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Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 04:06 PM

God, I cannot believe some people have any sort of doubt abt what occurred in that bastards home!

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The jury in the murder trial of legendary music producer Phil Spector has "reached an impasse" after more than a week of deliberations, the trial judge said Tuesday.

Phil Spector, 67, is charged with second-degree murder in the 2003 killing of an actress.

The nine-man, three-woman jury delivered a note to court officials early Tuesday afternoon, warning they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict in Spector's case.

The panel's foreman later told Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler that jurors were split 7-5 after four ballots, but did not indicate which way they were leaning.

Fidler quizzed jurors as to what might break the deadlock and denied a defense request for an immediate mistrial in the case.

But he said he would consider whether to repeat jury instructions, allow jurors to hear a read-back of testimony or let them consider a lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter.

"At this time, I don't believe that anything else will change the positions of the jurors based on the facts that are in evidence," the foreman told the judge.

The jury began deliberating September 10 after hearing testimony and arguments since April.

Spector, 67, is charged with second-degree murder in the 2003 killing of B-movie actress Lana Clarkson.

The onetime star of "Barbarian Queen" and the spoof "Amazon Women on the Moon" was found dead in Spector's Alhambra home -- dubbed "the castle" -- from a single gunshot wound through the roof of the mouth.

Spector's lawyers argue that Clarkson, then working as a VIP hostess at Hollywood's House of Blues, was depressed over a recent breakup, grabbed the .38-caliber pistol and took her own life.

A small amount of blood spattered on Spector's white jacket proves his innocence, they said.

But prosecution witnesses painted Spector as a gun-toting menace, with five women telling harrowing tales on the witness stand of the music producer threatening them with firearms.

Spector's driver testified he heard a loud noise and saw the producer leave the castle holding a revolver, saying, "I think I killed somebody."

The defense attacked the driver's command of the English language, asserting the Brazilian constantly mixes up pronouns and meant to say something else.

But under intense cross-examination, he never strayed from the gist of his original call to a 911 emergency operator.

Spector has won two Grammy Awards and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1989, but he stayed out of the public eye for two decades before his 2003 arrest.

In the 1960s, he became famous as the man behind the "Wall of Sound" -- the instrumentally dense swirl of melody and percussion underlying tunes like The Ronettes' "Be My Baby," the Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" and Ike and Tina Turner's "River Deep, Mountain High."

He later produced the Beatles' "Let it Be" album, John Lennon's "Imagine" and the Ramones' "End of the Century."

FactoryGirl · 09-19-2007, 04:15 PM

They are probably the same jury that found O.J and Robert Blake 'not guilty'

.

This is L.A, where a celebrity, old and new, get away with the law.

Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 04:43 PM

The fact that over five women testified Spector had put a gun to their heads when he "wanted things his way" tells me this bastard is guilty. Along with other factors.

TJL · 09-19-2007, 05:31 PM

Hey, let's not be too hard on the L.A. courts.

They managed to put those evil nasty celebutants Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie behind bars!

They just have a problem getting the celebs who murder women convicted.

Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TJL

Hey, let's not be too hard on the L.A. courts.

They managed to put those evil nasty celebutants Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie behind bars!

They just have a problem getting the celebs who murder women convicted.

Boy, and I felt so damn safe with them behind bars.

sweetdiggity · 09-19-2007, 05:50 PM

I can't believe this.

How can anyone think he is not guilty?

FactoryGirl · 09-19-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJL

Hey, let's not be too hard on the L.A. courts.

They managed to put those evil nasty celebutants Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie behind bars!

They just have a problem getting the celebs who murder women convicted.

Chelsea · 09-19-2007, 05:59 PM

Hell, the fact that either 5 or 7 jurors, IN A CALIFORNIA "CELEBRITY" TRIAL, are convinced of guilt is astounding.

catlover79 · 09-19-2007, 06:05 PM

He's just as cocky as OJ - and how dumb are these jurors!?

Who else out there thinks that Ronnie (his ex-wife and lead singer of The Ronettes) needs to testify? Her autobiography alone should give these jurors a clue!!!

Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

He's just as cocky as OJ - and how dumb are these jurors!?

Who else out there thinks that Ronnie (his ex-wife and lead singer of The Ronettes) needs to testify? Her autobiography alone should give these jurors a clue!!!

I wondered why she was not brought in as a witness. My only conclusion is that her abuse occurred so long ago (1960's) the prosecution probably felt it would not be in their best interest. Also, before anyone testifies, the prosecution must provide a list of potential witnesses to the defense and vice-versa. The defense has a right to ask the judge to ban certain witnesses for certain reasons. This is done pre-trial.

