Space Cadet re Mary Morris Murder

[Koala]

Mr. Space, Either you are very smart or very stupid. Which is it? Justify yourself, become informed, then speak. More than one person finds you controversial. Perhaps you enjoy it. If you have nothing to say than to be rude I suggest you take a quieter approach and say nothing. If you have a second agenda go for it. You are loosing your self respect; actually you have none, otherwise you would be productive. Or??? I guess You are finally silenced. This was no dream.

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Originally Posted by justins5256
I doubt you'll find much. Most of them were censored/removed.

Ok I'll take the bait re Mary Morris. I'll tell you something more and then I'm not posting to this thread further. From the last thread I started in the fall of 2005 I started conversing with someone else in private that had been posting to the Mary Morris threads on this forum. We Emailed, phoned, and Instant Messaged. She was working all over the world and invited me to join her. When she was in Newfoundland, Canada I flew up at her invitation. I was supposed to stay for a week. She had wanted me to have rough sex (my words) with her and leave her with bruises to certain parts of her body and scratched up, bleeding nipples. She picked me up at 4 AM at the airport and was already quite drunk.

Although I am against drinking and driving, that is not the purpose of this post. We spent a few hours together and then she passed out. When I woke up she asked me to leave saying I had too many issues with my wife, whom I was separating from. I won't go into details of the weekend but I am glad that I didn't do what she had wanted me to (leave the bruises etc.)

When I got home I spent several days of intense research. She had lied to me about many things - who she worked for and who her boss was. It turned out that this woman's supervisor was Laurie Gemmell, the last person to see Mary Morris alive and the blonde who appeared live on the UM show. They both worked for IBM as IT computer trainers. They had both been staying in the same apartment until a few days before I arrived. Then this woman moved downstairs and Laurie Gemmell left for the weekend just before I showed up.

Of course I was highly suspicious of all this and she would not give me any explanations when I confronted her with my findings. Remember the death threat that was left on my desk, and I don't think the show even mentioned it, but there were supposed to have been a bunch of writing left in computers about my coworkers to make it look like I wrote it. So I figured this was just one more setup. The police from Florida told me that the woman had told them I had "just showed up out of the blue" (in Newfounland). I figured that because Mary Morris had been beaten up they were trying to conspire to make it appear that I was that type of person and could show the police bruises etc.

I was asked not to say anything at the time but afer a year and a half later I don't think it makes much difference to the case. I would not set myself up for libel either and I have something like 200 pages of instant messaging to prove everything I have said. I am not giving these out, although 48 Hours Mysteries has a copy.

I may be wrong about Gemmell's motives here. I do know that she either lied about me on the show and others or was greatly misinformed. I put it down to Gemmell, alone or Mike Morris and Gemmell in a conspiracy. They both had access to the clinic via Mary and her keys and both would have known about the family gun. If Mary had been afraid of me, which she was not, do you think she would call me and tell me she has a gun in her car? There's more to it but apparently I annoy some of you so I better not offend anyone.

It's been almost seven years since this happened and still no charges filed. Say what you will but I won't respond back.

For those that have no clue what I am talking about read the other threads.


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Sure man, sure....then your alarm clock woke you up

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Well, hello, Mr. Coworker!

Interesting. Very interesting, indeed.

[Koala]

Here is IBM's directory. Type in Gemmell and you will come up with Lauren and Laurie. Email her for the details. The last time I tried she called a lawyer who contacted me. She is not covered under any restraining order as she quit Union Carbide more than a month before Mary was murdered. She has put people through hell and back with no explanation other than "You make me sick" on this forum. Time for answers??? What she will do is not respond and then look again in a few days and she will have vanished from the directoree. She should have been fired. Here is the URL. If she is innocent so be it. The last person(s) standing will have to answer sometime.

http://www.ibm.com/contact/employees/us/

[SP4CE INV4DERZ]

Get the name right hey.
My comment was actually only for the first paragraph where you mention you had wild sex...with aliens or something?? Man I don't come here to read about sorta thing thanks.

