1973 Compared To 2007

[Fleet]

I found this (of all places) on a car message board...
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/in...?topic=31352.0

Here is a sample:
Scenario: Jeffrey won't sit still in class and disturbs other students.

1973- Jeffrey is sent to the Principal's office and given a good talking-to. Subsequently, he sits still in class.

2007- Jeffrey is given substantial doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. School gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

[Max Whittaker]

Sounds about right. Quick fix, drugged society, that's what it is.

Lovely.

[Chelsea]

Originally Posted by Fleet

1973- Jeffrey is sent to the Principal's office and given a good talking-to. Subsequently, he sits still in class.

2007-

Actually, in 2007, Jeffrey is still sent to the Principla's office. The principal is busy filling out all the state forms in quadruplicate while worry about the school's scores on the state standarized tests - the results of which determine the school's funding. So the principal turns Jeffrey over to the assistant principal. The asst. principal gives Jeffrey a good talking to. Jeffrey turns around, goes home and complains that the assistant principal was harrasing him and infringing on his rights, and the next day the family's attorney files a lawsuit against the school.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Max Whittaker

Sounds about right. Quick fix, drugged society, that's what it is.

Lovely.

Yeah, too bad it is that way now.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Dr. Bullfish

Actually, in 2007, Jeffrey is still sent to the Principla's office. The principal is busy filling out all the state forms in quadruplicate while worry about the school's scores on the state standarized tests - the results of which determine the school's funding. So the principal turns Jeffrey over to the assistant principal. The asst. principal gives Jeffrey a good talking to. Jeffrey turns around, goes home and complains that the assistant principal was harrasing him and infringing on his rights, and the next day the family's attorney files a lawsuit against the school.

Right. That's another likely scenario.

[retrochick9]

Originally Posted by Dr. Bullfish

Actually, in 2007, Jeffrey is still sent to the Principla's office. The principal is busy filling out all the state forms in quadruplicate while worry about the school's scores on the state standarized tests - the results of which determine the school's funding. So the principal turns Jeffrey over to the assistant principal. The asst. principal gives Jeffrey a good talking to. Jeffrey turns around, goes home and complains that the assistant principal was harrasing him and infringing on his rights, and the next day the family's attorney files a lawsuit against the school.

SAD, BUT TRUE!!!

[*Pleasant Tomorrow*]

[dawsongirl]

Originally Posted by Fleet

School gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

pissed: My school makes us fill out these %@!#& Medicaid sheets for our disabled kids. However, are we, the associates who change their damn diapers (in a public school...changing diapers...give me a break), follow them everywhere they go, get their food, feed them, etc, see any of this money?? NO. Crock-of-****.


And I will go on topic as saying that some kids do need drugs. If adults spend their entire day yelling at them to sit still, pay attention, stop talking...if trip and trip to the principal don't work...if their grades are crap because they can't focus on one thing for more than 3 seconds.....trust me, they need drugs. Or they need to give us adults that work with them drugs, because many a day I have wanted to pull my hair out and strangle kids like that. Terrible, but work with them for a year...you'll understand.

[dawsongirl]

oh yeah, and whatever happened to 1957...where the teacher could either hit little Jeffrey's butt with a ruler, or send him home to dad and Jeffrey would get the disrespecting lesson from dad's belt? Nowadays, teachers have to have special training on how to touch children and parents don't do anything.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by dawsongirl

And I will go on topic as saying that some kids do need drugs. If adults spend their entire day yelling at them to sit still, pay attention, stop talking...if trip and trip to the principal don't work...if their grades are crap because they can't focus on one thing for more than 3 seconds.....trust me, they need drugs. Or they need to give us adults that work with them drugs, because many a day I have wanted to pull my hair out and strangle kids like that. Terrible, but work with them for a year...you'll understand.

Really? They didn't need drugs 30 or 40 years ago. If their grades are bad, they may try improving them the old-fashioned way- study more!

[dawsongirl]

I'm talking lower elementary here. Study more isn't so much an option.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by dawsongirl

I'm talking lower elementary here. Study more isn't so much an option.

But you do agree that it is best to use traditional methods before resorting to drugs which in many cases causes more problems than it solves?
And who would want to use drugs for lower elementary students in the first place? Studying is always an option, no matter what the the grade.

[dawsongirl]

Well of course you try things before drugs. But the kids I'm referencing have been the route of traditional methods, even some non-traditional ones from a school psychologist that any dummy a mile away could tell won't work. A really think something could help. Maybe not Ritilin, but something.