Dimitric Moore murder

[benoitbabe]

I googled it after it aired last night on lmn. I only found this old article. http://brechner.org/reports/1995/rpt9512.htm
it is from the moms inditment.
I don't belive she had anything to do with it. I belive the boys Dimitrick was with killed him. I also think an adult may have helped them clean him and put him into the trunk. I also think they should have been disaplined at the bascketball court by the adults there for their actions there.

[wiseguy182]

I've seen this case in the past. I don't think the mother was guilty either. This was another example of a prosecutor irritating me, as he stated that the injuries Dimitric suffered coincided with that of a bathtub injury - yet as someone correctly pointed out in the segment: bathtub injuries are quite rare, so it's difficult to tell what a typical bathtub injury would be. Just another example of a prosecutor dreaming up a scenario in hopes that the jury will be angry enough that they will put the defendant behind bars, which is aggrivating. I'm not sure if the other boys playing basketball intended to kill Dimitric or if it was an accident, but they are probably responsible.

[Phanekim]

If i am correct, the boy's body was found in trunk of HER car. whoever has access to the car is probably the killer. I am with the police on this one. I think the mom did it.

[LaurierCrimmajor]

Originally Posted by benoitbabe

I googled it after it aired last night on lmn. I only found this old article. http://brechner.org/reports/1995/rpt9512.htm
it is from the moms inditment.
I don't belive she had anything to do with it. I belive the boys Dimitrick was with killed him. I also think an adult may have helped them clean him and put him into the trunk. I also think they should have been disaplined at the bascketball court by the adults there for their actions there.

Just curious, but what channel is lmn?

I'm from Canada and only get to watch the new SPIKE versions or the DVDs, I'd really appreciate it if you could help me out.

[justins5256]

Originally Posted by Phanekim

If i am correct, the boy's body was found in trunk of HER car. whoever has access to the car is probably the killer. I am with the police on this one. I think the mom did it.

The car could have been unlocked and the body placed there to frame her. I suppose she could have done it, but keep in mind that the neighbors didn't hear a fight, and there was eyewitness testimony that those boys killed him. In addition, there was testimony suggesting the boys last seen with Dimitric lied to the police.

One thing I am certain of - whoever placed the body in the trunk had to be an adult. The body itself was cleaned thoroughly and was nude. If Dimitric was killed by those kids, I doubt they would have the foresight to clean the body this way so as to not leave trace evidence. This makes me think the crime was covered up by the parents of the kids who accidentally killed Dimitric.

[bugnpinky]

It's not impossible, but I'd think that it is just too obvious to put the body in the car right at the house. You'd think that she would have gotten rid of it long before she called police. Why keep it around overnight? She could be dumb...but it seems weird to call police knowing that the body is right there and easily found---of course police would want to inspect the car!

[Phanekim]

Originally Posted by justins5256

The car could have been unlocked and the body placed there to frame her. I suppose she could have done it, but keep in mind that the neighbors didn't hear a fight, and there was eyewitness testimony that those boys killed him. In addition, there was testimony suggesting the boys last seen with Dimitric lied to the police.

One thing I am certain of - whoever placed the body in the trunk had to be an adult. The body itself was cleaned thoroughly and was nude. If Dimitric was killed by those kids, I doubt they would have the foresight to clean the body this way so as to not leave trace evidence. This makes me think the crime was covered up by the parents of the kids who accidentally killed Dimitric.

first off, who here leaves their car unlocked? its way too risky to do incriminate yourself just trying to frame another person.

also, how many fights do you hear happen? I have nieghbors that fight all the time. they apologize for being too loud and i diddn't even realize there was an argument to begin with.

also according to police theory he went unconcious. there isn't going to be a commotion if he just gets wacked. and this is a boy and his mother. he knew he was messy he's not gonna fight and argue her about it. the cause of death was also asphixisation. again how many fights between boys end in asphysitation. its highly unlikely.

i agree its probably unfair to convict her of the crime. however, all signs point to her. the notion that someone would put a body in her trunk is really sorta of silly outside of her or someone who has acess to the key of her car. My instinct is she put body in car and was hoping to play role of distressed mother until things died down and then when things died down she could dump body somewhere.

the thing that stands out with me is someone oculd drive around in that car looking for her son with a body in trunk and not notice it. also her only alibi in that time is her older son. so thats not the most secure of alibis as well. again i dont think its enough for a conviction. but its very likely that she did it. there is no reason why boys or their motherse have some elaborate scheme that they could somehow try to frame her....wash the body...take it from railroad tracks...etc etc. its just too much and highly unlikly.

[MegtheEgg86]

Originally Posted by Phanekim

first off, who here leaves their car unlocked? its way too risky to do incriminate yourself just trying to frame another person.

Plenty of people, especially when the car is parked right outside your home. I've known many people who've employed that practice for one reason or another, but it's mainly because they feel that their vehicle is "within plain sight" and secure right outside their residence.

