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themaninblack · 07-17-2007, 12:49 AM

I have yet to hear anything on what the California department of justice found in any investigations it may have launced into the abuses that undoutbtedly occured at Frontera.
May Jesslyn Rich and Teri Lucas never be forgotten...

kadrmas15 · 07-17-2007, 02:55 AM

Well the California Department of Corrections as well as their guards union have a rather long standing history of corruption that continues to this day. This is a problem in many states, but in California the problem is particularly bad because their guard union is arguably the most powerful in the country in terms of prison guard unions and they can usually dictate who gets elected statewide and who doesnt although I do not think they endorsed Arnold and he still won.

I hope they can find who did this to these women but part of the problem is the California Department of Justice probably does not have much motivation to solve this case since their buddies over at the California Department of Corrections probably were involved and know what happened.

themaninblack · 07-17-2007, 02:37 PM

man thats really a shame!
the children of jesslyn rich deserve to know who and why.

kamy · 07-17-2007, 04:50 PM

This story always outraged me; our legal system is a shame when something so obviously a crime is ignored. Disgusting

themaninblack · 07-17-2007, 06:07 PM

what i cannot understand is the account of jesslyns friend...
did they just decide to leave jesslyn there at the bar even though she never came out of the restroom? why not check on her?
according to her account, she saw a man walking right behind jesslyn.
she was never seen again.
it would seem that the information on guards who may have been involved or had knowledge of this crime would be easy to come by.
I have to wonder why Betty Thompson has not done more, to our knowledge, anyway, to bring these people into the light and have them investigated...

kamy · 07-18-2007, 10:35 AM

I remember Betty talking about testifying or something and UM showed a newspaper clipping of her talking, so I think she's trying to do her part. It's ridiculous that law enforcement hasn't sat up and listened. As for Jesslyn Rich being left in the bathroom, I sure hope that was just UM being vague and not giving the whole story.

Zero · 07-19-2007, 12:37 AM

Corruption galore! Especially with the LAPD!

themaninblack · 07-19-2007, 12:55 AM

on the web there is almost totally ZERO information on this case, except the articles detailing the continued inappropriate behavior on behalf of the guards and other staff there.
evidently more than one of them needs to be replaced with someone who has a little more integrity.
it's also not much of a wonder that the prison officials declined to be interviewed for the segment, wanting to protect their own selfish hides.
meanwhile the families of Rich and Lucas are left to wonder who killed the women, and why.
i guess it's just another one of those instances where people who know and disagree are just either afraid or unwilling to make any revelations about the fate of these two women, and other abuses that have occured.

themaninblack · 07-19-2007, 06:57 PM

i just watced this segment again... i cannot imagine what her daughters went through for 8 years not knowing where their mother was...

ForeverPluto · 07-20-2007, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zero

Corruption galore! Especially with the LAPD!

Tell me about it.

(cough) Paris Hilton (cough, cough)

themaninblack · 07-24-2007, 07:28 PM

does anybody know any names of the supervisors or whoever the people may have been involved in this case?
surely the names came out during the investigation that was conducted...

baton_man · 07-26-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamy

This story always outraged me; our legal system is a shame when something so obviously a crime is ignored. Disgusting

This case pissed me off also. You have to think though. When whisle blowers expose corruption those people exposed retailate. Look at the case of Michael Franke.

themaninblack · 02-21-2008, 07:29 PM

I will say it again: dumb....

themaninblack · 06-05-2009, 09:44 PM

just watched this segment again....

Oldschooler81 · 06-06-2009, 04:05 AM

This is another underappreciated case I was always interested in. I'd actually really like to know what the connection was between Jeeslyn and the young inmate who died (Terry Lucas). Not only is it a tragedy she died (probably murdered), but like the segment pointed out, she very likely had information on it.

I can't imagine how corrupt that system must've been, especially considering the intimidation on that woman Betty (forget her last name), and the attempted murder. Does anyone know what happened to her since '92?

07-17-2007, 12:49 AM	#1
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	Frontera Investigation I have yet to hear anything on what the California department of justice found in any investigations it may have launced into the abuses that undoutbtedly occured at Frontera. May Jesslyn Rich and Teri Lucas never be forgotten...

07-19-2007, 12:37 AM	#7
Zero Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 15, 2003 Posts: 495	Corruption galore! Especially with the LAPD!
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07-17-2007, 02:55 AM	#2
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well the California Department of Corrections as well as their guards union have a rather long standing history of corruption that continues to this day. This is a problem in many states, but in California the problem is particularly bad because their guard union is arguably the most powerful in the country in terms of prison guard unions and they can usually dictate who gets elected statewide and who doesnt although I do not think they endorsed Arnold and he still won. I hope they can find who did this to these women but part of the problem is the California Department of Justice probably does not have much motivation to solve this case since their buddies over at the California Department of Corrections probably were involved and know what happened.

07-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#3
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	man thats really a shame! the children of jesslyn rich deserve to know who and why.

07-17-2007, 04:50 PM	#4
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	This story always outraged me; our legal system is a shame when something so obviously a crime is ignored. Disgusting

07-17-2007, 06:07 PM	#5
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	what i cannot understand is the account of jesslyns friend... did they just decide to leave jesslyn there at the bar even though she never came out of the restroom? why not check on her? according to her account, she saw a man walking right behind jesslyn. she was never seen again. it would seem that the information on guards who may have been involved or had knowledge of this crime would be easy to come by. I have to wonder why Betty Thompson has not done more, to our knowledge, anyway, to bring these people into the light and have them investigated...

07-18-2007, 10:35 AM	#6
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	I remember Betty talking about testifying or something and UM showed a newspaper clipping of her talking, so I think she's trying to do her part. It's ridiculous that law enforcement hasn't sat up and listened. As for Jesslyn Rich being left in the bathroom, I sure hope that was just UM being vague and not giving the whole story.

07-19-2007, 12:55 AM	#8
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	on the web there is almost totally ZERO information on this case, except the articles detailing the continued inappropriate behavior on behalf of the guards and other staff there. evidently more than one of them needs to be replaced with someone who has a little more integrity. it's also not much of a wonder that the prison officials declined to be interviewed for the segment, wanting to protect their own selfish hides. meanwhile the families of Rich and Lucas are left to wonder who killed the women, and why. i guess it's just another one of those instances where people who know and disagree are just either afraid or unwilling to make any revelations about the fate of these two women, and other abuses that have occured.

07-19-2007, 06:57 PM	#9
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	i just watced this segment again... i cannot imagine what her daughters went through for 8 years not knowing where their mother was...

07-24-2007, 07:28 PM	#11
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	does anybody know any names of the supervisors or whoever the people may have been involved in this case? surely the names came out during the investigation that was conducted...

02-21-2008, 07:29 PM	#13
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	I will say it again: dumb....

06-05-2009, 09:44 PM	#14
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	just watched this segment again....

06-06-2009, 04:05 AM	#15
Oldschooler81 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 03, 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 457	This is another underappreciated case I was always interested in. I'd actually really like to know what the connection was between Jeeslyn and the young inmate who died (Terry Lucas). Not only is it a tragedy she died (probably murdered), but like the segment pointed out, she very likely had information on it. I can't imagine how corrupt that system must've been, especially considering the intimidation on that woman Betty (forget her last name), and the attempted murder. Does anyone know what happened to her since '92?