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Ireneparalegal · 02-24-2007, 03:14 PM

It seems that only you and I are the only ones who are following this so I directed my thread at you...just heard breaking news on MSNBC and FOX NEWS that Birkhead will file kidnap charges if Bahamian judge doesn't issue DNA test request immediately.

This story couldn't be made up in Hollywood, even by the best writers...

Janice · 02-24-2007, 03:30 PM

Yikes Irene, this story gets more bizarre with every passing day.

As far as kidnapping charges, I don't think Larry's got a leg to stand on. Until proven otherwise, Howard is listed on Dannilynne's birth certificate. I really wish they would order the DNA test asap. She's almost six months old now. She needs to bond with her permanent parent. I wouldn't be surprised if she misses her mother, you know? You think? How can a baby go from having the constant love of a mother one minute, then she's GONE, just like that.

Ireneparalegal · 02-24-2007, 04:06 PM

I don't think he does either. I mean, you have to prove you are a parent to a child to file a kidnapping charge. He hasn't been proven yet, though I think more than likely he is. I will really drop my jaw if Howard and Larry are proven NOT THE FATHER. That would be a real twist!

Jo_Luvs_Ketchup · 02-24-2007, 04:57 PM

Oh wow.

I was watching a special on E! last night on Anna Nicole Smith and I couldn't believe everything that's happened the last few days. Unfortunately there will most likely be a movie made. They said Hollywood can't make up things like this, which is true. This is a complete mess!

Brian Damage · 02-24-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I will really drop my jaw if Howard and Larry are proven NOT THE FATHER. That would be a real twist!

Somehow, I really get a feeling that is going to be the case.

Corolla · 02-24-2007, 05:30 PM

Huh? I don't really understand what's happening with this whole thing...

Mr. Cranky · 02-24-2007, 06:17 PM

Little Mel made a good point recently. That baby is the stamp of Birkhead.

80sTrivia · 02-24-2007, 07:50 PM

It truly is such a tragic story all the way around... I feel horribly for Anna's little girl... thank heaven's she too young to understand the insanity that surrounds her...

Liza · 02-24-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

It seems that only you and I are the only ones who are following this so I directed my thread at you...

Well that definately ain't the case. It looks like a lot of us are watching it.

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

just heard breaking news on MSNBC and FOX NEWS that Birkhead will file kidnap charges if Bahamian judge doesn't issue DNA test request immediately.

This story couldn't be made up in Hollywood, even by the best writers...

I don't blame Birkhead. I think that baby really is his, and Stern really is kidnapping him. It's just gonna be a matter of proving it that'll be the problem.

Ireneparalegal · 02-24-2007, 10:27 PM

The thing that came to me today is that the child is a citizen of the Bahamas. She was born there. Her mother is Anna Nicole. No doubt there. She didn't kidnap this child. She bore this child there. She is not a kidnap victim. Also, Birkhead has yet to be proven to be the father, so he cannot file a kidnapping case against a VALID CITIZEN. My assumption, since I don't know the law in the Bahamas, but from what has been said, that child is the legal child of the man who signs the birth certificate. So, in essence, Larry can't file kidnap charges even if he is proven the father.

Janice · 02-24-2007, 10:50 PM

Irene, I'm ready to be proven wrong on this, but on tv the other day, one of the legal eagle talking heads stated that the baby is an American citizen. I know I heard correctly, but it's possible that the lawyer had wrong information.

Ireneparalegal · 02-24-2007, 10:54 PM

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Irene, I'm ready to be proven wrong on this, but on tv the other day, one of the legal eagle talking heads stated that the baby is an American citizen. I know I heard correctly, but it's possible that the lawyer had wrong information.

Really? They said that? Every other person (legal and not) has stated the baby is a Bahamian citizen. Now, again, I don't know the Bahamian laws, but what has been stated over and over again is that Dannielynn is a citizen of the Bahamas since she was obviously born there. You know how there countries that automatically make someone a citizen of that country if they marry a citizen of that particular country? Well, I am wondering if Dannielynn is considered Bahamian and an American Citizen since she was born there and her mother was an American citizen. I will have to look into this, but this is the first I have heard of Dannielynn being an American citizen.

Liza · 02-24-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

The thing that came to me today is that the child is a citizen of the Bahamas. She was born there. Her mother is Anna Nicole. No doubt there. She didn't kidnap this child. She bore this child there. She is not a kidnap victim. Also, Birkhead has yet to be proven to be the father, so he cannot file a kidnapping case against a VALID CITIZEN. My assumption, since I don't know the law in the Bahamas, but from what has been said, that child is the legal child of the man who signs the birth certificate. So, in essence, Larry can't file kidnap charges even if he is proven the father.

