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Ireneparalegal · 08-01-2007, 10:18 PM

Any Hillman episode.

Any scenes where characters did Shakespeare or MacBeth or anything remotely like that.

Pam

Olivia

Anybody that came on board in the later seasons.

Vanessa's hairstyles. It all started with that wedge haircut or as I call it the "gumby look"...that was made famous by R&B singer Bobby Brown.

Denise's wardrobe and some of her hideous hairstyles too.

Elvin and his whimpy persona.

Sondra being controlling. It seems she had to end up with Elvin. What other man would tolerate that kind of attitude?

Theo getting so mad at Cockroach for being on DanceMania.

The puppet/muppet episode.

Pinochle scenes.

The scene of Cliff and other gentlemen playing basketball against those young girls.

USATVFAN · 08-01-2007, 10:31 PM

Sondra being controlling. It seems she had to end up with Elvin. What other man would tolerate that kind of attitude?
Will We Know Who She Got It From.

Ireneparalegal · 08-01-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by George&weezyforever

Sondra being controlling. It seems she had to end up with Elvin. What other man would tolerate that kind of attitude?
Will We Know Who She Got It From.

For damn sure.

Mikado · 08-02-2007, 12:43 AM

We could have done without
-Cliff's sweater collection
-Cliff's "funny faces"
-The "Grandparents" shows
-Hillman & any MENTION of it
-Sondra ( Why bring the oldest daughter home from college, when there was already too big a cast?)
-All the shows after the Hillman ep..........I never watched them anyway!

Brieannas21 · 08-02-2007, 01:29 AM

Theo teaching at the community center, Now those were some boring scenes.

Ireneparalegal · 08-02-2007, 06:40 PM

Mikey and Brie, I so agree with your posts.
I did like the grandparents when the family was singing (lip-synching) to those songs. Those scenes are hilarious. I also liked when the grandparents were over for the barbecue and Theo brought up in that episode abt giving Martin a belated bachelor party. Seeing Grandma Huxtable getting upset after all those years made me

Theo at the community center was indeed boring.

JulieSomoski · 08-02-2007, 07:48 PM

I always liked the scenes with Theo at the community center, especially the one where Theo's student's mother asks Theo on a date at the parent-teacher conference. I thought it was funny.

But, I could have done without a lot of things, like Sondra. They added her to the cast, but she was only around half the episodes each season. And, the episodes she was in, it was pointless for her being there. I completely could have doen without her and Elvin. I definitel could have done without Hillman altogether, like most of us could. There's also Theo's overreacting about every little thing that bothered me. It seemed like whenever someone did something he didn't like, he had to whine and complain about it. That always bothered me.

Ireneparalegal · 08-02-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by roseanne88-97

I always liked the scenes with Theo at the community center, especially the one where Theo's student's mother asks Theo on a date at the parent-teacher conference. I thought it was funny.

But, I could have done without a lot of things, like Sondra. They added her to the cast, but she was only around half the episodes each season. And, the episodes she was in, it was pointless for her being there. I completely could have doen without her and Elvin. I definitel could have done without Hillman altogether, like most of us could. There's also Theo's overreacting about every little thing that bothered me. It seemed like whenever someone did something he didn't like, he had to whine and complain about it. That always bothered me.

And what was funny abt Theo getting mad is that he didn't seem to know how to be mad. He would get mad at the dumbest things, and when he did get mad was that he did come off as a complainer/whiner. Like the DanceMania episode when he threw the phone out in the street.

That was funny, but the overdramatics he showed was not believable at all.

platinumblondelife · 08-03-2007, 03:17 AM

I guess Im the only one who liked Pam lol. Anyway, I couldve done without Sandra, her character seemed pointess and boring.

Mikado · 08-03-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by platinumblondelife

I guess Im the only one who liked Pam lol. Anyway, I couldve done without Sandra, her character seemed pointess and boring.

Well, i think the point of Sondra was...........oh yeah, youre right, she was pointless and boring!

Furienna · 08-04-2007, 03:38 PM

Platinumblondlife, I like Pam too. I don't know why people complain so much at her. Olivia was a much worse and pointless addition. Rudy was still on the show and didn't have to be replaced by a new "little kid", while Vanessa went off to college in Philadelphia, and there WAS room for a new teenage girl.

About Sondra and Elvin, well, I must say I really laughed, when Cliff and Claire first visited their first apartment. But maybe they weren't funny otherwise. But then, I don't watch this show to get a laugh anyway. I think they belong on the show just as much as anyone else does, even though how they brought Sondra into the show was a little bit weird. I think poor Elvin was treated badly in the beginning. He was a sweet guy, but just because he didn't jump right on Claire's train of feminism, he was labeled "a bad guy". But he would never really hurt Sondra. He even tried to adjust himself to the views, which Claire had planted into Sondra. I think Kenny and his brother was more to worry about than Elvin. And yet, Cliff had to call Kenny "Elvin" in a bad way once.

Ireneparalegal · 08-04-2007, 03:41 PM

I think the actress who played Pam should have played Sondra instead. However, rather than have the character of Sondra be played out the way we we saw her, rather, have the Sondra character be more like the Pam character. Still have the character be a student at Princeton, but be more funnier like the Pam character, be more grounded. Sondra seemed to "uppity" for my taste and was just a clone of Claire.

My negative feelings towards Pam were simply that she wasn't needed on the show. Olivia and her were just two too many characters. I like how Pam was, we just didn't need that by that point in the show. Why couldn't the character of Sondra be more like the Pam character, with the actress who played her?