If it's too risky to incriminate oneself "just trying to frame another person", why are there numerous accounts of guilty parties planting evidence, or lying about the circumstances of the crime?

also, how many fights do you hear happen? I have nieghbors that fight all the time. they apologize for being too loud and i diddn't even realize there was an argument to begin with.

Again, plenty. As someone who also has neighbors who frequently argue loudly, I can recall numerous occasions in which I've not only heard them from my home, but blocks away. I realize, however, that piece of information is anecdotal, much like the very basis of your argument here.

the cause of death was also asphixisation. again how many fights between boys end in asphysitation.

....again, plenty? Males have been known to strangle other males, in criminal acts as well as in common physical altercations. That's the aim of your basic chokehold, is it not? Not all fights between males that end fatally have to be the result of blows. I think that's a rather stereotypic presumption.

there is no reason why boys or their motherse have some elaborate scheme that they could somehow try to frame her....wash the body...take it from railroad tracks...etc etc. its just too much and highly unlikly.

Please pardon me, but isn't the reason rather obvious? The boys, likely accidentally, kill a small child. Their parents, fearing for their childrens' future and not wanting them to go to prison, stage a scene to make it appear as though the boy's mother--the person absolutely closest to him--was responsible. I don't see how that is in any way implausible.

[Phanekim]

Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Plenty of people, especially when the car is parked right outside your home. I've known many people who've employed that practice for one reason or another, but it's mainly because they feel that their vehicle is "within plain sight" and secure right outside their residence.

If it's too risky to incriminate oneself "just trying to frame another person", why are there numerous accounts of guilty parties planting evidence, or lying about the circumstances of the crime?



Again, plenty. As someone who also has neighbors who frequently argue loudly, I can recall numerous occasions in which I've not only heard them from my home, but blocks away. I realize, however, that piece of information is anecdotal, much like the very basis of your argument here.



....again, plenty? Males have been known to strangle other males, in criminal acts as well as in common physical altercations. That's the aim of your basic chokehold, is it not? Not all fights between males that end fatally have to be the result of blows. I think that's a rather stereotypic presumption.



Please pardon me, but isn't the reason rather obvious? The boys, likely accidentally, kill a small child. Their parents, fearing for their childrens' future and not wanting them to go to prison, stage a scene to make it appear as though the boy's mother--the person absolutely closest to him--was responsible. I don't see how that is in any way implausible.

What i'm saying is leaving car outside unlocked? the only person who has access to opening that trunk to place the body in is immediate family members. If one were to place a body or anything into a trunk of a car THAT IS NOT THEIR OWN would raise immediate suspicion...particularly in plain daylight. So first they would have to not raise supsicion and secondly they would have to somehow have key to the car. i'm not sure if anyone who parks their car outside (me included for 10 years) ever keeps their car unlocked. this is why its too risky to incriminate another person. you incriminate yourself while doing it.

in terms of the hearing the arguing. the best way to term it is in terms of logic. The theory that there had to have been noise/commotion for the mother to kill her son is preposterous. ALl i'm saying is that its not a requirement. But to say because there was no audible noise as evidence that nothing happened is silly.

In terms of injury. The wound was to back of head. Now, if one were to be bullied there would have been other signs of a struggle. Lets take if the child was bullied, there is a GREATER chance of evidence of a struggle because he's going to resist a bully. as far as i have seen, there was no real sign of struggle. What is also intriguing is the cause of death is asphysiation. His tormenters would have to have caught him by back of head...choked him....come up with elaborate scheme to place the boy in back of mother's trunk without anyone noticing. Then they have to not incriminate each other through prisoner's dilemma. This is so very unlikely compared to the prosecuter's theory.

I'm not arguing that the mother should have been convicted. I"m just saying that in all likelihood she did it. I do not think my views are silly at all. if the police reports and prosecution thinks so...i dont see how it would be silly. Their theories seem like the most PLAUSIBLE. again, if i were a juror i wouldn't convict...but it seems highly likely this was an accidental death.

[TracyLynnS]

Originally Posted by LaurierCrimmajor

Just curious, but what channel is lmn?

I'm from Canada and only get to watch the new SPIKE versions or the DVDs, I'd really appreciate it if you could help me out.

Has anyone answered this question yet? I might have missed it.

The channel LMN is short for Lifetime Movie Network. I think that there's the Lifetime (network for women) channel and the LMN Lifetime Movie Network, which are two different, but related, channels on pay tv in the US. Not sure if they're available in Canada.

From going to mylifetime.com, it seems to indicate that those networks are connected to A&E (arts & entertainment), History Channel, and Bio Channel (biography channel), through the AETN Digital group of channels.

I'm pretty sure that Lifetime stopped airing UM some years back. I know that Spike was airing newer versions of the old shows last year and maybe earlier this year, but I'm not sure they're still on the schedule at Spike.