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Speak for yourself, Space Invaderz!

Seriously, though. I'm with you on that comment. I didn't understnad WHO Koala is talking about... frankly, I still don't. It doesn't make any sense to me. Who's the kinky lady he was gonna knock boots with? Was it Mary Morris? Was it another co-worker?

*sigh* It's another unsolved mystery....

[SP4CE INV4DERZ]

Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Speak for yourself, Space Invaderz!

Whoa now, you're gonna get Dislimb all sexcited

[DJ_Foxx]

Uh...am I missing something here? Please enlighten the "slow" UM poster here.

[kamy]

Yikes! Enlighten me as well. I'm very confused!

[Koala]

Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

Speak for yourself, Space Invaderz!

Seriously, though. I'm with you on that comment. I didn't understnad WHO Koala is talking about... frankly, I still don't. It doesn't make any sense to me. Who's the kinky lady he was gonna knock boots with? Was it Mary Morris? Was it another co-worker?

*sigh* It's another unsolved mystery....

The person's alias on this UM forum was "freakmagnet". She was an active respondent on both the thread that was pulled and the locked thread that was posted in late fall of 2005.

The point I am trying to make is not about sex per se. It is about the requests to leave her with bruises etc. Not telling me the truth about who she worked for, not telling me about her connection with Laurie Gemmell, the blonde woman on the UM Mary Morris Murders segment who seems to always in my face, not wanting to tell me specifics of Gemmell's knowledge of our meeting or properly explaining anything when I found out. Freakmagnet did not have any involvement in a murder. She worked under Gemmell (indirectly). I wondered why all the deceipt once I found out that Gemmell and her worked and lived together when working.
Gemmell had worked for Union Carbide as an IT tech for the computer systems. Mary and I worked at Union Carbide (the Information technology side =IT)
Mary and Laurie Gemmell became close friends. They spent a lot of time together. She was at the home of Mike and Mary Morris often enough, my impression based on conversation with Mary, and that she was there for a birthday party at the same time I was. It was obvious that Gemmell and Mike Morris knew each other well. Things in the Morris household have been described as tense. I witnessed a bit of this myself.

Someone (allegedly) attempted to set me up for murder by leaving a death threat at my computer and putting notes in the computer or computers (I'm not sure about that - but in the last week of work Mary's computer had been used by someone else - the computer had been raised and the hard drive was removed by IT security people. Mary never told me her concern or the specifics and I never asked because it was the last time I saw her.

She apparently was very concerned because after the fact (she was dead) my coworker who worked at the other site nearby that Mary was shot had told me that Mary had told her (or them) that someone was trying to kill her.

She also told me about these notes that I was supposed to have written and left on a computer. I don't know if it was mine or Mary's but anyway all the drives were linked together from both sites. Incidentally, my RN coworker, Lana, was a bit late in telling me about these notes and when asked for details said she couldn't read it well because it was shredded. That is another puzzle but getting back to Gemmell-

Gemmell was not truthful to the media and I noticed from the beginning that there were inconsitencies in her stories and timelines. This may not have been her as the media people that interviewed her and then reported on some of the things may simply have been inaccurate. She did lie on UM, to the press and other reporters about me banging on windows and generally acting like a lunatic. She reported to the press that I had called the Houston Chronicle to say that I had called between the 2 Mary Morris Murders to tell them that the wrong Mary Morris had been killed.

When I found out about the connection between Gemmell and freakmagnet, of course I was suspicious. Not many people would go to all the trouble she did just to get laid. There are 2 options - she was involved with Gemmell (call it sucking up to the boss) to set me up once again so as to make the Mary Morris murder more credible that I did it and after we spent some time together she realized that I was a decent guy and didn't want to continue with anymore conspiracy ideas or the second one is she is just really selfish, just wanted to have sex and asked me to leave because Gemmell would be returning and see us together. If that is the case she went through a whole lot of trouble to get there and helped wreck my marriage. Incidentally, I was puzzled when she asked me to leave because her reason stated was you have "issues with your wife" and I asked her if I was bad in bed or something she replied "You're kidding, right?"

