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Billy K. · 08-15-2007, 06:41 PM

Other than the part where they start dancing and maybe the part at the beginning where Don Adams is dressed like a hippie...I didn't think this episode was too great.

Of course, maybe it's jsut me...I've heard wonderful things about how classic this eppy was -- so maybe I was expecting too much.

Any opinions?

Mikado · 08-15-2007, 09:09 PM

Its always been one of my fave episodes, but, I think it has more to do with the silly "Hollywood" version of the 60s Hippies thing.............my fave part is when Max contemplates the Hippie girl's navel...instead of his own!

One "hole" in the plot is that Max and 99s heartbeats are amplified by the giant amplifyer, but, their whispers and footsteps arent!

treky · 08-16-2007, 02:27 AM

I haven't seen that eppy in YEARS; but from what I remember; I agree-it is overrated.
I think that one was made when the BATMAN show was at it's height of popularity; and they were getting a litle "Batmanish" with their villians sometimes.

Mikado · 08-16-2007, 08:30 AM

Well, you have to admit that "The Sacred Cows" were so rediculous, that they were hilarious!

Lee G · 08-16-2007, 12:49 PM

I would agree that the episode is overrated. What makes it unique is the hippie theme and the nonsense that goes on during the episode. Definitely spot on for the late 60's, but looking at the episode today it's pretty dated and not all that funny. For someone new to Get Smart, this is one episode to avoid until you've seen most of the others. The Groovy Guru is one of those episodes that "jumps the shark". I think overall, season three of Get Smart is the weakest season.

Mikado · 08-16-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee G

I would agree that the episode is overrated. What makes it unique is the hippie theme and the nonsense that goes on during the episode. Definitely spot on for the late 60's, but looking at the episode today it's pretty dated and not all that funny. For someone new to Get Smart, this is one episode to avoid until you've seen most of the others. The Groovy Guru is one of those episodes that "jumps the shark". I think overall, season three of Get Smart is the weakest season.

Well, its all pretty subjective, Ive always thought of the 1967-68 season as the best one (I've never seen season 5, but, I'm sure thats the one most likely to be the worst, since theyd pretty much run out of ideas, apparently)

Carrie · 08-16-2007, 03:49 PM

The Groovy Guru is one of my favorite episodes and one of the highlights of season 3. That's just my opinion though. It was definitely one of the more silly episodes.

Lee G · 08-16-2007, 03:50 PM

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Well, its all pretty subjective, Ive always thought of the 1967-68 season as the best one (I've never seen season 5, but, I'm sure thats the one most likely to be the worst, since theyd pretty much run out of ideas, apparently)

Season five is actually pretty good, some fans say it's their favorite season. A few episodes are clunkers, but the majority of season five episodes are worthy of a thumbs up. If you check out the favorite season poll on this board, seven people have responded so far and five of them say season five is their favorite. I've never cared much for season three. Watching some of those episodes, it seems like the series was starting to get stale. Some episodes though from the third season are good. I think the show got a little better again with seasons four and five. Max and 99 got married in season four, and the twins came along in season five. It seems with the last two seasons, the writers regained some of the inspiration that was present in seasons one and two.

Another thing I don't like about season three is 99's hair. Barbara Feldon let her hair grow out as the series went on, in season three her hair was at that in-between stage. Her hair was about shoulder length and the style was straight and flat. Not attractive at all. In the last two seasons her hair had grown longer, past the shoulders and had a nicer looking hair style.

Mikado · 08-16-2007, 04:03 PM

Well, like I said, its all pretty subjective..."The Get Smart Handbook" rates many of my fave episodes poorly, while I find many of their high rated eps as among the the lamest......it would be unlikely that everyone would choose the same eps their choice for bests.
The reason ive never seen season 5 is that strange clause in the syndication contract that makes showing the 5th season more trouble than its worth , to distributors. ( I'm sure you know what im reffering to )

Billy K. · 08-20-2007, 09:34 AM

RE: The Groovy Guru...

Favorite parts on this episode: the secret passwords at the beginning:

"The Grateful Dead are alive and well in Beverly Hills"

86: "Simon And Garfunkel fell off the Talehache bridge".

and then the dance scene where 86 & 99 start dancing. 86 dances pretty funny in that part.

The song though is stupid -- the whole "Sacred Cows" thing is stupid.

And yes...I was wondering that too. If they can walk around and whisper, why is it not coming up on the amplifiing system -- but yet their heartbeats can??

Also what I don't understand is is why the Sacred Cows song affect the other 2 CONTROL AGENTS but not 99 and 86??

Carrie · 08-20-2007, 10:04 AM

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Also what I don't understand is is why the Sacred Cows song affect the other 2 CONTROL AGENTS but not 99 and 86??

Max had taken a lie pill, which helped for a little while. It did eventually effect him though. Since 99 didn't take one, it effected her right away. When the Groovy Guru left, the music stopped so I guess they were able to block the song out of their mind enough to be able to stop the broadcast.