I haven't been on the boards here in a few months. Someone please correct this info if I've got anything wrong.

[TracyLynnS]

Sort of OFF TOPIC, but I just wanna throw this bit of info out there....

My kids are ages 23 and 21, working, in school, and still live at home with me. I've had a terrible time getting them into the habit of locking their car doors at night. Only one car fits in the garage, and it's sure ain't gonna be a kid's car! lol

Anyway, we all had garage door openers because of the convenience, rather than fumbling for the house key or punching the code into the panel on the garage door every time we needed to get into the house.

I finally had to take away the kids' automatic garage door openers. They weren't locking their cars, and IMO, a bad guy looking through your unlocked car at 3:00am may be pleased to find an easy way into the house by just grabbing the garage door opener.

Sorry for the bossy safety speech. The unlocked car scenario jogged my memory regarding the weird things criminals do.

[TracyLynnS]

Phanekim, I was wondering about the fact that the cause of death was asphyxiation. In this particular situation, the body was cleaned, but there was no water in the lungs? And someone stated that the injuries were consistent with "bathtub injuries"?

I don't recall enough about the case to have a feeling on the mom's guilt or innocence, but I did hear of a little girl, about 6 or 7 years old, who was murdered by her mom and step dad in the bath tub here in MI about 40 years ago.

Her body was clean. She'd been held in the tub forcibly, but there was no water in the lungs. The parents admitted to making their kids lie in very cold baths for extended periods of time as a punishment. What happened to the little michigan girl (about 1972?) was said to be a "dry drowning".

From what I can tell, it occurs more often when the drowning happens in cold water. Something related to breathing, the throat, lungs, etc, has spasms which paralyze those muscles.

If someone caring for Dimitric was angered by the fact that he came home dirty and needed a bath, could that be the reason the body was nude, clean, allegedly showing signs of "bathtub injuries", but had no water in the lungs?

Just tossing out some ideas... I don't know the specifics....

[DJ_Foxx]

Originally Posted by TracyLynnS

Phanekim, I was wondering about the fact that the cause of death was asphyxiation. In this particular situation, the body was cleaned, but there was no water in the lungs? And someone stated that the injuries were consistent with "bathtub injuries"?

I don't recall enough about the case to have a feeling on the mom's guilt or innocence, but I did hear of a little girl, about 6 or 7 years old, who was murdered by her mom and step dad in the bath tub here in MI about 40 years ago.

Her body was clean. She'd been held in the tub forcibly, but there was no water in the lungs. The parents admitted to making their kids lie in very cold baths for extended periods of time as a punishment. What happened to the little michigan girl (about 1972?) was said to be a "dry drowning".

From what I can tell, it occurs more often when the drowning happens in cold water. Something related to breathing, the throat, lungs, etc, has spasms which paralyze those muscles.

If someone caring for Dimitric was angered by the fact that he came home dirty and needed a bath, could that be the reason the body was nude, clean, allegedly showing signs of "bathtub injuries", but had no water in the lungs?

Just tossing out some ideas... I don't know the specifics....

I wondered about water being/not being in the lungs too? I watched this eppie again and it said that when Dimitric's body was found in the trunk, his wet clothes were also in the trunk too.

Something else I wondered about was how the authorities knew to search the trunk for Dimitric's body? That really stood out to me because it had just been 24 hours since he was reported missing so why look in the trunk for a body? Did they even have a search warrant or were they "tipped off" that the boy was dead and in the mom's car?

As far as getting in the trunk, I saw a clip during the episode where Dimitric's mom and brother leave the car running while they searched for Dimitric by the tracks. I guess the guilty party could have removed her keys from the ignition or depending on the car, they could have popped the trunk from the inside (most cars have a feature like that usually under the driver's seat that can pop the trunk).

Finally, the coroner put Dimitric's death as occurring between 8:00pm and 10:00pm. Every parent is different I imagine but to me that's awfully late for a child to be playing outside to begin with.....assuming that he was still outside with the neighborhood boys.

[AndForAMoment]

Originally Posted by TracyLynnS

I finally had to take away the kids' automatic garage door openers. They weren't locking their cars, and IMO, a bad guy looking through your unlocked car at 3:00am may be pleased to find an easy way into the house by just grabbing the garage door opener.

Many people, especially teens just leave their cars unlocked or leave vauable things in them. It makes sense that they either felt bad reilizing they killed him and cleaned him up and washed the clothes. They either knew where he lived and maybe heard someone and quickly looked for a place to hide him, or maybe his brother hid him and was going to bury him later so his mom would not see. I wonder what his mom lied about in the first polygraph. I do think those things are dumb and not reliable though.

[Cori aka ChrisSCrush]

As I recall, the mother went from door to door inquiring at all his friends' houses, without bothering to lock the car at each house. She believes a family member of the guilty parties distracted her by talking while someone else popped the trunk and stowed the body inside.