We did converse for awhile afterward and she wanted to meet with me again in another part of the world. When Freakmagnet would not cooperate with my questions about Gemmell I made her homelife a bit of hell by notifying her husband about all this and providing a few excerpts from our instant messageing. Apparently, freakmagnet was also deceitful to her husband.

I called Gemmell to ask her about all this and she hung up immediately and would not answer my email about what was going on with all this.

So I let things go for a year and a half decided that people like Gemmell need to be accountable for their actions and lies. I know full well that the right people will be asking her some more questions and she may just continue on her slippery slope of deceit. I don't feel too bad about saying what I say here as it is the truth. She had plenty of time to find out facts about me if she had wanted to but chose to go on with interview after interview with BS.

Gemmell refused an explanation of her involvement with freakmagnet when she could just as easily have said I knew nothing about it.

My coworkers said that Mary treated Laurie "like a dog". I didn't notice anything like that myself but I was only around them once or twice. She was the last person with Mary and her timelines didn't add up on the media accounts. Maybe that is not her fault. Maybe she has nothing to do with murder. All I know is she appears to have gone through a lot of effort to implicate me at every opportunity and media event - far more than just been misinformed by things Mary had apparently told her. If Mary had suspected me of anything she would have called my contracting company. She apparently knew that someone was out to do her in according to my coworkers.

[DJ_Foxx]

I gotta watch this seggie again. But from what my small mind is able to gather, is that possibly Mary's boss (the blonde chick from the segment) and Mary's husband may have been in cahoots to kill Mary?????



Fascinating.....

[Koala]

Laurie Gemmell was not Mary Morris' boss. Mary Morris was the Occupational health nursing supervisor for Union Carbide's Information technologies division. Mary was my supervisor and the supervisor of others. Laurie Gemmel worked in IT as an IT (computer steups, servers, you name it) at the site where Mary mostly worked. Laurie Gemmell is the blonde woman who appeared as herself on the Mary Morris Murders UM episode. Mary and Gemmell became close friends and spent much time together. Gemmell quit union carbide about a month or so before Mary was shot in the head to work somewhere else. She had met Mary at the clinic (even though she no longer worked there) for what the media reported as a flu shot. Actually, it was an anti allergy injection. This was 2 or 3 hours before Mary was shot. They were supposed to meet again later. Media reports were conflicting saying that Gemmell had called police to say that Mary had not shown up. Other reports suggest Mike Morris called in to say his wife was missing. If you study the phone bill neither one seems credible as there should be more calls by both on the bill. If Mary's phone didn't get picked up it went automatiacally to voice mail. Look for yourselves. there should be more calls made and indicated on a bill even if it went to voice mail. Anyone concerned enough to report persons missing would make more attempts to call. It appears a poorly planned slip up in a murder conspiracy. I called Mary plenty and it always went to voice mail if she was on the phone or unavailable. It never rang for 4 minutes. If it did I don't think it would register as an incoming call but I don't know that for certain.

Laurie Gemmell supervised freakmagnet at times with IBM, although I found out at the time of all this research in January and February of 2006 that freakmagnet officially reported to another person also. In effect, Laurie Gemmell was freakmagnet's senior or supervisor.

And yes, I am saying that Laurie Gemmell (alone) or Mike Morris and Laurie Gemmell together in a conspiracy may have beem responsible for Mary Morris' death. Either that, or neither of them are guilty of anything and were just helping the police by following a script on all of the TV shows and media events. I don't believe the latter very much based on all events that I know of.

I only know what I know and I believe it to be the tip of the iceberg. I am on a need to know basis only and most of what I have observed or found out has been through research and talking to people. I couldn't do much because a restraining order was brought forth very early on after Mary's death. that I could not speak with anyone working for Union Carbide or later Dow Chemical company for life. Although the reasons sited for the restraing order were that I had killed and would kill again I beleived the real reason was that the police did not want me interfering with their investigations and jeopardizing things for them so I signed.

