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Family Ties Forever! · 01-22-2007, 02:16 AM

Are you for or against it? I'm for it. I think it needs to be passed into law.

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Lawmaker Proposes No-Spanking Law
Sponsor Says Measure Would Help Young Children

Updated: 10:47 am CST January 19, 2007

Sacramento, Calif. -- A California legislator introduced a bill Thursday that would make it illegal for parents to spank their young children.

Assemblywoman Sally Lieber, D-Mountain View, authored the bill, which would make it a misdemeanor for parents to spank a child age 3 years or younger, television station KCRA reported.

The crime would carry a punishment of up to a year in jail or a $1,000 fine.

Lieber said the bill is long overdue.

"This bill is absolutely not big mother government coming in to tell parents what to do," Lieber said. "But it is creating a line in the law that stands on the side of very young children. Children that are 3 years old or younger are really sitting ducks for physical punishment, and they're no match with the speed or size or force of an adult who's beating them."

Opponents said the government shouldn't tell adults how to be parents.

If the bill passes and is signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lieber said it would make California the first in the nation to have a no-spanking law.

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Chelsea · 01-22-2007, 02:20 AM

I don't think 3 and Under is a good benchmark. Why? The terrible twos. And at 2 years a child is at least developed enough physically to get at least some degree of a spanking. I think prohibiting it for any child up to 24 months would be fine, but any more than that and you start to lose the ability to discipline unruly kids.

Dutabi84 · 01-22-2007, 02:29 AM

Perhaps Arnold and Sally should demonstrate what the legal definition of a spanking is. Like...will you get thrown in jail if you give your 2 year-old a quick whack on the butt for being disobedient?

Otherwise, I am all for the government deciding what's right and wrong in our own homes, especially with pressing issues such as spanking.

jie3 · 01-22-2007, 02:42 AM

I'm 100% for it. The sooner we start delivering the message that raising your hand is NOT the answer, the better off we'll all be.

J

Hollow · 01-22-2007, 04:17 AM

totally fine with me.

Sharop · 01-22-2007, 07:40 AM

If they mean proper, hard, spanking, then I agree with it. I don't see anything wrong with a little tap, though - nothing big, nothing that hurts too much, just a warning to show kids that what they're doing is wrong. I think that's probably okay.

Courtnee · 01-22-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth

I don't think 3 and Under is a good benchmark. Why? The terrible twos. And at 2 years a child is at least developed enough physically to get at least some degree of a spanking. I think prohibiting it for any child up to 24 months would be fine, but any more than that and you start to lose the ability to discipline unruly kids.

I agree.

Mr. Television · 01-22-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth

I don't think 3 and Under is a good benchmark. Why? The terrible twos. And at 2 years a child is at least developed enough physically to get at least some degree of a spanking. I think prohibiting it for any child up to 24 months would be fine, but any more than that and you start to lose the ability to discipline unruly kids.

I agree. and their's enough unruly kids already.

Bobby F. · 01-22-2007, 01:03 PM

What a complete waste of time and tax payers money to even consider this. What next.....the government telling us we can only eat out at a fast-food resturant once a month?? Starting to sound alot like the gov. wanting to tells what to do all the time. Communism?? Solcialism???

Georgia's on my Mind · 01-22-2007, 01:28 PM

i dont know how well this is going to work

Mr. Stefani · 01-22-2007, 01:54 PM

you shouldn't be allowed to have kids if you think spanking them is a good form of discipline.

Bobby F. · 01-22-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stefani

you shouldn't be allowed to have kids if you think spanking them is a good form of discipline.

Why not "you should not be allowed to have kids if you can't provide for them and have to constantly sponge off the government". That's a bit more appropriate.

Spanking works. You don't have to beat the kid to a bloody pulp to get results. A nice little swat on the ass is a very good attention getter.

Mr. Stefani · 01-22-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby F.

Spanking works. You don't have to beat the kid to a bloody pulp to get results. A nice little swat on the ass is a very good attention getter.

You shouldn't have to raise a hand to your child to get their attention, whether it be their ass or their face. If thats what you result to, you're a lazy parent. Most parents only spank their kids out of their own anger and frustration.

Bobby F. · 01-22-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Stefani

You shouldn't have to raise a hand to your child to get their attention, whether it be their ass or their face. If thats what you result to, you're a lazy parent. Most parents only spank their kids out of their own anger and frustration.

Seeing as you are only 19 tell me how many kids do you have???

I've seen kids that have been perfect and have never needed to be spanked and some that were holy hell and nothing but a swat on the ass would get their attention. It ain't about being lazy. It's about making sure that an unruly child understands who is in charge. Get back to me in about 10 years when you've had kids.

Mr. Stefani · 01-22-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby F.

Seeing as you are only 19 tell me how many kids do you have???

I've seen kids that have been perfect and have never needed to be spanked and some that were holy hell and nothing but a swat on the ass would get their attention. It ain't about being lazy. It's about making sure that an unruly child understands who is in charge. Get back to me in about 10 years when you've had kids.

I grew up with an abusive father, I think I can speak with experience on this subject. I will never lay a hand on any of my kids.Dont think you know all because you're older than me. I've been practically a second father to my step sister, and shes a kid from hell. Never would I consider spanking her. She has learned when enough is enough just by the tone of voice I take up.

Whats the difference between giving them a "swat" on the butt and not just doing it on their face? They dont have to look at you when you're doing it?

01-22-2007, 02:20 AM	#2
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01-22-2007, 02:29 AM	#3
Dutabi84 kittens must die Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: MN/TX Posts: 11,026	Perhaps Arnold and Sally should demonstrate what the legal definition of a spanking is. Like...will you get thrown in jail if you give your 2 year-old a quick whack on the butt for being disobedient? Otherwise, I am all for the government deciding what's right and wrong in our own homes, especially with pressing issues such as spanking.

01-22-2007, 04:17 AM	#5
Hollow Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,406	totally fine with me.

01-22-2007, 01:03 PM	#9
Bobby F. Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 3,818	What a complete waste of time and tax payers money to even consider this. What next.....the government telling us we can only eat out at a fast-food resturant once a month?? Starting to sound alot like the gov. wanting to tells what to do all the time. Communism?? Solcialism???

01-22-2007, 01:28 PM	#10
Georgia's on my Mind Senior Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Aug 19, 2001 Posts: 25,054	i dont know how well this is going to work

01-22-2007, 01:54 PM	#11
Mr. Stefani Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jul 15, 2001 Posts: 20,757	you shouldn't be allowed to have kids if you think spanking them is a good form of discipline.