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briangarber · 01-29-2007, 01:42 PM

I think I'm discovering one of the problems with the second season. The format of the show last year centered on Ted's search for love, be it Robin, Victoria, or "guest female love interest" of the week. Ted's character was built around romanticism, hopeless/hopeful devotion, and determination (albeit often to a ridiculous or unrealistic point). Ted's friends served in a large way as obvious landmarks at each end of the spectrum (Barney as single and free; Marshall/Lily as committed and harmonious), each unflailing in their position.

This season, with Ted in a relationship with Robin, his character not only needed to be developed more, but needed to abandon the characteristic that defined him (and frankly, the show, in so much as the title/story suggested a search for the children's mother). This year, we've learned of Ted's past, his family, and his job. Relationship issues with Robin have been held to a minimum (which I believe is necessary if they plan to keep them together for awhile).

What I'm not sure about is if Ted's character, outside of his views/attitudes/behavior toward love and dating, is all that interesting or all that funny. Removed from those views and behaviors, Ted may not have all that much to offer, at least in terms of entertainment value. As the other main characters have become more developed, they have stayed true to the basis of their general concept on the show: Barney (lethario), Marshall (devoted and fun loving), Lily (sweet and finding herself), and Robin (hesitant and torn amongst career & relationship). They remain humormous and engaged, and their development has been Season 2's most valuable achievement. But is Ted destined to be a straight man, to the jokes and actions of the others?

Surely, issues with Robin will arise again, and Ted could be single for portions or the majority of Season 3 (optomistically hoping that the show is renewed). And despite the title and basic concept, the show does not have to revolve entirely around Ted, and if the producers feel it wise can develop into a true ensenamble (much like "Seinfeld" did, ultimately resulting in Jerry's pals as the funnier, more engaging, and more complex characters). However, plotlines that revolve around Ted, particularly ones that seperate him from the core group, may not reach that same level of humor, no matter how strong the guest stars he's paired with. It would be a shame to see that happen, but is a natural occurance on many long-running sitcoms--for example, Marge-centric episodes of "The Simpsons" are notorious for being unable to reach the comedy bar established by Homer-centric or Bart-centric episodes.

Any thoughts would be welcome; this is a show near and dear to my heart, and I still enjoy it greatly, but I do notice a change.-Brian G.

01-29-2007, 01:42 PM	#1
briangarber Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jan 29, 2007 Location: Newark, DE Posts: 1	Concerns with Season 2 I think I'm discovering one of the problems with the second season. The format of the show last year centered on Ted's search for love, be it Robin, Victoria, or "guest female love interest" of the week. Ted's character was built around romanticism, hopeless/hopeful devotion, and determination (albeit often to a ridiculous or unrealistic point). Ted's friends served in a large way as obvious landmarks at each end of the spectrum (Barney as single and free; Marshall/Lily as committed and harmonious), each unflailing in their position. This season, with Ted in a relationship with Robin, his character not only needed to be developed more, but needed to abandon the characteristic that defined him (and frankly, the show, in so much as the title/story suggested a search for the children's mother). This year, we've learned of Ted's past, his family, and his job. Relationship issues with Robin have been held to a minimum (which I believe is necessary if they plan to keep them together for awhile). What I'm not sure about is if Ted's character, outside of his views/attitudes/behavior toward love and dating, is all that interesting or all that funny. Removed from those views and behaviors, Ted may not have all that much to offer, at least in terms of entertainment value. As the other main characters have become more developed, they have stayed true to the basis of their general concept on the show: Barney (lethario), Marshall (devoted and fun loving), Lily (sweet and finding herself), and Robin (hesitant and torn amongst career & relationship). They remain humormous and engaged, and their development has been Season 2's most valuable achievement. But is Ted destined to be a straight man, to the jokes and actions of the others? Surely, issues with Robin will arise again, and Ted could be single for portions or the majority of Season 3 (optomistically hoping that the show is renewed). And despite the title and basic concept, the show does not have to revolve entirely around Ted, and if the producers feel it wise can develop into a true ensenamble (much like "Seinfeld" did, ultimately resulting in Jerry's pals as the funnier, more engaging, and more complex characters). However, plotlines that revolve around Ted, particularly ones that seperate him from the core group, may not reach that same level of humor, no matter how strong the guest stars he's paired with. It would be a shame to see that happen, but is a natural occurance on many long-running sitcoms--for example, Marge-centric episodes of "The Simpsons" are notorious for being unable to reach the comedy bar established by Homer-centric or Bart-centric episodes. Any thoughts would be welcome; this is a show near and dear to my heart, and I still enjoy it greatly, but I do notice a change.-Brian G.