Trial for Rachael Raver/Warren Fulton/Veronica Jefferson's Murderer In Progress... - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

LooksLikeCRicci · 06-19-2007, 09:52 PM

For those of you that are interested,

It appears that the trial for Alfred Prieto has begun. He's the guy whose DNA was linked to the murders of Rachael Raver, Warren Fulton, and Veronica Jefferson. In an interesting comment, Virginia prosecutors believe that they can take this case "from trial to tomb in five years."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301350_pf.html

Dislimb · 06-19-2007, 10:36 PM

GREAT find... I was wondering about this just the other day too.

wiseguy182 · 06-20-2007, 03:19 AM

Hopefully they'll throw the book at him.

kadrmas15 · 06-20-2007, 03:59 AM

Well, I am against the death penalty, however I cant say as I will feel sorry if he does get the DP which based on the law he will get since he has taken this to trial.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 06-20-2007, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

In an interesting comment, Virginia prosecutors believe that they can take this case "from trial to tomb in five years."

If he is found guilty (I dont know as I havent followed this case) I can only hope this is true!

kadrmas15 · 06-21-2007, 01:32 AM

Well, I think the VA prosecutors are dreaming if they think they will get him in 5 years. I would say the only way they could get him in 5 years would be either if he waives his appeals and decides he wants to die, or if he confessed to everything that would hurt his case as well. I think the average stay on death row in this country for an inmate before they are executed is something like 11 or 12 years.

According to a Virgnia anti death penalty website. 99 people have been executed in Virginia since the death penalty was re-instead back in the late 1970's. Virginia according to this website is 2nd in the nation when it comes to executions only behind the obvious leader of Texas. Executions have only slowed in Virginia the last two years really and that is because the governor there is a former criminal defense attorney who is anti death penalty, still he has allowed 4 or 5 executions to go forward.

Some states have shorter appeals processes than others, I believe Virginia is one of them but I think overall on average a person is on the row for around 10 years there as well. I do think that he has a much more likely chance of being executed in Virginia at some point than he ever would have in California.

nohwheregirl · 06-21-2007, 07:23 AM

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· In 1990, then-sex crimes Detective Robert Murphy investigated Prieto in a rape, but the case didn't pan out. Murphy later moved to the homicide unit's cold-case squad and inherited the Fulton-Raver case. By coincidence, in 2005, the national DNA database linked Murphy's former rape suspect to the slayings, giving Murphy an opportunity to solve two homicides more than 18 years old.

Woah. I don't remember seeing this information before. I thought the dna match was completely out of the blue, but he was on the radar all along...just on a different case. That's pretty amazing.

kadrmas15 · 06-21-2007, 08:53 AM

Well, Alfredo Prieto has been convicted of the murders of Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton. The jury will now decide whether Prieto will get death or life.

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local...lines-virginia

kamy · 06-22-2007, 03:57 PM

This guy doesn't really resemble the composite sketch of the clean cut black man, that Veronica was seen with before her disappearance. I guess facially he resembles him but he a lot lighter than the sketch. Same guy or not?

Kane · 06-22-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kamy

This guy doesn't really resemble the composite sketch of the clean cut black man, that Veronica was seen with before her disappearance. I guess facially he resembles him but he a lot lighter than the sketch. Same guy or not?

Although DNA evidence has linked Prieto to Veronica's murder, he might not have necessarily been the same man who was seen with Veronica at the supermarket. But if the clean cut man was Prieto, then the couple who described him may have misremembered some details, which is not uncommon.

Those are just some thoughts to consider.

BigBadWolf44 · 06-27-2007, 10:32 PM

Thank god they got the guy finally, although u guys are right, this guy isn't exactly a clean cut black man like they described but DNA doesn't lie right? anyway the clean cut guy might not have been the killer. two others that ticked me off are the one with the little girl that opened her front door and got snatched up by two guys in the middle of the night (I had nightmares that would happen to me when i was little), and the trucker in my state that was dumping hookers along the interstate (we saw the flyers at the rest stops on our way down to florida and then saw the story that very next week on UM when we came home.) do u guys remember these????

wiseguy182 · 06-28-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBadWolf44

Thank god they got the guy finally, although u guys are right, this guy isn't exactly a clean cut black man like they described but DNA doesn't lie right? anyway the clean cut guy might not have been the killer. two others that ticked me off are the one with the little girl that opened her front door and got snatched up by two guys in the middle of the night (I had nightmares that would happen to me when i was little), and the trucker in my state that was dumping hookers along the interstate (we saw the flyers at the rest stops on our way down to florida and then saw the story that very next week on UM when we came home.) do u guys remember these????

