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isiahthomas · 02-01-2007, 05:49 PM

Dr. Jazz i'm glad to see you're posting about these old funk artists because when the funk artists disappeared, r&b music died in my opinion. I liked some of the 90's r&b artists but i'm not really a fan of love songs. I like uptempo party songs like More Bounce To The Ounce by Zapp, Heartbreaker by Zapp, Humpin by The Gap Band, Let It Whip by Dazz Band, Fantastic Voyage by Lakeside, Raid by Lakeside, Throw It Down, Your Love Takes Me Out, She's Strange, Flirt songs by Cameo, Flashlight by Parliament, Not Just Knee Deep by Funkadelic, Atomic Dog by George Clinton. Today's r&b artists for some reason sing too many love songs and that's exactly why i don't like today's r&b artists. Old r&b/funk artists will always be better than the new artists.

JuicyCoutureGirl · 02-01-2007, 05:55 PM

Today's R&B is dead. How many Beyonce clones can we possibly have, and don't get me started on that Cassie girl who only got famous thanks to myspace and Diddy.

Not that I was in to R&B in the first place, but I miss the days of singers like Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Jodeci, and others from the eighties and nineties.

isiahthomas · 02-01-2007, 06:20 PM

Yeah there are a lot of wannabe black female singers that try to be like Beyonce. Another thing i don't like about today's r&b is that the music sounds pop. R&B music today doesn't have any funk in it. Then you got old r&b artists that are trying to sell records today by having wack collabos with wack artists on their albums. Like Charlie Wilson of The Gap Band for example. His last album Last Name Wilson, First Name Charlie had Justin Timberlake and Snoop Dogg on it. What's up with that? Even New Edition signed with Bad Boy records which was a mistake because their album didn't sell well. Their first single Hot 2 Nite sucked. Bell Biv Devoe's last album 6 years ago sucked because they tried to be pop. It baffles me why so many artists always change their style of music to sell records and appeal to a younger audience instead of doing music for the fans who grew up on their music.

JuicyCoutureGirl · 02-01-2007, 06:44 PM

My uncle was so disappointed in Charlie Wilson's last album.....

Today's R&B is getting a little too graphic when it comes to sex like that group Pretty Ricky(four ugly little boys) singing and rapping about getting it on and i'm pretty sure that they are all under 18.

A lot of R&B stars today are now trying to reach out to the Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson audiences by sounding almost like them. And what is up with rappers appearing in EVERY R&B song adding on the vulgar crap lyrics?

One of the many reasons why I don't let my kids watch MTV or BET.

isiahthomas · 02-01-2007, 06:47 PM

LOL@what you said about Pretty Ricky hahahahahahahahahaha. I never heard of them. I thought Pretty Ricky was just one guy LOL. MTV and BET are trash channels as far as i'm concerned. I never liked MTV anyway because it's a racist network and the only reason why they showed rap videos is because BET did it first. They copy off of BET so much. You're right. The r&b singers today are trying to reach a pop/white audience and i have a problem with that. R&B music is for blacks, not whites.

JuicyCoutureGirl · 02-01-2007, 07:02 PM

I wouldn't say that R&B is for blacks since Michael McDonald and Teena Marie sings ten times better than half of the R&B singers out there. I also wouldn't call MTV racist either since BET does more harm to blacks than MTV does.

Growing up, I wasn't allowed to watch BET or listen to so called black music, and in another post that I wrote, wasn't allowed to watch 'black' shows unless it was Cosby. My father thought it was pure trash but when he wasn't around, I would listen to Patti, Chaka, and Kool in the Gang... I was completely blown away by their sounds today however, I'm not impressed by the Ashanti's, the Ciara's, and the B2K's.

Ireneparalegal · 02-01-2007, 08:04 PM

Am I the only one who is SICK OF BEYONCE????? I am kinda glad she didn't get nominated for an Oscar or any other award, I feel that she is in the limelight so damn much and it is OVEREXPOSURE AND OVERBLOWN. I mean, I give the girl credit, and she has proven herself, I just feel sickened to see her EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL, EVERY FRIGGIN MAGAZINE, EVERY FRIGGIN EVERYTHING, I am glad Jennifer Hudson got her due because seems she was overshadowed in the beginning of the the hype for Dreamgirls. It was always talk abt BEYONCE, now! it's all abt Jennifer!!!!!!!

isiahthomas · 02-01-2007, 09:32 PM

I agree with you Ireneparalegal about Beyonce. She is definitely in the limelight too damn much. She's my girl and i'm in love with her but she is in the spotlight too much.

