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TVFactFan · 06-21-2007, 10:44 AM

Both of these seasons for these shows took major hits when losing Travolta and Esther Rolle but WBK didn't add a Kid to the cast and I have to give WBK season 4 the edge for that reason.

catlover79 · 06-21-2007, 11:02 AM

Good Times - hands down. Why bother having the title "Kotter" in the last season of WBK??

I'd rather watch the Evans kids, Willona and Penny than watching Horshack battle with the bottle.

dakert · 06-21-2007, 12:59 PM

"Special Guest Star" John Travolta was the reason to watch WBK S 4 but if I had to watch the whole season I think I would pick Good Times

comedyfreak · 06-22-2007, 08:17 AM

Good Times for me, I feel season 5 wasn't that bad.

megamanj2004 · 06-25-2007, 08:05 PM

Hands down - S5 of Good Times, b/c there were still good eps. unlike those of S4 of WBK.

WBK got worse when they added Beau DeLaBarre. It was as if the other Sweathogs treated him like he was a regular customer. Plus, Gabe's absence of refusing to show up made things even more worse.

ThomasE · 06-26-2007, 11:48 PM

I will have to go with "Good Times" . It is unfortunate that we have to decide between these two shows.

TVFactFan · 06-27-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasE

I will have to go with "Good Times" . It is unfortunate that we have to decide between these two shows.

You chose Penny over FREDDIE BOOM BOOM?-lol

Dr. Thong · 06-27-2007, 10:12 AM

Although I prefer Welcome Back, Kotter as a show, I would have to go with Good Times. Yes, the absence of Esther Rolle was a setback, but I think the tone of the show generally remained the same. Jimmie Walker and Janet DuBois stepped up to the plate and assumed more of a lead role and while Penny could be annoying, she wasn't as annoying as...

Beau DeLaBarre!!!

Kotter not only had the main character absent for most of the season, but Travolta only made a few appearances and the show all of a sudden went from being a happy-go-lucky sitcom to being socially relevant, with teen suicide, alcoholism, etc.

Good Times had always addressed issues relevant for the times and particularly in relation to black people, so not much changed there.

Both sets of changes, however, ultimately hurt the shows. Kotter was cancelled during season four and although Good Times (with a returned Esther Rolle) came back for a sixth season, the damage was done. At least Good Times saw the writing on the wall and filmed a proper (if abrupt) farewell episode.

snl 70s show fan · 06-27-2007, 05:11 PM

good times the eps with popo head and cool breeze had more laughs than almost any season 4 ep of kotter

ThomasE · 06-30-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAnalyzer

You chose Penny over FREDDIE BOOM BOOM?-lol

Trust me when I say this....it was a an extremely painful choice.

06-21-2007, 10:44 AM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,101	Season 5 of Good Times or Season 4 of Welcome Back Kotter? Both of these seasons for these shows took major hits when losing Travolta and Esther Rolle but WBK didn't add a Kid to the cast and I have to give WBK season 4 the edge for that reason.

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06-25-2007, 08:05 PM	#5
megamanj2004 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 21, 2004 Posts: 2,361	Hands down - S5 of Good Times, b/c there were still good eps. unlike those of S4 of WBK. WBK got worse when they added Beau DeLaBarre. It was as if the other Sweathogs treated him like he was a regular customer. Plus, Gabe's absence of refusing to show up made things even more worse.
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06-26-2007, 11:48 PM	#6
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	I will have to go with "Good Times" . It is unfortunate that we have to decide between these two shows.
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06-21-2007, 12:59 PM	#3
dakert Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 10, 2007 Location: Altoona PA Posts: 3,411	"Special Guest Star" John Travolta was the reason to watch WBK S 4 but if I had to watch the whole season I think I would pick Good Times

06-27-2007, 10:12 AM	#8
Dr. Thong a/k/a "ACK!" Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 10, 2001 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 5,546	Although I prefer Welcome Back, Kotter as a show, I would have to go with Good Times. Yes, the absence of Esther Rolle was a setback, but I think the tone of the show generally remained the same. Jimmie Walker and Janet DuBois stepped up to the plate and assumed more of a lead role and while Penny could be annoying, she wasn't as annoying as... Beau DeLaBarre!!! Kotter not only had the main character absent for most of the season, but Travolta only made a few appearances and the show all of a sudden went from being a happy-go-lucky sitcom to being socially relevant, with teen suicide, alcoholism, etc. Good Times had always addressed issues relevant for the times and particularly in relation to black people, so not much changed there. Both sets of changes, however, ultimately hurt the shows. Kotter was cancelled during season four and although Good Times (with a returned Esther Rolle) came back for a sixth season, the damage was done. At least Good Times saw the writing on the wall and filmed a proper (if abrupt) farewell episode.
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06-27-2007, 05:11 PM	#9
snl 70s show fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 14, 2005 Location: in the forman basment Posts: 2,454	good times the eps with popo head and cool breeze had more laughs than almost any season 4 ep of kotter