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studd911 · 04-01-2007, 04:01 PM

hey hd2 fans, i am shocked about what i heard about season 2 having the rock around the clock theme changed to season 3, its weired, i guess paramount has been lying to me all of this time because when i called and asked them did they have all of the music rights, they told me that all of the original music was intact, even my friend called them up and they told him the same thing,why would they lie, hey i am not worried about the deleted scenes because i no that everything that was cut in syndication will be on there, but if the music is from what we have heard on syndication, i no for a fact that allot hd fans including me will b pissed and we can forget seeing season 3 especially if season does not sell, and asfor the music change i hope its not from the syndication version, because if thats the case then they should have not gon on with the released, because they no that the fans will complain who knows we will have to see what happens

TVFactFan · 04-01-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studd911

hey hd2 fans, i am shocked about what i heard about season 2 having the rock around the clock theme changed to season 3, its weired, i guess paramount has been lying to me all of this time because when i called and asked them did they have all of the music rights, they told me that all of the original music was intact, even my friend called them up and they told him the same thing,why would they lie, hey i am not worried about the deleted scenes because i no that everything that was cut in syndication will be on there, but if the music is from what we have heard on syndication, i no for a fact that allot hd fans including me will b pissed and we can forget seeing season 3 especially if season does not sell, and asfor the music change i hope its not from the syndication version, because if thats the case then they should have not gon on with the released, because they no that the fans will complain who knows we will have to see what happens

Even though it's weird to have the season 3 theme with season 2 eps, it's not that big of a deal just be happy that another season was released with UNEDITED eps. I just cant imagine how it will look to see the season 2 opening with season 3 music.

Pavan · 04-01-2007, 04:12 PM

Solomon, it is not just the theme that has been replaced. Other songs used in the actual episodes also will be replaced. Does anyone have a list of actual songs and a list of songs that syndication uses for Season 2, so we can compare?

And I hope actual scenes were not edited out because of the music replacement. CBS DVD actually edited out scenes from the Family Ties S1 DVD because of music. Cheap.

studd911 · 04-01-2007, 04:22 PM

if this is what we have waited for, then it does ot make sense to by season 2, and we can forget seeing season 3 especially is season is not edited, i am pissed off at paramount, they no that they are going to get allot of flack for this, mybe somebody should call there home entertainment to find out if its trie 1-323956-5000 good luck

anglemark10 · 04-01-2007, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavanbadal

Does anyone have a list of actual songs and a list of songs that syndication uses for Season 2, so we can compare?

I don't have a list of the actual songs heard in the ABC airings, but I do have lists for the syndicated TV Land airings. They may not be 100 percent complete, but they're pretty darn close. Here they are (the songs for each episode should be in the order they are heard in that particular episode):

"Richie Moves Out"
1. "Yakety Yak" by the Coasters
2. replacement
3. "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley
4. "Earth Angel" by the Penguins
5. replacement
6. "Wheel of Fortune" by Kay Starr

"Richie's Car"
1. "Secret Love" by Doris Day
2. replacement

"Who's Sorry Now?"
1. replacement
2. unknown instrumental in flashback
3. replacement in flashback
4. unknown instrumental in flashback
5. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin
6. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
7. "Lipstick On Your Collar" by Connie Francis
8. "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley

"You Go to My Head"
1. "I'm Walkin'" by Fats Domino
2. "Perfidia" by The Ventures

"ROTC"
1. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
2. "Who's Sorry Now" by Connie Francis

"Haunted"
1. "I'm Walkin'" by Fats Domino
2. replacement
3. replacement
4. replacement
5. "My Prayer" by the Platters
6. unknown instrumental

"Wish Upon a Star"
1. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts
2. "Hound Dog"(instrumental) by Elvis Presley
3. unknown instrumental
4. replacement
5. replacement
6. "Love Me Tender" (instrumental) by Elvis Presley
7. "Earth Angel" by the Penguins
8. "Mona Lisa" (instrumental) by Nat King Cole