Brad Russ · 02-01-2007, 10:52 PM

I don't even consider the crap they call R&B today, R&B. It's an insult to all the REAL R&B singers and groups like: The Four Topps, The Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Dianna Ross, etc. To compare someone like Beyonce to such legends as these, is a total slap in the face to those artists in my view.

Ireneparalegal · 02-01-2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Mel

I don't even consider the crap they call R&B today, R&B. It's an insult to all the REAL R&B singers and groups like: The Four Topps, The Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Dianna Ross, etc. To compare someone like Beyonce to such legends as these, is a total slap in the face to those artists in my view.

DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JuicyCoutureGirl · 02-02-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Am I the only one who is SICK OF BEYONCE????? I am kinda glad she didn't get nominated for an Oscar or any other award, I feel that she is in the limelight so damn much and it is OVEREXPOSURE AND OVERBLOWN. I mean, I give the girl credit, and she has proven herself, I just feel sickened to see her EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL, EVERY FRIGGIN MAGAZINE, EVERY FRIGGIN EVERYTHING, I am glad Jennifer Hudson got her due because seems she was overshadowed in the beginning of the the hype for Dreamgirls. It was always talk abt BEYONCE, now! it's all abt Jennifer!!!!!!!

No, you aren't the only one, trust me. Beyonce to me, yodels, she doesn't sing, just yodels. That year when she was the only one singing at the oscars really ticked me off so bad, that I just had to change the channel. On top of that, the girl is such an airhead that she's living proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

platinumblondelife · 02-02-2007, 02:38 AM

You all are going to probably think they were crap too, but even the music I listened to as a young kid was so much better than a lot of what is out today and Im not even one of those pepole that constantly complains about current music. I remember Shai, Kut Klose, Zhane, Jon B., Keith Sweat, Jade, Dru Hill, Groove Theory etc...they were all very good imo. I actually like Pretty Ricky because you can tell that their music has a lot of 90s r&b influence in it.

JuicyCoutureGirl · 02-02-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by platinumblondelife

You all are going to probably think they were crap too, but even the music I listened to as a young kid was so much better than a lot of what is out today and Im not even one of those pepole that constantly complains about current music. I remember Shai, Kut Klose, Zhane, Jon B., Keith Sweat, Jade, Dru Hill, Groove Theory etc...they were all very good imo. I actually like Pretty Ricky because you can tell that their music has a lot of 90s r&b influence in it.

Your music isn't crap at all, I love Jade and Groove Theory and Zhane, they could sing, and their lyrics made sense, being a teen of the nineties, that was what I was listening to besides the pop and grunge stuff.

isiahthomas · 02-02-2007, 05:53 PM

Platinumblondelife i remember those artists. Keith Sweat is the man. He's made a lot of tight songs. His first album is a classic. I like every song on Make It Last Forever album. I saw him last year in a straight to video movie called Forbidden Fruit and his character was a drug dealer LOL. The movie was pretty good. Taral Hicks who was DMX's woman in Belly movie is also in the movie and so is rapper Fredro Starr of Onyx, Keith David, Tiny Lister. Taral Hicks is a beautiful black woman. It's a shame she hasn't gotten that many acting roles. Getting back to the topic, look at how R Kelly's music has changed. His music sucks now. Last album i liked by him is Chocolate Factory. Now he wants to be a thug and collaborate with rappers rather than stick to the music he did back in the day that made him successful. I was watching his old videos today on dvd. I bought a videos dvd by him called The R In R&B. I can't believe the dvd left off the videos Home Alone with Keith Murray, Half On A Baby, Feeling On Yo Booty, Bad Man from Shaft soundtrack, Gotham City remix from Batman Forever soundtrack. He always did do some tight remixes. He has some serious issues though liking teenage girls. I believe these allegations against him are true because why would these girls make up these lies on him? People need to learn to stay away from people because people can't be trusted especially when you're a celebrity and got lots of money. R Kelly should've known better. I don't understand why he would mess up his success dealing with young girls. Ronald Isley got issues too. He likes young women just like R Kelly because his wife is 30 years old LOL. He also doesn't like paying taxes and he steals money from his dead brother LOL.

platinumblondelife · 02-02-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by isiahthomas

