Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / View New Posts (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board

Chit Chat - Main Board / Games / Movies / Music / Sports / Video Games / Chit Chat - Classic / View Latest Threads in All Chit Chat Boards


Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > Chit Chat > Chit Chat - Classic
Register Community View Today's Active Threads (No CC/CC Only) Search Photo Galleries Calendar FAQ

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Facebook X/Twitter Bluesky Threads Instagram YouTube RSS

SitcomsOnline Digest: Paramount and Warner Merger on Hold; Paramount+ Cancels Crutch
Hulu's Desperate Housewives Wisteria Lane Block Party; Whitmer Thomas HBO Comedy Special
Fox's Stewie Announces Voice Cast; Clash of the Thundermans Premiere Date and Details, with Ariel Winter Joining the Cast
Nirvanna the Band the Show on Hulu & Hulu on Disney+; Netflix's Untold Returns August 25
First Look at Netflix's A Different World; Great American Family's 6th Annual Christmas Slate Begins in October with Laura Vandervoort Movie
Stuart Fails to Save the Universe Official Podcast; All-Star Cast for Elizabeth Banks Apple TV Comedy
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of July 20, 2026)


New on DVD and Blu-ray

Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD) The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray) The Bill Dana Show - The Complete Series (DVD) I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (Blu-ray) Perfect Strangers - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)

01/20/26 - The Woody Woodpecker and Friends Golden Age Collection (Blu-ray)
01/27/26 - The New Fred and Barney Show - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
02/11/26 - Tom and Jerry - The Complete CinemaScope Collection (Blu-ray)
03/24/26 - Looney Tunes Collector's Vault - Volume 2 (Blu-ray)
04/11/26 - Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD)
04/21/26 - Famous Studios Champion Collection (Blu-ray) (DVD)
05/19/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
05/19/26 - Looney Tunes Cartoons - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) (DVD)
06/16/26 - Difficult People - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
06/30/26 - Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
07/14/26 - The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)
07/28/26 - The Bill Dana Show - The Complete Series (DVD)
07/28/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (Blu-ray)
08/25/26 - Perfect Strangers - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
09/22/26 - Bridget Loves Bernie - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)

More Recent and Upcoming TV DVD and Blu-ray Releases / TV Shows on DVD, Blu-ray and Prime Video / DVD Reviews Archive


Search Sitcoms Online:



Donate

Please make a donation if you can help with Sitcoms Online's web hosting costs. Thanks for your support!

We receive a small commission on all DVDs, Blu-rays, CDs, Books, and any other items ordered through our Amazon.com links as an associate. Thanks for using our links for your online shopping!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-08-2006, 10:37 PM   #1
Jenya
Supervisor
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
Jenya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 20, 2003
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Posts: 3,359
Send a message via Yahoo to Jenya
Cool Unlike That Phony Santa Claus, Father Frost Brings Gifts to all The Kids on New Years

Ded Moroz

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

For the Russian fairy tale Father Frost, see Father Frost (fairy tale)

In the culture of the eastern Slavs the traditional character Ded Moroz (Russian: Дед Мороз) plays a role similar to that of Santa Claus. The literal translation of the name would be Grandfather Frost. However, English-speakers traditionally translate his name as Father Frost.

Ded Moroz brings presents to children. However, unlike the clandestine ways of Santa Claus, he brings them in person, at the celebrations of the New Year, at New Year parties for kids by the New Year Tree. Ded Moroz is accompanied by Snegurochka (Russian: Снегурочка), or 'Snow Maiden', his granddaughter.

The traditional appearance of Ded Moroz has a close resemblance to that of Santa Claus, with his red coat, boots and long white beard. Specifically, Ded Moroz wears a heel-long red fur coat, a semi-round fur hat, and white valenki or high boots (sapogi), silver or red with silver ornament. Unlike Santa Claus, he walks with a long magical staff, does not say "Ho, ho, ho", and drives no reindeer.

The official residence of Ded Moroz in Russia is the town of Veliky Ustyug. The residence of the Belarusian Dzied Maroz is in Belavezhskaya Pushcha.

