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Old 09-18-2007, 07:30 PM   #1
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Default Ricky...Anger Management? LOL

We seen Ricky blow his top, some of the time he had a right to and other times he seemed to blow his stack over something that was not worth getting angry abt. What are the times that Ricky got angry, whether he had a right to or not?

One example that comes to mind is when the Ricardos and Mertzes are in Switzerland and Fred accidently sends the band to Locarno instead of Lucerne. Ricky is told what happens and he yells out, "You're fired." I always found that to be so mean on Ricky's part as Fred didn't do it on purpose. Yes, Ricky hired him as a band manager, however, it had been years since Fred did that sort of thing. Ricky wanted someone cheap, I imagine, and he then gets mad at Fred for something like that? Poor Fred.
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And then there were times when he should have been furious but he kept it in, like in "Lucy's Schedule." She made him an hour late to meet his boss. Instead of blowing up, he marched home and made up that schedule.

In the Lucy Book on page 91, his famous rant is printed. They typed it all in one long string because that's how he said it. Irene, can you break it down for us? I know you mentioned it before, but this is the first time I saw it in print. Maybe spouting this off kept him out of an anger management class!

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And then there were times when he should have been furious but he kept it in, like in "Lucy's Schedule." She made him an hour late to meet his boss. Instead of blowing up, he marched home and made up that schedule.

In the Lucy Book on page 91, his famous rant is printed. They typed it all in one long string because that's how he said it. Irene, can you break it down for us? I know you mentioned it before, but this is the first time I saw it in print. Maybe spouting this off kept him out of an anger management class!

"Miraquetienecosalamujeresta!"
Sure.

Mira que tiene cosa la mujer esta. It translates into something like this:

"Look at this thing this woman has done"... it doesn't translate as well as it sounds in spanish. Generally speaking he is screaming, "Look at what this woman has done." When he screams it he also will scream something right after saying that sentence. For example when he screams and breaks the things in the Hollywood hotel room. He is upset because Lucy got him fired. He will say that "Mira que tiene cosa..." and then continue to say things like "she pretended to be my agent and got me fired."
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Thanks! Sometimes I can understand some words after his outburst to get the idea of what he is saying.

I wonder if that was the first real Spanish spoken on a sitcom.
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Thanks! Sometimes I can understand some words after his outburst to get the idea of what he is saying.

I wonder if that was the first real Spanish spoken on a sitcom.
You got me there. I am sure someone can give us the answer to that. Just like I wonder if the Scotland episode is the first time a sitcom had a "dream" episode.
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What are the times that Ricky got angry, whether he had a right to or not?
How about when he virtually destroyed the Hollywood hotel room in "Ricky Needs an Agent"?
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How about when he virtually destroyed the Hollywood hotel room in "Ricky Needs an Agent"?
I think I would've done the same thing.
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He had to do that to avoid strangling Lucy.
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Thanks! Sometimes I can understand some words after his outburst to get the idea of what he is saying.

I wonder if that was the first real Spanish spoken on a sitcom.
I think the only other sitcom characters who would dissolve into angry Spanish rants were Julio Fuentes (Sanford & Son) and Chano Amenguale (Barney Miller). Both characters were played by the muy caliente Gregory Sierra.
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Didn't Lucy say this when she and Ethel tried to change a tire on their way to California?
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Didn't Lucy say this when she and Ethel tried to change a tire on their way to California?
It's actually on the trip to Florida when they hitch a ride with Mrs. Grundy. Lucy shouts the same phrase as Ricky, but I hear the word goma in there. I think it means "rubber" (tire).
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It's actually on the trip to Florida when they hitch a ride with Mrs. Grundy. Lucy shouts the same phrase as Ricky, but I hear the word goma in there. I think it means "rubber" (tire).
I know she says something different but I can't remember right now how she says it. I have to see the scene or have the dialogue posted here. It is funny.

Also, speaking of spanish phrases, in the Cuba episode, Lucy is accused of calling Unlce Alberto a "big fat pig" in spanish. However, she never called him a pig. She did say the words "macho grasa" which translates into "fat man" (macho is spanish for male or man, grasa is spanish for fatty, fat or greasy) BUT our beloved Lucy never said the spanish word for PIG. I would like to take the opportunity to clear our beloved Lucy of this erroneous charge.
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I know she says something different but I can't remember right now how she says it. I have to see the scene or have the dialogue posted here. It is funny.

Also, speaking of spanish phrases, in the Cuba episode, Lucy is accused of calling Unlce Alberto a "big fat pig" in spanish. However, she never called him a pig. She did say the words "macho grasa" which translates into "fat man" (macho is spanish for male or man, grasa is spanish for fatty, fat or greasy) BUT our beloved Lucy never said the spanish word for PIG. I would like to take the opportunity to clear our beloved Lucy of this erroneous charge.
Thanks! Even as a kid I didn't understand that. We all knew that "puerco" meant "pig." My brothers and I called each other that on a daily basis!
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Yes, you are right, "puerco" or even "marano" (sp?) is the word. Actually, when one says "puerco" it really means "pork", but hey, pork does come from pigs.
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Yes, you are right, "puerco" or even "marano" (sp?) is the word. Actually, when one says "puerco" it really means "pork", but hey, pork does come from pigs.

When it came to calling a sibling a name, "puerco" worked nicely.
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