Platinumblondelife i remember those artists. Keith Sweat is the man. He's made a lot of tight songs. His first album is a classic. I like every song on Make It Last Forever album. I saw him last year in a straight to video movie called Forbidden Fruit and his character was a drug dealer LOL. The movie was pretty good. Taral Hicks who was DMX's woman in Belly movie is also in the movie and so is rapper Fredro Starr of Onyx, Keith David, Tiny Lister. Taral Hicks is a beautiful black woman. It's a shame she hasn't gotten that many acting roles. Getting back to the topic, look at how R Kelly's music has changed. His music sucks now. Last album i liked by him is Chocolate Factory. Now he wants to be a thug and collaborate with rappers rather than stick to the music he did back in the day that made him successful. I was watching his old videos today on dvd. I bought a videos dvd by him called The R In R&B. I can't believe the dvd left off the videos Home Alone with Keith Murray, Half On A Baby, Feeling On Yo Booty, Bad Man from Shaft soundtrack, Gotham City remix from Batman Forever soundtrack. He always did do some tight remixes. He has some serious issues though liking teenage girls. I believe these allegations against him are true because why would these girls make up these lies on him? People need to learn to stay away from people because people can't be trusted especially when you're a celebrity and got lots of money. R Kelly should've known better. I don't understand why he would mess up his success dealing with young girls. Ronald Isley got issues too. He likes young women just like R Kelly because his wife is 30 years old LOL. He also doesn't like paying taxes and he steals money from his dead brother LOL.

I looooved Keith Sweat, I think my favorite song of his was Nobody. Yeah, R. Kelly has changed a lot, but I still love R. Kelly. I like the remix of Promise that he did with Ciara, you should listen to it, it sort of reminds me of his older songs, and the whole song itself just reminds me of something older I use to listen to. When I think of R. Kelly, I think of that episode of the Boondocks where he's on trial, it's sooo funny! If you care to watch it heres the first part http://youtube.com/watch?v=89YNvd9Sk5o
Anyway, R. Kelly's cd with the Trapped in the Closets isn't terrible, I have it and I like some of them lol.
Anyone remember Jon B.? Loved him too. I saw a recent picture of him and he looked very crazy which made me sad,lol.

02-01-2007, 05:49 PM	#1
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	R&B Music Is Dead Dr. Jazz i'm glad to see you're posting about these old funk artists because when the funk artists disappeared, r&b music died in my opinion. I liked some of the 90's r&b artists but i'm not really a fan of love songs. I like uptempo party songs like More Bounce To The Ounce by Zapp, Heartbreaker by Zapp, Humpin by The Gap Band, Let It Whip by Dazz Band, Fantastic Voyage by Lakeside, Raid by Lakeside, Throw It Down, Your Love Takes Me Out, She's Strange, Flirt songs by Cameo, Flashlight by Parliament, Not Just Knee Deep by Funkadelic, Atomic Dog by George Clinton. Today's r&b artists for some reason sing too many love songs and that's exactly why i don't like today's r&b artists. Old r&b/funk artists will always be better than the new artists.

02-01-2007, 05:55 PM	#2
JuicyCoutureGirl L Hath No Fury Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 09, 2006 Location: Drinking Margaritas With The L Word Ladies at The Planet Posts: 782	Today's R&B is dead. How many Beyonce clones can we possibly have, and don't get me started on that Cassie girl who only got famous thanks to myspace and Diddy. Not that I was in to R&B in the first place, but I miss the days of singers like Patti LaBelle, Chaka Khan, Jodeci, and others from the eighties and nineties.
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02-01-2007, 08:04 PM	#7
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Am I the only one who is SICK OF BEYONCE????? I am kinda glad she didn't get nominated for an Oscar or any other award, I feel that she is in the limelight so damn much and it is OVEREXPOSURE AND OVERBLOWN. I mean, I give the girl credit, and she has proven herself, I just feel sickened to see her EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL, EVERY FRIGGIN MAGAZINE, EVERY FRIGGIN EVERYTHING, I am glad Jennifer Hudson got her due because seems she was overshadowed in the beginning of the the hype for Dreamgirls. It was always talk abt BEYONCE, now! it's all abt Jennifer!!!!!!!
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02-01-2007, 10:52 PM	#9
Brad Russ Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 17, 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 10,085	I don't even consider the crap they call R&B today, R&B. It's an insult to all the REAL R&B singers and groups like: The Four Topps, The Temptations, Smokey Robinson, Dianna Ross, etc. To compare someone like Beyonce to such legends as these, is a total slap in the face to those artists in my view.
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02-02-2007, 02:38 AM	#12
platinumblondelife smooches. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 2,189	You all are going to probably think they were crap too, but even the music I listened to as a young kid was so much better than a lot of what is out today and Im not even one of those pepole that constantly complains about current music. I remember Shai, Kut Klose, Zhane, Jon B., Keith Sweat, Jade, Dru Hill, Groove Theory etc...they were all very good imo. I actually like Pretty Ricky because you can tell that their music has a lot of 90s r&b influence in it.
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02-01-2007, 06:20 PM	#3
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	Yeah there are a lot of wannabe black female singers that try to be like Beyonce. Another thing i don't like about today's r&b is that the music sounds pop. R&B music today doesn't have any funk in it. Then you got old r&b artists that are trying to sell records today by having wack collabos with wack artists on their albums. Like Charlie Wilson of The Gap Band for example. His last album Last Name Wilson, First Name Charlie had Justin Timberlake and Snoop Dogg on it. What's up with that? Even New Edition signed with Bad Boy records which was a mistake because their album didn't sell well. Their first single Hot 2 Nite sucked. Bell Biv Devoe's last album 6 years ago sucked because they tried to be pop. It baffles me why so many artists always change their style of music to sell records and appeal to a younger audience instead of doing music for the fans who grew up on their music.