"Not with My Sister, You Don't"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
2. replacement
3. "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley

"Big Money"
1. an unknown instrumental
2. "Pretend" by Nat King Cole

"A Star Is Bored"
1. "Cry" by Johnnie Ray
2. "Yakety Yak" by the Coasters

"Guess Who's Coming to Christmas"
1. "Jingle Bell Rock" by Bobby Helms
2. replacement

"Open House"
1. "See You Later Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets
2. "My Prayer" by the Platters

"Fonzie's Getting Married"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino

"The Cunningham Caper"
none

"The Not Making of the President"
1. replacement
2. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts

"Cruisin'"
1. replacement
2. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
3. "Ricochet" (instrumental) by Teresa Brewer

"The Howdy Doody Show"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
2. replacement

"Get a Job"
1. "Wheel of Fortune" by Kay Starr

"Fonzie Joins the Band"
1. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin (played twice by the band)
2. "I'm Walkin'" (instrumental) by Fats Domino (played by the band)
3. replacement
4. "My Prayer" (instrumental) by the Platters (played by the band)
5. "Perfidia" by the Ventures (played by the band)

"Fish and the Fins"
1. "Young Blood" by the Coasters (played twice by the Fins)
2. "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley
3. "Ricochet" by Teresa Brewer

"Richie's Flip Side"
1. replacement (heard twice)
2. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts
3. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin (heard twice)
4. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
5. "See You Later Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets
6. replacement

"Kiss Me Sickly"
1. "Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)" by Doris Day
2. replacement
3. "Who's Sorry Now" by Connie Francis
4. "Cry" by Johnnie Ray

"Goin' to Chicago"
none

Pavan · 04-01-2007, 11:34 PM

anglemark10: Thank you very much. That will help!

anglemark10 · 04-02-2007, 09:40 AM

You're welcome. Glad to help.

faraj · 04-03-2007, 12:42 AM

I hate copyright laws.

Robert 13 · 04-03-2007, 09:53 AM

That's interesting. I watched a couple of L&S episodes last night from the Season One dvd and there were 2 songs "I'm Walkin'" and "Mona Lisa". So, they cleared music rights on Season 1 but they won't do it for Season 2??? I guess that's why they labeled the first set "The Complete First Season" but have shortened to "The Second Season" for the second sets. It seemed odd to me when they were announced months ago.

faraj · 04-03-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anglemark10

I don't have a list of the actual songs heard in the ABC airings, but I do have lists for the syndicated TV Land airings. They may not be 100 percent complete, but they're pretty darn close. Here they are (the songs for each episode should be in the order they are heard in that particular episode):

"Richie Moves Out"
1. "Yakety Yak" by the Coasters
2. replacement
3. "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley
4. "Earth Angel" by the Penguins
5. replacement
6. "Wheel of Fortune" by Kay Starr

"Richie's Car"
1. "Secret Love" by Doris Day
2. replacement

"Who's Sorry Now?"
1. replacement
2. unknown instrumental in flashback
3. replacement in flashback
4. unknown instrumental in flashback
5. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin
6. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
7. "Lipstick On Your Collar" by Connie Francis
8. "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley

"You Go to My Head"
1. "I'm Walkin'" by Fats Domino
2. "Perfidia" by The Ventures

"ROTC"
1. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
2. "Who's Sorry Now" by Connie Francis

"Haunted"
1. "I'm Walkin'" by Fats Domino
2. replacement
3. replacement
4. replacement
5. "My Prayer" by the Platters
6. unknown instrumental

"Wish Upon a Star"
1. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts
2. "Hound Dog"(instrumental) by Elvis Presley
3. unknown instrumental
4. replacement
5. replacement
6. "Love Me Tender" (instrumental) by Elvis Presley
7. "Earth Angel" by the Penguins
8. "Mona Lisa" (instrumental) by Nat King Cole