Of course Anna didn't kidnap the child, no one thinks that. But if Larry is the father, I can see where it seems like kidnapping. Legal kidnapping, but kidnapping. If it's his daughter, the baby is being held outside of the country without his permission. Anna and Howard thought the whole thing through beforehand - and unfortunately, it looks like they did a good job. Birkhead's got a real tough fight here.

Liza · 02-24-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Really? They said that? Every other person (legal and not) has stated the baby is a Bahamian citizen. Now, again, I don't know the Bahamian laws, but what has been stated over and over again is that Dannielynn is a citizen of the Bahamas since she was obviously born there. You know how there countries that automatically make someone a citizen of that country if they marry a citizen of that particular country? Well, I am wondering if Dannielynn is considered Bahamian and an American Citizen since she was born there and her mother was an American citizen. I will have to look into this, but this is the first I have heard of Dannielynn being an American citizen.

Since both her parents are American (assuming it's either Stern or Berkhead), she would be an American citizen. There's probably more paperwork they need to do, since she was born overseas, but she's an American. She was probably also granted Bahamian citizen because she was born there. Americans have children overseas all the time, and their kids are still citizens.

Ireneparalegal · 02-24-2007, 11:16 PM

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Of course Anna didn't kidnap the child, no one thinks that. But if Larry is the father, I can see where it seems like kidnapping. Legal kidnapping, but kidnapping. If it's his daughter, the baby is being held outside of the country without his permission. Anna and Howard thought the whole thing through beforehand - and unfortunately, it looks like they did a good job. Birkhead's got a real tough fight here.

It's only kidnapping if he was already proven the father. He hasn't been proven to be the biological father, so he has a tough fight trying to file kidnap charges. If he was PROVEN the father before, and Anna had not died, this would be ludicrous. Because Anna and Larry were not married, she would have the right to live anywhere she wanted...granted he would fight for legal and some physical custody, but he can't file for kidnapping charges simply because she moved out of the country. Unless there is a FILED DOCUMENT IN A UNITED STATES COURT, that he shares physical and legal custody of the child, Anna could pretty much have lived wherever she wanted. A court order pertaining to custody issues has to exist. None exists here.

02-24-2007, 03:14 PM	#1
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02-24-2007, 03:30 PM	#2
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Yikes Irene, this story gets more bizarre with every passing day. As far as kidnapping charges, I don't think Larry's got a leg to stand on. Until proven otherwise, Howard is listed on Dannilynne's birth certificate. I really wish they would order the DNA test asap. She's almost six months old now. She needs to bond with her permanent parent. I wouldn't be surprised if she misses her mother, you know? You think? How can a baby go from having the constant love of a mother one minute, then she's GONE, just like that.

02-24-2007, 04:06 PM	#3
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,689	I don't think he does either. I mean, you have to prove you are a parent to a child to file a kidnapping charge. He hasn't been proven yet, though I think more than likely he is. I will really drop my jaw if Howard and Larry are proven NOT THE FATHER. That would be a real twist!

02-24-2007, 04:57 PM	#4
Jo_Luvs_Ketchup Member Eternal Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 09, 2003 Posts: 4,195	Oh wow. I was watching a special on E! last night on Anna Nicole Smith and I couldn't believe everything that's happened the last few days. Unfortunately there will most likely be a movie made. They said Hollywood can't make up things like this, which is true. This is a complete mess!

02-24-2007, 05:30 PM	#6
Corolla Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 21, 2006 Location: Owen Sound, ON Posts: 2,376	Huh? I don't really understand what's happening with this whole thing...

02-24-2007, 10:27 PM	#10
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,689	The thing that came to me today is that the child is a citizen of the Bahamas. She was born there. Her mother is Anna Nicole. No doubt there. She didn't kidnap this child. She bore this child there. She is not a kidnap victim. Also, Birkhead has yet to be proven to be the father, so he cannot file a kidnapping case against a VALID CITIZEN. My assumption, since I don't know the law in the Bahamas, but from what has been said, that child is the legal child of the man who signs the birth certificate. So, in essence, Larry can't file kidnap charges even if he is proven the father.

02-24-2007, 10:50 PM	#11
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Irene, I'm ready to be proven wrong on this, but on tv the other day, one of the legal eagle talking heads stated that the baby is an American citizen. I know I heard correctly, but it's possible that the lawyer had wrong information.