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malicedoom · 07-25-2007, 06:21 PM

Weird thing - I was watching the Pilot episode on the recently released Season 1 - DVD for Benson, and noticed one small change.

At the very end of the episode, when Benson and Katie are sitting at the kitchen table, Katie is talking about how poorly she's treated her father and she tells Benson she feels terrible. Benson tells Katie: "You should." Katie replies: "Thanks. You work a lot with depressed people??"

Katie's line is different than every other aired version of the pilot that I have previously seen. It used to be: "Thanks. You work a lot with suicides?", which I personally thought was a much funnier line. Here, it's changed.

I'm guessing there must have been an alternate version produced at the time, however, because it's a dub (you can see Missy Gold's lips are still saying the word 'suicide'), but a perfect dub that must have been done right then and there. In fact, had I not been waiting for that line, I never would have known - that's how good of a job was done.

I wonder why - and I know it's one of those stories we'll probably never find out the answer to. Still, quite interesting to see a different version, even if the difference is just so slight. Anyone else catch this?

BensonFan · 07-26-2007, 02:19 AM

Really?? No, I didn't notice that. Well, that's disappointing. Even TV Land used "suicides". Damn PC society we live in--getting carried away with every little thing nowadays.

malicedoom · 07-26-2007, 10:20 AM

Apparently, the version on the DVD *is* the originally aired version - someone on one of the Yahoo Groups just replied that they have a version taped from ABC Daytime back in 1983 and Katie delivers the dubbed "depressed people" line even back then.

Come to think of it, I've seen this sort of thing happen before. When the syndicated versions are produced, in scenes with dubbed lines in them (for whatever reason), the dubbing is removed and the original audio is revealed. My guess is that is what also happened in this case. Go figure. Kinda cool though. And, either way, it's yet another indication of the care taken during the production of the DVDs to provide us with what was originally aired - and let me say once again how much that truly thrills me! GO BENSON!

blink · 07-27-2007, 11:35 PM

My guess would be that maybe when the episode was edited for it's original airing the producers or maybe ABC decided that a nine year old discussing suicide might have been a little on the dark side for primetime not too mention bad taste. So they made the dub.

energy · 08-01-2007, 02:57 PM

I think it was a good decision to make the change. Suicide is just a little to heavy of a topic for this sweet show to have child make a joke about it. The depressed line works well.

malicedoom · 08-01-2007, 03:00 PM

Yeah, I can see why they changed it, even though I think the original line has more 'bite' and, because of that, ends up being much funnier in a 'shocking' (did she say that?) sort of way.

BensonFan · 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by energy

I think it was a good decision to make the change. Suicide is just a little to heavy of a topic for this sweet show to have child make a joke about it. The depressed line works well.

See, now it didn't bother me one bit. Probably because I already figured Katie to be a precocious child wiser than her years, so a comment like that didn't seem too off-the-wall to me. It was funny in that it caught people by surprise.

malicedoom · 08-01-2007, 08:53 PM

Yeah, it definitely fit better (the 'suicide' line) with Benson's follow-up soon after when he says: "Well that's because I don't think you're a little girl. I think you're forty-six." Classic.

It also makes more sense when you can clearly see how Gold is struggling to keep a straight face after delivering a line like that.

BensonFan · 08-01-2007, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malicedoom

It also makes more sense when you can clearly see how Gold is struggling to keep a straight face after delivering a line like that.

Both her AND Guillaume!

Scoobiedoo30 · 08-02-2007, 09:13 PM

how is the pilot change

07-25-2007, 06:21 PM	#1
malicedoom Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 09, 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 53	DVD - Season 1 - Pilot Episode - Difference Weird thing - I was watching the Pilot episode on the recently released Season 1 - DVD for Benson, and noticed one small change. At the very end of the episode, when Benson and Katie are sitting at the kitchen table, Katie is talking about how poorly she's treated her father and she tells Benson she feels terrible. Benson tells Katie: "You should." Katie replies: "Thanks. You work a lot with depressed people??" Katie's line is different than every other aired version of the pilot that I have previously seen. It used to be: "Thanks. You work a lot with suicides?", which I personally thought was a much funnier line. Here, it's changed. I'm guessing there must have been an alternate version produced at the time, however, because it's a dub (you can see Missy Gold's lips are still saying the word 'suicide'), but a perfect dub that must have been done right then and there. In fact, had I not been waiting for that line, I never would have known - that's how good of a job was done. I wonder why - and I know it's one of those stories we'll probably never find out the answer to. Still, quite interesting to see a different version, even if the difference is just so slight. Anyone else catch this?

08-02-2007, 09:13 PM	#10
Scoobiedoo30 Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Jun 27, 2002 Location: KENNER, LOUISIANA Posts: 27,654	how is the pilot change
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07-26-2007, 02:19 AM	#2
BensonFan Board Psychologist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 16, 2004 Location: Chicago, IL USA Posts: 2,733	Really?? No, I didn't notice that. Well, that's disappointing. Even TV Land used "suicides". Damn PC society we live in--getting carried away with every little thing nowadays.

07-26-2007, 10:20 AM	#3
malicedoom Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 09, 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 53	Apparently, the version on the DVD is the originally aired version - someone on one of the Yahoo Groups just replied that they have a version taped from ABC Daytime back in 1983 and Katie delivers the dubbed "depressed people" line even back then. Come to think of it, I've seen this sort of thing happen before. When the syndicated versions are produced, in scenes with dubbed lines in them (for whatever reason), the dubbing is removed and the original audio is revealed. My guess is that is what also happened in this case. Go figure. Kinda cool though. And, either way, it's yet another indication of the care taken during the production of the DVDs to provide us with what was originally aired - and let me say once again how much that truly thrills me! GO BENSON!

07-27-2007, 11:35 PM	#4
blink Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 17, 2004 Location: Texarkana AR. Posts: 950	My guess would be that maybe when the episode was edited for it's original airing the producers or maybe ABC decided that a nine year old discussing suicide might have been a little on the dark side for primetime not too mention bad taste. So they made the dub.

08-01-2007, 02:57 PM	#5
energy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 07, 2006 Location: florida Posts: 101	I think it was a good decision to make the change. Suicide is just a little to heavy of a topic for this sweet show to have child make a joke about it. The depressed line works well.

08-01-2007, 03:00 PM	#6
malicedoom Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 09, 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 53	Yeah, I can see why they changed it, even though I think the original line has more 'bite' and, because of that, ends up being much funnier in a 'shocking' (did she say that?) sort of way.

08-01-2007, 08:53 PM	#8
malicedoom Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 09, 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 53	Yeah, it definitely fit better (the 'suicide' line) with Benson's follow-up soon after when he says: "Well that's because I don't think you're a little girl. I think you're forty-six." Classic. It also makes more sense when you can clearly see how Gold is struggling to keep a straight face after delivering a line like that.