"Not with My Sister, You Don't"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
2. replacement
3. "Love Me Tender" by Elvis Presley

"Big Money"
1. an unknown instrumental
2. "Pretend" by Nat King Cole

"A Star Is Bored"
1. "Cry" by Johnnie Ray
2. "Yakety Yak" by the Coasters

"Guess Who's Coming to Christmas"
1. "Jingle Bell Rock" by Bobby Helms
2. replacement

"Open House"
1. "See You Later Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets
2. "My Prayer" by the Platters

"Fonzie's Getting Married"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino

"The Cunningham Caper"
none

"The Not Making of the President"
1. replacement
2. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts

"Cruisin'"
1. replacement
2. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
3. "Ricochet" (instrumental) by Teresa Brewer

"The Howdy Doody Show"
1. "Blueberry Hill" by Fats Domino
2. replacement

"Get a Job"
1. "Wheel of Fortune" by Kay Starr

"Fonzie Joins the Band"
1. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin (played twice by the band)
2. "I'm Walkin'" (instrumental) by Fats Domino (played by the band)
3. replacement
4. "My Prayer" (instrumental) by the Platters (played by the band)
5. "Perfidia" by the Ventures (played by the band)

"Fish and the Fins"
1. "Young Blood" by the Coasters (played twice by the Fins)
2. "Hound Dog" by Elvis Presley
3. "Ricochet" by Teresa Brewer

"Richie's Flip Side"
1. replacement (heard twice)
2. "Sh-Boom" by the Crew Cuts
3. "Splish Splash" by Bobby Darin (heard twice)
4. "Little Darlin'" by the Diamonds
5. "See You Later Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets
6. replacement

"Kiss Me Sickly"
1. "Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)" by Doris Day
2. replacement
3. "Who's Sorry Now" by Connie Francis
4. "Cry" by Johnnie Ray

"Goin' to Chicago"
none

ROTC also had "My Prayer" by the Platters in the final tag scene that has been left out on syndication for years. It's the part where Potsie walks into Arnold', saying, "Guess who's the new ROTC squad leader. Ten Hut!" Then Richie says, "Now we know who not to talk to." Then he and Ralph walked out, leaving Potsie behind to eat their sundaes. I was looking forward to that deleted ROTC scene, and I've been counting on seeing that part on the S2 DVD set. But after hearing about this stupid music alteration, now I'm not too sure, and I have a feeling that we're all in for a disappointment. On the other hand, maybe the music alteration won't necessarily affect the editing on the scenes. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

studd911 · 04-04-2007, 04:46 PM

i am a bit worried it looks like paramount pictures has let us down, i thought that the got all of the music rights clearence that was what i was told when i called paramount home video, the people that i spoke with had typed the info in to there computer and they said that all of the music was there, but there has ben a sourch change what ever that means, i no paramount would not lie to there fans, because they no that we have waited to lone for the show t be not in its original form, i hope that what ever music was changed it will not be from the syndication version because if thats the case season 2 will be just like season not selling well and we cn forget seeing season 3 and the rest of the series, lets up that the rumors was false because the person that i spoke with told me that they got the music rights we will have to waite and see

Pavan · 04-04-2007, 05:49 PM

studd911: This is no rumor. We know for a fact there are music replacements. The theme song is is even replaced by the season three one. Wait for our review and you'll see. TJ is reviewing it.

wayne · 04-05-2007, 03:36 PM

I just hope they show all of the episodes and not just the 20 minute versions we have seen on TV. Its dumb to have 10 minutes of commercials.

spanky1 · 04-06-2007, 01:56 PM

What year is Season 2 set? I noticed the song Perfidia by the Ventures, but that didn't come out until 1961. I remember the election episode(Ike vs. Adlai), but don't recall the season?

faraj · 04-06-2007, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky1

What year is Season 2 set? I noticed the song Perfidia by the Ventures, but that didn't come out until 1961. I remember the election episode(Ike vs. Adlai), but don't recall the season?

