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SP4CE INV4DERZ · 12-12-2006, 10:08 AM

Just watched the Dan Mareno case, the guy pulling off home repair scams on the elderly and I'm mad as a cut snake! His two main buddies posted only $50000 bond each and as Stack said "predictable as the sunrise, they disappeared" and then what happens...Dan Mareno is caught, bond is set at $10000000, then lowered to $100000 and sure as

he disappears... like duh, I am pissed:

How dumb can you get?

HyeTev · 12-12-2006, 02:31 PM

Wonderful American criminal 'justice' system at work once again...

kadrmas15 · 12-12-2006, 03:37 PM

Well while it is wrong unless you have a person that is incredibly violent you pretty much have to give the opportunity to post bond. That is how our justice system works. What scares me is how most American's have a rather mutilated idea of what justice is supposed to be. I mean yeah the guy was pulling scams on the elderly and that is terrible, do not get me wrong. But I think it is also outrageous to hold a guy on 1 million dollars bail for a crime like that. For a murder I can see that. I love how people complain about the justice system when it doesnt do what they want it to do but then praise it otherwise. I mean hate to say it but the people accused of crimes have rights to. That wont be a popular opinion here but I do not really care.

HyeTev · 12-12-2006, 04:07 PM

Yeah, but it seems that criminals have many more 'rights' than the victims.

And those scammers were flight risks. I think prior criminal history should be taken into account when setting bond. Got a long rap sheet - you're not going anywhere. JMO.

kadrmas15 · 12-12-2006, 05:29 PM

Well while I can understand how one could feel the way you do I not agree for the most part. Well a person would obviously have to be evaluated to see if they would be a flight risk. However a lot of the time a person does not post their own bail or bond rather family or friends do. If a person flees than it is those people who get screwed over. However I think to say the criminals have more rights than the victims I think is an outrageous thing to say. First off how can you be a criminal of something you have not been convicted of? I still find that funny how people have double standards on this issue. We have innocent until proven guilty for a reason. Heck even if you knew a person did it like in this case the person is still technically innocent until they either plead guilty or are found guilty and even then a person might still be innocent. This doesnt really have anything to do with the case at hand but I think people in this country tend to have the mistaken impression that anyone in prison is there because they are supposed to be there and that prosecutors never make mistakes and that the justice system is right 100 percent of the time. Obviously in hindsight the decision to give bail was not the right one. However besides the guys themselves who knew they would flee? A majority of people who are out on bail or bond do not flee.

crystaldawn · 12-12-2006, 05:29 PM

This case also infuriated me but mainly for the lack of conscious on the part of the scammers. They prey on the elderly's trust and sometimes lack of coherence and the fact that they may not be around much longer. The kind of people like that who have absolutely no regard for others and are incapable to contributing anything worthwhile to society definitely need to be locked up and stay there!

kadrmas15 · 12-12-2006, 06:07 PM

Were these guys ever caught again after they jumped bail CD? I hope people didnt get it confused when I was arguing that I said these guys had a right to bail. When I said that I was not by any means saying they didnt deserve to go to prison. Ripping off innocent people especially the elderly is a pretty low thing to do and when you are ripping people off from their life savings you certainly deserve to go to prison for a while. I just hope no one got it confused with what I was saying earlier, I was not saying these guy didnt deserve to go to prison because they did deserve to go to prison.

12-12-2006, 10:08 AM	#1
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	This makes me mad!! Just watched the Dan Mareno case, the guy pulling off home repair scams on the elderly and I'm mad as a cut snake! His two main buddies posted only $50000 bond each and as Stack said "predictable as the sunrise, they disappeared" and then what happens...Dan Mareno is caught, bond is set at $10000000, then lowered to $100000 and sure as he disappears... like duh, I am pissed: How dumb can you get?
	Last edited by SP4CE INV4DERZ; 12-12-2006 at 07:48 PM.

12-12-2006, 02:31 PM	#2
HyeTev Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 14, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 155	Wonderful American criminal 'justice' system at work once again...

12-12-2006, 03:37 PM	#3
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well while it is wrong unless you have a person that is incredibly violent you pretty much have to give the opportunity to post bond. That is how our justice system works. What scares me is how most American's have a rather mutilated idea of what justice is supposed to be. I mean yeah the guy was pulling scams on the elderly and that is terrible, do not get me wrong. But I think it is also outrageous to hold a guy on 1 million dollars bail for a crime like that. For a murder I can see that. I love how people complain about the justice system when it doesnt do what they want it to do but then praise it otherwise. I mean hate to say it but the people accused of crimes have rights to. That wont be a popular opinion here but I do not really care.

12-12-2006, 04:07 PM	#4
HyeTev Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 14, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 155	Yeah, but it seems that criminals have many more 'rights' than the victims. And those scammers were flight risks. I think prior criminal history should be taken into account when setting bond. Got a long rap sheet - you're not going anywhere. JMO.

12-12-2006, 05:29 PM	#5
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well while I can understand how one could feel the way you do I not agree for the most part. Well a person would obviously have to be evaluated to see if they would be a flight risk. However a lot of the time a person does not post their own bail or bond rather family or friends do. If a person flees than it is those people who get screwed over. However I think to say the criminals have more rights than the victims I think is an outrageous thing to say. First off how can you be a criminal of something you have not been convicted of? I still find that funny how people have double standards on this issue. We have innocent until proven guilty for a reason. Heck even if you knew a person did it like in this case the person is still technically innocent until they either plead guilty or are found guilty and even then a person might still be innocent. This doesnt really have anything to do with the case at hand but I think people in this country tend to have the mistaken impression that anyone in prison is there because they are supposed to be there and that prosecutors never make mistakes and that the justice system is right 100 percent of the time. Obviously in hindsight the decision to give bail was not the right one. However besides the guys themselves who knew they would flee? A majority of people who are out on bail or bond do not flee.

12-12-2006, 05:29 PM	#6
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	This case also infuriated me but mainly for the lack of conscious on the part of the scammers. They prey on the elderly's trust and sometimes lack of coherence and the fact that they may not be around much longer. The kind of people like that who have absolutely no regard for others and are incapable to contributing anything worthwhile to society definitely need to be locked up and stay there!

12-12-2006, 06:07 PM	#7
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Were these guys ever caught again after they jumped bail CD? I hope people didnt get it confused when I was arguing that I said these guys had a right to bail. When I said that I was not by any means saying they didnt deserve to go to prison. Ripping off innocent people especially the elderly is a pretty low thing to do and when you are ripping people off from their life savings you certainly deserve to go to prison for a while. I just hope no one got it confused with what I was saying earlier, I was not saying these guy didnt deserve to go to prison because they did deserve to go to prison.