The little girl's name was Antoinette Cayedito. Unfortunately, there haven't been any updates on these cases that I'm aware of.

kadrmas15 · 07-05-2007, 04:16 AM

Well Prieto's trial has taken a bizarre turn. A mis-trial was declared in the trial on Tuesday after a juror wrote to the judge and told him that he didnt think the prosecutors had proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt that Prieto murdered Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton, he claimed that he had been the hold out and that he had reluctantly gone along with his fellow jurors to convict because they bullied him into doing so. The judge decided to declare a mis-trial so now they will have to set a new trial and do the whole thing all over again which could be months before the re-trial happens, here is a link with the story.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ss_metro/crime

wiseguy182 · 07-05-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Well Prieto's trial has taken a bizarre turn. A mis-trial was declared in the trial on Tuesday after a juror wrote to the judge and told him that he didnt think the prosecutors had proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt that Prieto murdered Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton, he claimed that he had been the hold out and that he had reluctantly gone along with his fellow jurors to convict because they bullied him into doing so. The judge decided to declare a mis-trial so now they will have to set a new trial and do the whole thing all over again which could be months before the re-trial happens, here is a link with the story.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ss_metro/crime

That's unfortunate, I have no idea what that juror's problem is. Hmm, let's see: DNA matches, history of murder/rape, 11 of 12 people think he's guilty, does this juror think that perhaps, just pehaps, Prieto might possibly be guilty??

I remember talking to one of my college professors about jury duty. I had it that week, so I was letting him know that if I was absent, that would be the reason. He says there is usually one holdout amongst the group. He was on jury duty for a case, and sure enough, there was one holdout. She didn't think the defendants were guilty despite store video camera evidence of the defendants stealing.

She would say "Well, I don't know....." They eventually got her around to their way of thinking, thankfully.

Personally, 11 of 12 is good enough for me. Me: (Quoting the judge from the Weinberg medical fraud case) Execute sentence.

nohwheregirl · 07-05-2007, 12:49 PM

That really sucks for the families. At least there's a 99.9% chance that he'll get a solid conviction at the next trial.

06-19-2007, 09:52 PM	#1
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Trial for Rachael Raver/Warren Fulton/Veronica Jefferson's Murderer In Progress... For those of you that are interested, It appears that the trial for Alfred Prieto has begun. He's the guy whose DNA was linked to the murders of Rachael Raver, Warren Fulton, and Veronica Jefferson. In an interesting comment, Virginia prosecutors believe that they can take this case "from trial to tomb in five years." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...301350_pf.html

06-21-2007, 08:53 AM	#8
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, Alfredo Prieto has been convicted of the murders of Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton. The jury will now decide whether Prieto will get death or life. http://www.dailypress.com/news/local...lines-virginia
	Last edited by kadrmas15; 06-28-2007 at 03:40 PM.

06-27-2007, 10:32 PM	#11
BigBadWolf44 Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jun 27, 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 1	This was one of the stories that bothered me the most Thank god they got the guy finally, although u guys are right, this guy isn't exactly a clean cut black man like they described but DNA doesn't lie right? anyway the clean cut guy might not have been the killer. two others that ticked me off are the one with the little girl that opened her front door and got snatched up by two guys in the middle of the night (I had nightmares that would happen to me when i was little), and the trucker in my state that was dumping hookers along the interstate (we saw the flyers at the rest stops on our way down to florida and then saw the story that very next week on UM when we came home.) do u guys remember these????

06-19-2007, 10:36 PM	#2
Dislimb Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2006 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 431	GREAT find... I was wondering about this just the other day too.

06-20-2007, 03:19 AM	#3
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Hopefully they'll throw the book at him.

06-20-2007, 03:59 AM	#4
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, I am against the death penalty, however I cant say as I will feel sorry if he does get the DP which based on the law he will get since he has taken this to trial.

06-21-2007, 01:32 AM	#6
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, I think the VA prosecutors are dreaming if they think they will get him in 5 years. I would say the only way they could get him in 5 years would be either if he waives his appeals and decides he wants to die, or if he confessed to everything that would hurt his case as well. I think the average stay on death row in this country for an inmate before they are executed is something like 11 or 12 years. According to a Virgnia anti death penalty website. 99 people have been executed in Virginia since the death penalty was re-instead back in the late 1970's. Virginia according to this website is 2nd in the nation when it comes to executions only behind the obvious leader of Texas. Executions have only slowed in Virginia the last two years really and that is because the governor there is a former criminal defense attorney who is anti death penalty, still he has allowed 4 or 5 executions to go forward. Some states have shorter appeals processes than others, I believe Virginia is one of them but I think overall on average a person is on the row for around 10 years there as well. I do think that he has a much more likely chance of being executed in Virginia at some point than he ever would have in California.

06-22-2007, 03:57 PM	#9
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	This guy doesn't really resemble the composite sketch of the clean cut black man, that Veronica was seen with before her disappearance. I guess facially he resembles him but he a lot lighter than the sketch. Same guy or not?

07-05-2007, 04:16 AM	#13
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well Prieto's trial has taken a bizarre turn. A mis-trial was declared in the trial on Tuesday after a juror wrote to the judge and told him that he didnt think the prosecutors had proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt that Prieto murdered Rachel Raver and Warren Fulton, he claimed that he had been the hold out and that he had reluctantly gone along with his fellow jurors to convict because they bullied him into doing so. The judge decided to declare a mis-trial so now they will have to set a new trial and do the whole thing all over again which could be months before the re-trial happens, here is a link with the story. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ss_metro/crime

07-05-2007, 12:49 PM	#15
nohwheregirl THE Mystery Machine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 1,057	That really sucks for the families. At least there's a 99.9% chance that he'll get a solid conviction at the next trial.