1956, I believe.

04-01-2007, 04:01 PM	#1
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	I am shocked about hd2 on dvd I thought the dvd 2 would have everything I guess I was hey hd2 fans, i am shocked about what i heard about season 2 having the rock around the clock theme changed to season 3, its weired, i guess paramount has been lying to me all of this time because when i called and asked them did they have all of the music rights, they told me that all of the original music was intact, even my friend called them up and they told him the same thing,why would they lie, hey i am not worried about the deleted scenes because i no that everything that was cut in syndication will be on there, but if the music is from what we have heard on syndication, i no for a fact that allot hd fans including me will b pissed and we can forget seeing season 3 especially if season does not sell, and asfor the music change i hope its not from the syndication version, because if thats the case then they should have not gon on with the released, because they no that the fans will complain who knows we will have to see what happens

04-01-2007, 04:12 PM	#3
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	Solomon, it is not just the theme that has been replaced. Other songs used in the actual episodes also will be replaced. Does anyone have a list of actual songs and a list of songs that syndication uses for Season 2, so we can compare? And I hope actual scenes were not edited out because of the music replacement. CBS DVD actually edited out scenes from the Family Ties S1 DVD because of music. Cheap.
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04-03-2007, 12:42 AM	#8
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04-05-2007, 03:36 PM	#13
wayne Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 03, 2000 Location: portland Oregon, Inspiration Point Posts: 1,047	I just hope they show all of the episodes and not just the 20 minute versions we have seen on TV. Its dumb to have 10 minutes of commercials.
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04-06-2007, 01:56 PM	#14
spanky1 Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jan 21, 2005 Posts: 2	What year is S2 set? What year is Season 2 set? I noticed the song Perfidia by the Ventures, but that didn't come out until 1961. I remember the election episode(Ike vs. Adlai), but don't recall the season?

04-01-2007, 04:22 PM	#4
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	if this is what we have waited for, then it does ot make sense to by season 2, and we can forget seeing season 3 especially is season is not edited, i am pissed off at paramount, they no that they are going to get allot of flack for this, mybe somebody should call there home entertainment to find out if its trie 1-323956-5000 good luck

04-01-2007, 11:34 PM	#6
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	anglemark10: Thank you very much. That will help!

04-02-2007, 09:40 AM	#7
anglemark10 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 06, 2004 Location: United States Posts: 787	You're welcome. Glad to help.

04-03-2007, 09:53 AM	#9
Robert 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,521	That's interesting. I watched a couple of L&S episodes last night from the Season One dvd and there were 2 songs "I'm Walkin'" and "Mona Lisa". So, they cleared music rights on Season 1 but they won't do it for Season 2??? I guess that's why they labeled the first set "The Complete First Season" but have shortened to "The Second Season" for the second sets. It seemed odd to me when they were announced months ago.

04-04-2007, 04:46 PM	#11
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	i am a bit worried it looks like paramount pictures has let us down, i thought that the got all of the music rights clearence that was what i was told when i called paramount home video, the people that i spoke with had typed the info in to there computer and they said that all of the music was there, but there has ben a sourch change what ever that means, i no paramount would not lie to there fans, because they no that we have waited to lone for the show t be not in its original form, i hope that what ever music was changed it will not be from the syndication version because if thats the case season 2 will be just like season not selling well and we cn forget seeing season 3 and the rest of the series, lets up that the rumors was false because the person that i spoke with told me that they got the music rights we will have to waite and see

04-04-2007, 05:49 PM	#12
Pavan SO News/Reviews Director Administrator Forum Superstar Join Date: Feb 17, 2000 Location: Linden, NJ (Where Hal Linden got his last name from!) Posts: 26,821	studd911: This is no rumor. We know for a fact there are music replacements. The theme song is is even replaced by the season three one. Wait for our review and you'll see. TJ is reviewing it.