If anyone is confused about details just do a search on this UM forum with the words Mary Morris Or Google it. There is more under Mary Mcginnis Morris, Mary Morris Murders (there were 2 at around the same time (3 days apart) that lead to a hit man getting the wrong Mary Morris theories, 2 Mary Murders etc.

[kamy]

Koala, just to clarify things, what was your relationship to the Mary Morris case? The first post confused me because you seemed to be quoting Mr. Space (perhaps SpaceInvaderz or Space Cadet, a member?) and/or Justins5256 perhaps? Just briefly clear this up for me. Thanks!

[Koala]

I am the coworker sited on the Unsolved mysteries show featuring the 2 Mary Morris murders. And no - there were not problems from the start. I was described as her Golden Boy from what my coworkers told me. and Yes, I did have complaints about her behavior toward my coworkers and myself which I spoke to the Human Resources manager about, 2 or 3 weeks before she was killed. Mary had some personality issues but overall she was a very fine person who went out of her way to care for others needs.

My other coworker RN had told me that she went home crying often following discussions with Mary and not getting recognition. For example, I was given permission by Mary to dispense OTC meds to employees very early. The other RN, Lana, never was even though she started a year before me. I worked at one site 2 days a week with Mary. The other 2 employees worked with Mary 3 days a week at the North Houston site. Lana started to take every Wednesday off with the excuse that she had to do banking in Mcallen, TX which is a 5 hour drive away. She admitted to me that the real reason was she wanted to limit the time she had to be around Mary. I had some issues about passing the buck in our work relations and reported the evidence to the HR manager and told him about my coworkers' reports. Eveything else negative about me on that UM show or any other is a lie. When America's Most Wanted did a show on the Mary Morris Murder(s) I called their attorney and threatened legal action if it wasn't removed from their website. It came down immediately. I have never seen the show and if anyone has a copy I would like to see it. Friends reported it as portraying me a nut case running around and yelling and banging on windows looking for Mary.

[kamy]

So you are the co-worker that was supposedly one of the suspects and supposedly ransacked her office?

[Koala]

Originally Posted by kamy

So you are the co-worker that was supposedly one of the suspects and supposedly ransacked her office?

Ransacked her office??? What show did you watch? I know nothing of a ransacked office by anyone.

The only thing I could offer is that I was told by my RN coworker that some of the office file drawers for patient documentation were opened (I'm not sure if she said they were open or not) and that it looked as if Mary was trying to address the problems that she had not been documenting many of her patient contacts. I also showed the HR manager this feature on my last day of work as it had caused some problems. One of the reasons Mary and I went for a tour on my last week at work was to immunize the children of a family that was going to the Phillipines to work for Union Carbide. The husband was going to work, not the kids. I was supposed to be doing it myself but told Mary that I wouldn't because she could not come up with the documentation for the previous immunizations and I considered it unsafe in case the child in question recived too much of whatever we were immunizing for. I think it was hepA/hepB but it was a long time ago. As non documentation was turning into a liabilty I reported it. It's what responsible nurses are supposed to do. Anyway, the coworker told me that it looked like Mary had been trying to (frantically) work on documentation that was outstanding because, according to the other RN, the files were going to be audited the next day.

This was at the other Little York site to the north. It was not described as ransacked to me and I did not get that impression from her- Just a bunch of files kind of pulled out and not put back in properly was the image I had in my mind. I don't know if the other RN - Lana is her name, saw this for herself or was told this by the Dr. who took over when Mary died. I would think it would have been the Dr. telling her this because I don't think Lana would have been able to be on scene. I beleive all work areas were cordoned off by police and only certain people would have been allowed in for investigation reasons. The murder scene was not the clinic but according to Lana the clinic was closed for police business for some time. That is my recollection of our conversations, anyway.