Furienna · 08-04-2007, 04:08 PM

Well, poor Erika Alexander did look older than what she probably was. But I don't think she could how looked like a twenty-year-old in 1984. I'm looking it up... Well, she was born in 1969... So she was over twenty, when she played a teenager... But she probably couldn't have done a twenty-year-old in 1984. I can understand, that it felt weird to suddenly have her on the show, but really, Vanessa wasn't around, so there was room for a teenage girl on the show. In my opinion, it looked like there were many people on the show in the opening credits, but by that time, all these people were needed to make an entire season. I also have to agree, that Sondra very much seems like a Claire clone. Far more so than any other of her daughters, except maybe Rudy.

Brieannas21 · 08-04-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by platinumblondelife

I guess Im the only one who liked Pam lol. Anyway, I couldve done without Sandra, her character seemed pointess and boring.

I TOTALLY AGREE!!! I loved the Pam character, she was funny and she fit in well. I don't think that Sandra really blended well with the others, she was like the odd ball of the bunch. Also in the beginning Elvin got on my nerves, his way of thinking was sooooooooooooo old fashion. I don't see where he got it from because he parts didn't see to be that closed minded

Furienna · 08-04-2007, 04:24 PM

He he, poor Elvin... He didn't want his wife to be a career woman like his mother. Unfortuneately, he fell in love with Sondra, whose mother was among the worst bitches in sitcom history, and she wanted her daughters to her clones, that is successful career women, who controled their husbands. Actually, nothing Elvin said ever got on my nerves. The people complaining at him did. He was a sweet guy, who just wasn't as "feministic" as Claire was and had made Cliff be. He didn't deserve that treatment.

Kudos to you for liking Pam though. It seems like there are three of us now.

08-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#1
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08-02-2007, 07:48 PM	#7
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08-03-2007, 03:17 AM	#9
platinumblondelife smooches. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 2,189	I guess Im the only one who liked Pam lol. Anyway, I couldve done without Sandra, her character seemed pointess and boring.
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08-01-2007, 10:31 PM	#2
USATVFAN Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 31, 2007 Location: Kalispell, USA Posts: 1,742	Sondra being controlling. It seems she had to end up with Elvin. What other man would tolerate that kind of attitude? Will We Know Who She Got It From.

08-02-2007, 12:43 AM	#4
Mikado Main st bridge Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 06, 2005 Posts: 25,880	We could have done without -Cliff's sweater collection -Cliff's "funny faces" -The "Grandparents" shows -Hillman & any MENTION of it -Sondra ( Why bring the oldest daughter home from college, when there was already too big a cast?) -All the shows after the Hillman ep..........I never watched them anyway!

08-02-2007, 01:29 AM	#5
Brieannas21 Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 05, 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 9,792	Theo teaching at the community center, Now those were some boring scenes.

08-02-2007, 06:40 PM	#6
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Mikey and Brie, I so agree with your posts. I did like the grandparents when the family was singing (lip-synching) to those songs. Those scenes are hilarious. I also liked when the grandparents were over for the barbecue and Theo brought up in that episode abt giving Martin a belated bachelor party. Seeing Grandma Huxtable getting upset after all those years made me Theo at the community center was indeed boring.

08-04-2007, 03:38 PM	#11
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,280	Platinumblondlife, I like Pam too. I don't know why people complain so much at her. Olivia was a much worse and pointless addition. Rudy was still on the show and didn't have to be replaced by a new "little kid", while Vanessa went off to college in Philadelphia, and there WAS room for a new teenage girl. About Sondra and Elvin, well, I must say I really laughed, when Cliff and Claire first visited their first apartment. But maybe they weren't funny otherwise. But then, I don't watch this show to get a laugh anyway. I think they belong on the show just as much as anyone else does, even though how they brought Sondra into the show was a little bit weird. I think poor Elvin was treated badly in the beginning. He was a sweet guy, but just because he didn't jump right on Claire's train of feminism, he was labeled "a bad guy". But he would never really hurt Sondra. He even tried to adjust himself to the views, which Claire had planted into Sondra. I think Kenny and his brother was more to worry about than Elvin. And yet, Cliff had to call Kenny "Elvin" in a bad way once.

08-04-2007, 03:41 PM	#12
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	I think the actress who played Pam should have played Sondra instead. However, rather than have the character of Sondra be played out the way we we saw her, rather, have the Sondra character be more like the Pam character. Still have the character be a student at Princeton, but be more funnier like the Pam character, be more grounded. Sondra seemed to "uppity" for my taste and was just a clone of Claire. My negative feelings towards Pam were simply that she wasn't needed on the show. Olivia and her were just two too many characters. I like how Pam was, we just didn't need that by that point in the show. Why couldn't the character of Sondra be more like the Pam character, with the actress who played her?

08-04-2007, 04:08 PM	#13
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,280	Well, poor Erika Alexander did look older than what she probably was. But I don't think she could how looked like a twenty-year-old in 1984. I'm looking it up... Well, she was born in 1969... So she was over twenty, when she played a teenager... But she probably couldn't have done a twenty-year-old in 1984. I can understand, that it felt weird to suddenly have her on the show, but really, Vanessa wasn't around, so there was room for a teenage girl on the show. In my opinion, it looked like there were many people on the show in the opening credits, but by that time, all these people were needed to make an entire season. I also have to agree, that Sondra very much seems like a Claire clone. Far more so than any other of her daughters, except maybe Rudy.

08-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#15
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,280	He he, poor Elvin... He didn't want his wife to be a career woman like his mother. Unfortuneately, he fell in love with Sondra, whose mother was among the worst bitches in sitcom history, and she wanted her daughters to her clones, that is successful career women, who controled their husbands. Actually, nothing Elvin said ever got on my nerves. The people complaining at him did. He was a sweet guy, who just wasn't as "feministic" as Claire was and had made Cliff be. He didn't deserve that treatment. Kudos to you for liking Pam though. It seems like there are three of us now.