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Ricky88 · 01-01-2007, 12:40 AM

For those of you who are currently American citizens, were any of you born outside the United States? I was born in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. The worst thing about it: I can't be President of the United States. I only spent the first 10 days of my life and July 2003-September 2006 in Canada. Out of 24 years, I spent 3 years, 2 months, and 10 days outside the U.S., and I can't be President. Outrageous I tell you

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Fleet · 01-01-2007, 01:20 AM

I was born in Van Nuys, California.

But why would you want to be President? I wouldn't- you get attacked (verbally) practically everyday for doing your job. Who needs that?

Ricky88 · 01-01-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fleet

But why would you want to be President? I wouldn't- you get attacked (verbally) practically everyday for doing your job. Who needs that?

I don't. I'm saying if I wanted to, I couldn't since I was born outside the states. I spent 1/8 of my childhood in Canada, and I couldn't become President if I wanted to.

Fleet · 01-01-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky88

I don't. I'm saying if I wanted to, I couldn't since I was born outside the states. I spent 1/8 of my childhood in Canada, and I couldn't become President if I wanted to.

In that case, you can be President of Canada (if you want).

(Or Prime Minister, whatever the title is.)

Chelsea · 01-01-2007, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky88

I don't. I'm saying if I wanted to, I couldn't since I was born outside the states. I spent 1/8 of my childhood in Canada, and I couldn't become President if I wanted to.

Now hold on....were your folks naturalized US citizens when you were born? The generally held opiniion is that children born "overseas" to US citizen parents count as "natural born citizens" per the Constitution (though some interpretations do differ), and are eligible. (John McCain was actually born in the Panama Canal Zone, for example) At the very least, your candidacy would help define a precedent one way or another - which is sorely needed.

Ricky88 · 01-01-2007, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

Now hold on....were your folks naturalized US citizens when you were born? The generally held opiniion is that children born "overseas" to US citizen parents count as "natural born citizens" per the Constitution (though some interpretations do differ), and are eligible. (John McCain was actually born in the Panama Canal Zone, for example) At the very least, your candidacy would help define a precedent one way or another - which is sorely needed.

My mom was born in Haiti, but moved here at a very young age. My dad was born in Brooklyn. They were citizens when I was born. With that being said, would I still not be able to become President?

Chelsea · 01-01-2007, 02:06 AM

If your mom was a US Citizen at that time, yes. If not, it's more gray than it was before, but with your dad being a citizen, I think that still OK's you.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional expert, though. (Yet)

Ricky88 · 01-01-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth

If your mom was a US Citizen at that time, yes. If not, it's more gray than it was before, but with your dad being a citizen, I think that still OK's you.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional expert, though. (Yet)

I never knew that. I thought being born outside of the United States meant I couldn't run for President or any other government position.

Anyway, I'm glad to be back in the U.S. I spent over 3 years in Canada. The winters were wicked.

Chelsea · 01-01-2007, 04:06 AM

Oh really? How wicked were they? Truthfully, I'm one of those people who isn't truly at home until they're freezing their blank off, and these 50-60 degree in the day, no snow, sunny, winters we've had the last few years in Kentucky...they suck..

tdf4077 · 01-01-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky88

I never knew that. I thought being born outside of the United States meant I couldn't run for President or any other government position.

Being born on a military base or US soil elsewhere (like an embassy) also makes you a US citizen.

My mom and sister have lived in the US for 27 years, but both have retained their Canadian citizenship.

Czas na Zywiec · 01-01-2007, 04:49 PM

I was born here so am a defacto citizen, but I also have citizenship to Poland because my parents were here barely a year when they had me. Which is nice, cause now that we're in the EU, I can freely move around anyway I want to in the EU and have automatic citizenship.

jie3 · 01-01-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky88

Out of 24 years, I spent 3 years, 2 months, and 10 days outside the U.S., and I can't be President. Outrageous I tell you

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I wouldn't worry too much, if the current guy is anything to buy, your past doesn't make much difference

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gilligan fanatic · 01-01-2007, 06:16 PM

I have a very similar case to you Ricky. I was born in Italy. I was only an Italian Citizen three days. My dad works for the state department so we were living there at the time. If I was born at the embassy or the base I wouldn't have been born an Italian citizen, but I was born in an Italian hospital, which is kind of neat because the hospital I was born at is about a mile away from the Vatican. My birth certificiate is all in Italian.

Sharop · 01-01-2007, 06:30 PM

Yes. I was born in the UK, and I've lived there all my life, apart from holidays to America.

I've got dual nationality, since my mother is American.

Titania · 01-01-2007, 06:34 PM

I was born here.
One of my good friends, however, was born to two US citizens while they were on vacation in Ireland.

My boyfriend has been in the US for 11 years and recently got his citizenship, so no presidency for him.

Fairly sure that if your parents were US citizens (or like it's been said: embassy or military base) then you are a citizen and can be president.

01-01-2007, 12:40 AM	#1
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01-01-2007, 01:20 AM	#2
Fleet Mansions, limousines & H-ween Forum Star Join Date: Jan 06, 2002 Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, California Posts: 15,625	I was born in Van Nuys, California. But why would you want to be President? I wouldn't- you get attacked (verbally) practically everyday for doing your job. Who needs that?
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01-01-2007, 06:16 PM	#13
gilligan fanatic Born to Be Bad Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 06, 2001 Location: down by the Lagoon Posts: 9,954	I have a very similar case to you Ricky. I was born in Italy. I was only an Italian Citizen three days. My dad works for the state department so we were living there at the time. If I was born at the embassy or the base I wouldn't have been born an Italian citizen, but I was born in an Italian hospital, which is kind of neat because the hospital I was born at is about a mile away from the Vatican. My birth certificiate is all in Italian.
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01-01-2007, 06:30 PM	#14
Sharop Andy Gibb aged 12 Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 03, 2004 Location: Courthouse Square, Hill Valley, beside the clocktower, 10:04 p.m., November 12th 1955 Posts: 3,912	Yes. I was born in the UK, and I've lived there all my life, apart from holidays to America. I've got dual nationality, since my mother is American.
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01-01-2007, 06:34 PM	#15
Titania a part of that Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 04, 2000 Posts: 3,694	I was born here. One of my good friends, however, was born to two US citizens while they were on vacation in Ireland. My boyfriend has been in the US for 11 years and recently got his citizenship, so no presidency for him. Fairly sure that if your parents were US citizens (or like it's been said: embassy or military base) then you are a citizen and can be president.
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01-01-2007, 02:06 AM	#7
Chelsea Semi-retired Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Washington Posts: 5,727	If your mom was a US Citizen at that time, yes. If not, it's more gray than it was before, but with your dad being a citizen, I think that still OK's you. I'm not a lawyer or constitutional expert, though. (Yet)

01-01-2007, 04:06 AM	#9
Chelsea Semi-retired Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Washington Posts: 5,727	Oh really? How wicked were they? Truthfully, I'm one of those people who isn't truly at home until they're freezing their blank off, and these 50-60 degree in the day, no snow, sunny, winters we've had the last few years in Kentucky...they suck..

01-01-2007, 04:49 PM	#11
Czas na Zywiec what up Forum Star Join Date: Jun 28, 2001 Location: Southwest Side, Chicago Posts: 18,398	I was born here so am a defacto citizen, but I also have citizenship to Poland because my parents were here barely a year when they had me. Which is nice, cause now that we're in the EU, I can freely move around anyway I want to in the EU and have automatic citizenship.