Mikado · 08-20-2007, 05:11 PM

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Another thing I don't like about season three is 99's hair. Barbara Feldon let her hair grow out as the series went on, in season three her hair was at that in-between stage. Her hair was about shoulder length and the style was straight and flat. Not attractive at all. In the last two seasons her hair had grown longer, past the shoulders and had a nicer looking hair style.

Ive read several interviews with Barbara Feldon, where she admitted that she had "very fine" hair that didnt photograph well.....what we were actually seeing wasnt her actual hair, but wigs and hair extensions!

Mikado · 08-22-2007, 02:23 PM

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As far as I know, that's Barbara Feldon's own hair we see in the episodes. Occasionally, she may have worn a wig in some episodes as part of a disguise. I'm not an expert on hair styles, but I don't think hair extensions were commonly used in the 60's.

Actually, wigs and hair extensions were huge in the late 60s ( They even used to sell them on the back covers of comic books!

)...along with the phoniest false eyelashes you ever saw! and as I said, Barb Feldon used these beauty aids as much as possible.

jamesanthony · 09-06-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikado

Actually, wigs and hair extensions were huge in the late 60s ( They even used to sell them on the back covers of comic books!

)...along with the phoniest false eyelashes you ever saw! and as I said, Barb Feldon used these beauty aids as much as possible.

Yes- fake hair was a big thing in the 60s. I've read that Barbara Feldon admitted that she wore wigs and hairpieces in most of the episodes although I read somewhere that in the third season she does wear her own hair sometimes. In some episodes it is very obvious that she is wearing fake hair or a full wig. Her best hairdo was the ponytail hairstyle in year 4 which was one of the most natural looking hairdos that she had. Funny that her hair does grow out throughout season 3 so whatever wigs or fake hair she was using that season had were correspondingly longer from week to week. Her hair in the last season episodes that I've seen (haven't seen most, but have seen screen caps online and bloopers) is obviously an attachment.

Mikado · 09-07-2007, 12:33 AM

Thx for the confirmation James....I knew about her hair from TV interviews, but, I couldnt find anything online to back it up...so thanks loads, man!

08-15-2007, 06:41 PM	#1
Billy K. Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2006 Posts: 342	"The Groovy Guru" Overrated? Other than the part where they start dancing and maybe the part at the beginning where Don Adams is dressed like a hippie...I didn't think this episode was too great. Of course, maybe it's jsut me...I've heard wonderful things about how classic this eppy was -- so maybe I was expecting too much. Any opinions?

08-16-2007, 02:27 AM	#3
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08-16-2007, 03:49 PM	#7
Carrie Dreamin' of Jeannie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 09, 2004 Location: Cocoa Beach Posts: 1,768	The Groovy Guru is one of my favorite episodes and one of the highlights of season 3. That's just my opinion though. It was definitely one of the more silly episodes.
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08-15-2007, 09:09 PM	#2
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,892	Its always been one of my fave episodes, but, I think it has more to do with the silly "Hollywood" version of the 60s Hippies thing.............my fave part is when Max contemplates the Hippie girl's navel...instead of his own! One "hole" in the plot is that Max and 99s heartbeats are amplified by the giant amplifyer, but, their whispers and footsteps arent!

08-16-2007, 08:30 AM	#4
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,892	Well, you have to admit that "The Sacred Cows" were so rediculous, that they were hilarious!

08-16-2007, 12:49 PM	#5
Lee G Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 24, 2004 Posts: 850	I would agree that the episode is overrated. What makes it unique is the hippie theme and the nonsense that goes on during the episode. Definitely spot on for the late 60's, but looking at the episode today it's pretty dated and not all that funny. For someone new to Get Smart, this is one episode to avoid until you've seen most of the others. The Groovy Guru is one of those episodes that "jumps the shark". I think overall, season three of Get Smart is the weakest season.

08-16-2007, 04:03 PM	#9
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,892	Well, like I said, its all pretty subjective..."The Get Smart Handbook" rates many of my fave episodes poorly, while I find many of their high rated eps as among the the lamest......it would be unlikely that everyone would choose the same eps their choice for bests. The reason ive never seen season 5 is that strange clause in the syndication contract that makes showing the 5th season more trouble than its worth , to distributors. ( I'm sure you know what im reffering to )

08-20-2007, 09:34 AM	#10
Billy K. Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2006 Posts: 342	RE: The Groovy Guru... Favorite parts on this episode: the secret passwords at the beginning: "The Grateful Dead are alive and well in Beverly Hills" 86: "Simon And Garfunkel fell off the Talehache bridge". and then the dance scene where 86 & 99 start dancing. 86 dances pretty funny in that part. The song though is stupid -- the whole "Sacred Cows" thing is stupid. And yes...I was wondering that too. If they can walk around and whisper, why is it not coming up on the amplifiing system -- but yet their heartbeats can?? Also what I don't understand is is why the Sacred Cows song affect the other 2 CONTROL AGENTS but not 99 and 86??

09-07-2007, 12:33 AM	#15
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,892	Thx for the confirmation James....I knew about her hair from TV interviews, but, I couldnt find anything online to back it up...so thanks loads, man!