Lucie Turmel

[wiseguy182]

The update on this segment was like 5 seconds, but I did find some additional information online: The police used a clever trick on the muderer, Ryan Love. Love was a suspect, but was unwilling to give a DNA sample, and the police couldn't make him because there was a law that said people don't have to submit to the tests if they don't want to (the law may have changed since then.) So the police went undercover and committed a few bogus robberies with Love. During the time they spent with Love, they obtained a hair and a tissue that he used an discarded. The DNA matched. He received a life sentence and isn't eligible for parole until he has served 20 years.

Love said he committed the murder because he wanted Turmel's $150 that she had taken in cab fare, because he wished to fly home to meet his parents and didn't want to hit them up for money.

[crystaldawn]

Nice research. Thanks for that additional info. Talk about a senseless crime.

[wiseguy182]

thanks. I knew it hadn't been mentioned before because I noticed this case hasn't been discussed on here before.

I was wondering if they thought Love was Turmel's final ride for the night, or if he managed to get in the cab some other way. It said her final ride for the night was a man and two women, so I wonder what happened to the two women if Love was in the final ride. Were they accomplices or did they get dropped off beforehand?

[James T]

I found this on another site that looks into legal farces, can you believe this nonsense?


On May 17, 1990, Lucie Turmel, a 23-year-old Banff, Alberta cab driver was viciously stabbed to death by Ryan Jason Love. The victim was found lying in the street with 17 stab wounds, many of which showed she was trying to defend herself as Ryan Love killed her. January, 1997. Corrections Canada officials have recommended that, four years into his life sentence, Love be transferred from the Matsqui prison in Abottsford, British Columbia to the William Head Institution, also in B.C. The William Head Institution, located on an 80-acre peninsula across from Victoria, features townhouses instead of cells, a three-hole golf course and a wharf where inmates can while away their leisure hours fishing for salmon.

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by James T

I found this on another site that looks into legal farces, can you believe this nonsense?


On May 17, 1990, Lucie Turmel, a 23-year-old Banff, Alberta cab driver was viciously stabbed to death by Ryan Jason Love. The victim was found lying in the street with 17 stab wounds, many of which showed she was trying to defend herself as Ryan Love killed her. January, 1997. Corrections Canada officials have recommended that, four years into his life sentence, Love be transferred from the Matsqui prison in Abottsford, British Columbia to the William Head Institution, also in B.C. The William Head Institution, located on an 80-acre peninsula across from Victoria, features townhouses instead of cells, a three-hole golf course and a wharf where inmates can while away their leisure hours fishing for salmon.

Yeah, you're right, that's a bunch of nonsense. Killers like Ryan Love deserve one of those twilight zone-esque punishments where they pay for the crime, not just for the rest of their life, but for all eternity.

[Wamisto]

Originally Posted by James T

I found this on another site that looks into legal farces, can you believe this nonsense?


On May 17, 1990, Lucie Turmel, a 23-year-old Banff, Alberta cab driver was viciously stabbed to death by Ryan Jason Love. The victim was found lying in the street with 17 stab wounds, many of which showed she was trying to defend herself as Ryan Love killed her. January, 1997. Corrections Canada officials have recommended that, four years into his life sentence, Love be transferred from the Matsqui prison in Abottsford, British Columbia to the William Head Institution, also in B.C. The William Head Institution, located on an 80-acre peninsula across from Victoria, features townhouses instead of cells, a three-hole golf course and a wharf where inmates can while away their leisure hours fishing for salmon.

Oh, I can believe it. It's Canada, after all. Stuff like this happens all the time. Not only does every criminal, no matter how heinous, get the possibility of parole after 25 years, but now there is a "faint hope clause", allowing a criminal to get out even earlier than that!

Graham James, the predatory junior hockey coach who molested dozens of his players, including NHLers Theoren Fleury and Sheldon Kennedy (and turned them into "raging alcoholic lunatics" - to use Theoren's phrase), got a whopping 3 1/2 years in jail, then good old Canada pardoned him - that's right, pardoned him (because this is normal procedure in Canada, after all) - 5 years after his prison term ended, and off he went to Spain to - you guessed it - coach junior hockey! Theoren has finally exorcised his demons and gotten up the courage to press new charges against James (only Kennedy and an unknown player brought charges the first time he was convicted), so he has been tracked down in Mexico, where he is enjoying the good life. Yay, Canada!

Canada: where our first concern is the criminal and his "rehabilitation" so he can live a happy and normal life.

[Smokescreen]

Originally posted by Wamisto
It's Canada, after all. Stuff like this happens all the time. Not only does every criminal, no matter how heinous, get the possibility of parole after 25 years, but now there is a "faint hope clause", allowing a criminal to get out even earlier than that!

Canada: where our first concern is the criminal and his "rehabilitation" so he can live a happy and normal life.

Yeah I hear ya - I live in the murder capital of Canada (or maybe Edmonton has the title this year?) and brother, don't even get me started

When it comes to the Criminal Justice in Canada, I sometimes feel like I'm living in Bizarro World

[Wamisto]

Originally Posted by Smokescreen

When it comes to the Criminal Justice in Canada, I sometimes feel like I'm living in Bizarro World

Did you know David Milgaard spent more time in prison than than Colin Thatcher?

And "young offender" Steven Truscott spent more time in prison than Karla Homolka?!

[Apostapler]

Ugh you had to mention Karla Homolka. *shudder*

[Kane]

Originally Posted by Wamisto

Canada: where our first concern is the criminal and his "rehabilitation" so he can live a happy and normal life.

Sounds to me Canada is taking a pro-rehabilitative stance to ridiculous extremes. That's what used to happen here in Massachusetts, when we had a prison furlough program that resulted in murderers leaving prison for weekend furloughs (although the now-defunct program wasn't initially designed to accommodate murderers).

[Wamisto]

Originally Posted by Kane

Sounds to me Canada is taking a pro-rehabilitative stance to ridiculous extremes. That's what used to happen here in Massachusetts, when we had a prison furlough program that resulted in murderers leaving prison for weekend furloughs (although the now-defunct program wasn't initially designed to accommodate murderers).

Lovely. We just had a convicted child molester and child killer have his day parole extended and lengthened. In 1980 he killed a 5 year old girl and stuffed her into a garbage can. He has admitted to attacking 40 young girls in his life.

But because "he is making progress in his rehabilitation", he was given day parole. And he is only considered a "moderate risk" to re-offend.

[njf520]

i saw the below on http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Lucie_Turmel :

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Tips, DNA evidence, and police investigation eventually linked Ryan Jason Love as Lucie's killer. He was convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison with parole after twenty years. However, after nineteen years in jail, he was released on parole. He later was conviced of murder in the 2nd degree in the disappearance in Jaime Lyn Morris of Winnepeg Manitoba.
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i can't find anything about Jamie Lyn Morris or anything saying that love was convicted of another crime.. anyone have any info?