Also, I don't know if this is true or not, I haven't bothered to research this, but is it true that singer/actress Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and Papas was supposedly hit by Spector or had a gun pulled on her by him?

Scoobiedoo30 · 09-19-2007, 07:09 PM

so now what happens

Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobiedoo30

so now what happens

Well two things can happen. I haven't heard what the decision is but let me try and clear it up for you.

The judge can either decide to call this a mistrial and order a new trial.

or

The judge can call it a mistrial and there won't be another trial. Meaning he walks away scot free and can't be charged for second degree murder. However, the state of California can charge him with a lesser offense of involuntary manslaughter, but so far the judge on this trial doesn't want that because he feels this crime is murder, not manslaughter.

I hope that clears it up for you.

Janice · 09-19-2007, 07:22 PM

These stupid juries today. Even my cats know he's guilty.

FactoryGirl · 09-19-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janice

These stupid juries today. Even my cats know he's guilty.

^5. If this was Joe Blow, he would have been found guilty!!!!

Ireneparalegal · 09-19-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janice

These stupid juries today. Even my cats know he's guilty.

Janice!!!!! Be careful now, I just got me a soda to drink!!!!

uke:

09-19-2007, 04:06 PM	#1
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Phil Spector Jury DEADLOCKED! God, I cannot believe some people have any sort of doubt abt what occurred in that bastards home! LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The jury in the murder trial of legendary music producer Phil Spector has "reached an impasse" after more than a week of deliberations, the trial judge said Tuesday. Phil Spector, 67, is charged with second-degree murder in the 2003 killing of an actress. The nine-man, three-woman jury delivered a note to court officials early Tuesday afternoon, warning they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict in Spector's case. The panel's foreman later told Superior Court Judge Larry Paul Fidler that jurors were split 7-5 after four ballots, but did not indicate which way they were leaning. Fidler quizzed jurors as to what might break the deadlock and denied a defense request for an immediate mistrial in the case. But he said he would consider whether to repeat jury instructions, allow jurors to hear a read-back of testimony or let them consider a lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter. "At this time, I don't believe that anything else will change the positions of the jurors based on the facts that are in evidence," the foreman told the judge. The jury began deliberating September 10 after hearing testimony and arguments since April. Spector, 67, is charged with second-degree murder in the 2003 killing of B-movie actress Lana Clarkson. The onetime star of "Barbarian Queen" and the spoof "Amazon Women on the Moon" was found dead in Spector's Alhambra home -- dubbed "the castle" -- from a single gunshot wound through the roof of the mouth. Spector's lawyers argue that Clarkson, then working as a VIP hostess at Hollywood's House of Blues, was depressed over a recent breakup, grabbed the .38-caliber pistol and took her own life. A small amount of blood spattered on Spector's white jacket proves his innocence, they said. But prosecution witnesses painted Spector as a gun-toting menace, with five women telling harrowing tales on the witness stand of the music producer threatening them with firearms. Spector's driver testified he heard a loud noise and saw the producer leave the castle holding a revolver, saying, "I think I killed somebody." The defense attacked the driver's command of the English language, asserting the Brazilian constantly mixes up pronouns and meant to say something else. But under intense cross-examination, he never strayed from the gist of his original call to a 911 emergency operator. Spector has won two Grammy Awards and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1989, but he stayed out of the public eye for two decades before his 2003 arrest. In the 1960s, he became famous as the man behind the "Wall of Sound" -- the instrumentally dense swirl of melody and percussion underlying tunes like The Ronettes' "Be My Baby," the Righteous Brothers' "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" and Ike and Tina Turner's "River Deep, Mountain High." He later produced the Beatles' "Let it Be" album, John Lennon's "Imagine" and the Ramones' "End of the Century."
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09-19-2007, 05:50 PM	#6
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09-19-2007, 04:15 PM	#2
FactoryGirl Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 10, 2007 Location: Spinning tunes at club Mood Posts: 448	They are probably the same jury that found O.J and Robert Blake 'not guilty' . This is L.A, where a celebrity, old and new, get away with the law.

09-19-2007, 04:43 PM	#3
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	The fact that over five women testified Spector had put a gun to their heads when he "wanted things his way" tells me this bastard is guilty. Along with other factors.

09-19-2007, 07:09 PM	#11
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09-19-2007, 07:22 PM	#13
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	These stupid juries today. Even my cats know he's guilty.