: 1,571	I just got through watching this on the latest compilation- thanks for that and the article Crystaldawn the article opens in Mozilla for anybody who cannot open it in IE like myself, it does however raise a couple of questions- now I firmly believe this guy is totally guilty and was amazed anybody believed him on the segment but how exactly is he going to pay that kind of money? and if his son was made to move the body and relives it every day then he must surely be able to lead detectives to where it was taken?

03-08-2010, 05:43 PM	#10
Zlatko Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2008 Location: Nowhereland Posts: 367	Michael seems pretty guilty judging by his overall past. One thing that bothered me about the case was the way Bonnie's father acted on UM. He seemed completely convinced that Bonnie left on her own and that Michael was innocent. Either he was delusional or he's hiding information regarding her disappearance.

03-08-2010, 05:50 PM	#11
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Yeah, if her body was found, Michael Haim would be arrested within the hour. Like I said, it is something that the only reason he was never charged is because they did not find her body. It is rumored his mother helped him cover it up in terms of the crime that his mom helped him dispose of the body. Michael Haim I believe eventually, Bonnie's parents did come around to believing he did it and moved to have Michael's parental rights terminated. He did not even contest it and voluntarily waived his right to appeal. So Michael and Bonnie's son has been living with Bonnie's relatives for some time. I believe Bonnie's family also filed a civil suit against him and he was found responsible for his wife's presumed death. Bonnie I believe was declared legally dead 6 or 7 years after she disappeared.

05-17-2010, 06:58 PM	#14
McBevis Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 09, 2010 Location: Barrington, New Jersey Posts: 415	I think he's very guilty, and the fact that his own family thinks less of him than his wife's family is pretty damning, because usually the family of a murder victim would not be sympathetic towards the prime suspect, and it's equally unusual for the suspect's own family to turn against him. I also thought that the comment that was made by Bonnie's father about footprints was pretty pathetic. Father: "My footprint is in my wife's car and that doesn't mean I've ever harmed her." Regardless of how mundane the circumstances of the father's footprint may be, it does not in any way mean that there's no reason to be suspicious of the footprint in Bonnie's car.

05-20-2010, 10:43 AM	#15
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,067	I just recently re-watched this case and I'm partly surprised that Michael Haim has not been arrested. The other half of me knows that its hard to get a conviction to stick without a body but man there were alot of hints there. The car seat being adjusted back to the exact way it would fit Michael as well as his foot print in her car.