History
Image:USSR Postcard 21.jpg
Soviet Ded Moroz in a blue coat on a happy new year card

His roots are in pagan beliefs, but since 19th century his attributes and legend were shaped under literary influences. He, together with Snegurochka, were "fleshed out" from a kind of a winter sprite into what he is now. The fairy tale play Snegurochka by the famous Russian playwright Alexander Ostrovsky was influential in this respect, followed by Rimsky-Korsakov's Snegurochka with libretto based on the play.

Only by the end of the 19th century did Ded Moroz win a "competition" between the various mythical figures who were in charge of New Year presents: Grandfather Nicholas, Santa Claus, Ded Treskun, Morozko, simply Moroz, etc. He perfectly fits the Russian traditions, so that there was a widespread opinion that he has been known to Russians for centuries.

After the Russian Revolution, when in 1920s Bolsheviks started to wage a campaign against religion and superstitions, Ded Moroz and the New Year Tree were banned in 1928, and Ded Moroz was declared "an ally of the priest and kulak".[1]. Joseph Stalin restored the tradition in 1935, after the recommendation of Pavel Postyshev, who had considered the traditions as a tool with which to fight both Christianity and to mobilize the workers.[1] In 1937, Ded Moroz for the first time arrived at the Moscow Palace of Unions. Since this time, an invitation to the New Year Tree at the Palace of Unions became a matter of honor for Soviet children. Several times, the coat of Ded Moroz was changed to not be confused with Santa Claus; it was made blue. Joseph Stalin ordered Palace of Unions' Ded Morozes to wear only blue coats.

[edit] Regional differences

There are equivalents of Ded Moroz and Snegurochka all over the former USSR, as well as the countries once in the so-called Soviet bloc.

[edit] Belarus

Dzied Maroz (Belarusian: Дзед Мароз, Dzied Maróz, literally "Grandfather Frost") is the Belarusian analogue of Russian Ded Moroz. His official residence is located in Biełavieskaja Pušča.

Unlike in Russia, in Belarus dzied Maroz is not a traditional character and is never mentioned in national folklore. This character was introduced during Soviet times in order to replace the traditional Śviaty Mikałaj (Saint Nicholas), whom the anti-religious Soviet government considered inappropriate. Unlike Śviaty Mikałaj, who was coming on Christmas, Dzied Maroz was a New Year guest. All his habits and looks were borrowed from Russian traditions, with Belarusian ones being abandoned.

Although some people are making attempts to bring Śviaty Mikałaj back, Dzied Maroz remains to be the popular winter holiday character, mainly because most people are familiar with Soviet customs, and know almost nothing about Belarusian national traditions.

[edit] Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro

In Bosnia and Herzegovina, the person who brings New Year's gifts to kids of all religions is called Djeda Mraz in Bosnian, much alike Деда Мраз (Deda Mraz) in Serbia or Дядо Мраз (Djado Mraz) in Bulgaria. In Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, the name is Дедо Мраз (Dedo Mraz), and in Serbian part of Bosnia and Herzegovina and in Montenegro, the variation of this person's name is Ijekavian Serbian Дједа Мраз (Djeda Mraz), like in Bosnian. In Croati his name is Djed Mraz or Deda Mraz He wears red clothes, just like Father Christmas, but he's not always fat.

[edit] Slovenia

In Slovenia he is called Dedek Mraz (Grandpa Frost) and is quite different in appearance from the american Santa Claus. He is slim, wears a grey coat and a round fur cap.

[edit] Three good old guys

After the demise of the communist regime in the begining of the 1990's, two other good old men reappeared in public: Miklavž (Saint Nicholas) brings presents on December 6, and Božiček (Father Christmas) on the Christmas Eve. Dedek Mraz is active during all of December and may top the gifts on the New Year's Eve. There are familly preferences according to creed. In public the three good guys avoid conflict, they are even featured together, as friends. Dedek Mraz, due to his confessional neutrality, has retained a strong public presence.

