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Old 05-24-2007, 03:47 PM   #1
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I'm trying to find out the name of the song that Ralph is trying to play. He tries to hit the high note. It seemed like he did hit it, by mistake. Lol! Then, at the end, he couldn't hit it. Does anyone know how well he could play the trumpet, or any other instruments?
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What a nice pic of Jackie. When was it taken?
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I'm trying to find out the name of the song that Ralph is trying to play. He tries to hit the high note. It seemed like he did hit it, by mistake. Lol! Then, at the end, he couldn't hit it. Does anyone know how well he could play the trumpet, or any other instruments?
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The song he is trying to play is "Carnival of Venice," by Jean Baptiste Arban, which is a virtuoso piece in the trumpet repertoire.(Arban's trumpet method is considered the "bible" of the instrument.) Initially the theme is played, followed by a number of variations on the theme.

As for Gleason's ability to play, there is a clip that was shown of Gleason with Louis Armstrong on the special, Jackie Gleason: The Great One. IIRC, Teri Garr alluded to the old vaudeville trick of placing a trumpet player behind the curtain while Gleason pantomimed playing. I haven't looked at the clip in some time, but I seem to remember him trying to play some valve combinations that did not match what was being played.
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What a nice pic of Jackie. When was it taken?
I'm not sure. I must have found it somewhere on the net. I would think that he probably in his late teens or early 20's though.
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The song he is trying to play is "Carnival of Venice," by Jean Baptiste Arban, which is a virtuoso piece in the trumpet repertoire.(Arban's trumpet method is considered the "bible" of the instrument.) Initially the theme is played, followed by a number of variations on the theme.

As for Gleason's ability to play, there is a clip that was shown of Gleason with Louis Armstrong on the special, Jackie Gleason: The Great One. IIRC, Teri Garr alluded to the old vaudeville trick of placing a trumpet player behind the curtain while Gleason pantomimed playing. I haven't looked at the clip in some time, but I seem to remember him trying to play some valve combinations that did not match what was being played.
Wow! I couldn't have asked for a better answer than that. Now I'll see if I can find the sheet music. As far as the special, I have never seen that one. I hope to one day. I guess it's hard to pick up on some of this stuff if you don't play the horn. Many thanks for your response.
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Jackie knew enough about notes on an instrument to "get by", but not maybe enough to play a solo.....as he does here with Sammy Spear. They would play together a few times during the run of "American Scene Magazine".
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Actually, I'd date that pic on the top as sometime around the 1940's.
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I have the Classic 39 on DVD. The DVDs are available in CC. When Ed plays the bugle, it says (plays reveille.)

The CC was done by Paramount. But considerating that MrBand says otherwise, I am thinking that Paramount made a mistake.
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I have the Classic 39 on DVD. The DVDs are available in CC. When Ed plays the bugle, it says (plays reveille.)

The CC was done by Paramount. But considerating that MrBand says otherwise, I am thinking that Paramount made a mistake.

Norton does indeed play Reveille, but curiously the CC on my DVD has no caption when he plays.

As for Paramount making mistakes, the DVD case lists the original broadcast date as 1955 instead of 1956, so they are indeed capable of the occasion error.
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