02-01-2007, 06:44 PM	#4
JuicyCoutureGirl L Hath No Fury Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 09, 2006 Location: Drinking Margaritas With The L Word Ladies at The Planet Posts: 782	My uncle was so disappointed in Charlie Wilson's last album..... Today's R&B is getting a little too graphic when it comes to sex like that group Pretty Ricky(four ugly little boys) singing and rapping about getting it on and i'm pretty sure that they are all under 18. A lot of R&B stars today are now trying to reach out to the Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson audiences by sounding almost like them. And what is up with rappers appearing in EVERY R&B song adding on the vulgar crap lyrics? One of the many reasons why I don't let my kids watch MTV or BET.

02-01-2007, 06:47 PM	#5
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	LOL@what you said about Pretty Ricky hahahahahahahahahaha. I never heard of them. I thought Pretty Ricky was just one guy LOL. MTV and BET are trash channels as far as i'm concerned. I never liked MTV anyway because it's a racist network and the only reason why they showed rap videos is because BET did it first. They copy off of BET so much. You're right. The r&b singers today are trying to reach a pop/white audience and i have a problem with that. R&B music is for blacks, not whites.

02-01-2007, 07:02 PM	#6
JuicyCoutureGirl L Hath No Fury Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 09, 2006 Location: Drinking Margaritas With The L Word Ladies at The Planet Posts: 782	I wouldn't say that R&B is for blacks since Michael McDonald and Teena Marie sings ten times better than half of the R&B singers out there. I also wouldn't call MTV racist either since BET does more harm to blacks than MTV does. Growing up, I wasn't allowed to watch BET or listen to so called black music, and in another post that I wrote, wasn't allowed to watch 'black' shows unless it was Cosby. My father thought it was pure trash but when he wasn't around, I would listen to Patti, Chaka, and Kool in the Gang... I was completely blown away by their sounds today however, I'm not impressed by the Ashanti's, the Ciara's, and the B2K's.

02-01-2007, 09:32 PM	#8
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	I agree with you Ireneparalegal about Beyonce. She is definitely in the limelight too damn much. She's my girl and i'm in love with her but she is in the spotlight too much.

02-02-2007, 05:53 PM	#14
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	Platinumblondelife i remember those artists. Keith Sweat is the man. He's made a lot of tight songs. His first album is a classic. I like every song on Make It Last Forever album. I saw him last year in a straight to video movie called Forbidden Fruit and his character was a drug dealer LOL. The movie was pretty good. Taral Hicks who was DMX's woman in Belly movie is also in the movie and so is rapper Fredro Starr of Onyx, Keith David, Tiny Lister. Taral Hicks is a beautiful black woman. It's a shame she hasn't gotten that many acting roles. Getting back to the topic, look at how R Kelly's music has changed. His music sucks now. Last album i liked by him is Chocolate Factory. Now he wants to be a thug and collaborate with rappers rather than stick to the music he did back in the day that made him successful. I was watching his old videos today on dvd. I bought a videos dvd by him called The R In R&B. I can't believe the dvd left off the videos Home Alone with Keith Murray, Half On A Baby, Feeling On Yo Booty, Bad Man from Shaft soundtrack, Gotham City remix from Batman Forever soundtrack. He always did do some tight remixes. He has some serious issues though liking teenage girls. I believe these allegations against him are true because why would these girls make up these lies on him? People need to learn to stay away from people because people can't be trusted especially when you're a celebrity and got lots of money. R Kelly should've known better. I don't understand why he would mess up his success dealing with young girls. Ronald Isley got issues too. He likes young women just like R Kelly because his wife is 30 years old LOL. He also doesn't like paying taxes and he steals money from his dead brother LOL.