[edit] Poland

While there is no traditional analog of Ded Moroz in Polish folklore, there was an attempt to introduce him as Dziadek Mróz during the communist period. In the People's Republic of Poland the figure Dziadek Mróz was used in propaganda, since the traditional Święty Mikołaj (Saint Nicholas, the Polish Santa Claus) was determined to be "ideologically hostile", as part of the campaign against religion, which included elimination of Christmas in favor of New Year. Often officials insisted on using the figure in Polish schools and preschools during celebrations and events for Polish children, instead of Santa Claus in order to give impression of traditional cultural links with Soviet Russia. Despite those efforts, Dziadek Mróz never gained any popular support among the Polish people, and after the fall of communism he disappeared from Poland.[2]

[edit] Romania

Moş Gerilă was, in Communist Romania, a replacement of Father Christmas (Moş Crăciun), being part of the Communist offensive against religion. Its name is a Romanian language adaptation of Russian Ded Moroz.

In 1948, after the Communists gained power in Romania, it was decided that Christmas should not be celebrated in Romania, 25 December and 26 December being working days and no official celebrations were to be held. As a replacement of Moş Crăciun, a new character was introduced, Moş Gerilă (literally "Old Man Frosty"), who brought gifts to children on 31 December.

Officially, the New Year's Day celebrations began on 30 December, which was named the Day of the Republic, since it was the day when King Mihai I of Romania abdicated in 1947.

After the Romanian Revolution of 1989, Moş Gerilă lost his influence, being replaced with Moş Crăciun.[3]

[edit] Germany

The Väterchen Frost ("Old Father Frost") character of German folklore is also closely related to the tradition of Ded Moroz, some simularities Ded Moroz also shares with French Père Noël (Grandfather January).

[edit] Tatar

In Tatar language he is known as Qış Babay/Кыш Бабай (Winter Grandfather) and is accompanied by Qar Qızı/Кар Кызы (Snow Girl).

Ded Moroz
__________________
Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead!
Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead!
Head-On...Apply directly to the Forehead!


*Head-ON is available without a Prescription
Jenya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2006, 01:13 AM   #2
Jenya
Supervisor
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
Jenya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 20, 2003
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Posts: 3,359
Send a message via Yahoo to Jenya
Default

I grew up with Ded Moroz as a child. A Russian version of your Santa Claus.

Jenya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2006, 02:48 PM   #3
Czas na Zywiec
what up
Forum Star
 
Czas na Zywiec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 28, 2001
Location: Southwest Side, Chicago
Posts: 18,398
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenya
[edit] Poland

While there is no traditional analog of Ded Moroz in Polish folklore, there was an attempt to introduce him as Dziadek Mróz during the communist period. In the People's Republic of Poland the figure Dziadek Mróz was used in propaganda, since the traditional Święty Mikołaj (Saint Nicholas, the Polish Santa Claus) was determined to be "ideologically hostile", as part of the campaign against religion, which included elimination of Christmas in favor of New Year. Often officials insisted on using the figure in Polish schools and preschools during celebrations and events for Polish children, instead of Santa Claus in order to give impression of traditional cultural links with Soviet Russia. Despite those efforts, Dziadek Mróz never gained any popular support among the Polish people, and after the fall of communism he disappeared from Poland.[2]
Good that it never caught on, we'd rather keep our Swiety Mikolaj and December 6th thank you very much.
Czas na Zywiec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2006, 06:54 PM   #4
Jenya
Supervisor
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
Jenya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 20, 2003
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Posts: 3,359
Send a message via Yahoo to Jenya
Default

You probably had the hots for Snegurochka- his snow maiden.
Jenya is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-11-2006, 08:07 PM   #5
dragster58
Member
Forum Regular
 
dragster58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 12, 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 613
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenya
You probably had the hots for Snegurochka- his snow maiden.

I LOVE how you put that.......speaking about TRUE DEMOCRACY!!!!
Thank you!!!!
dragster58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2006, 12:38 PM   #6
Jenya
Supervisor
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
Jenya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 20, 2003
Location: Canmore, Alberta
Posts: 3,359
Send a message via Yahoo to Jenya
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dragster58
I LOVE how you put that.......speaking about TRUE DEMOCRACY!!!!
Thank you!!!!
The fact is, in Russia today, children are not even taught about the stories of either "Granfather Frost" or "Santa Claus". Most families prefer to give surprises to their children during this time of year.
Jenya is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:16 PM.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.