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LooksLikeCRicci · 12-04-2006, 12:50 AM

I'm in the process of writing final papers for law school and was reviewing some of my favorite UM segments at this time. The Jeffrey MacDonald story is one of those that's on my list. UM does a great job of presenting his side of the story, in addition to showing some of the information that helped convict him. I know it's been hashed out over and over again on these boards, but I'm just curious: How many of you believe Dr. MacDonald's story?

Dislimb · 12-04-2006, 01:46 AM

Innocent.

Awsi Dooger · 12-04-2006, 01:57 AM

I'm going back and forth on this one. Whether Joe McGinniss should face a firing squad or lethal injection.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 12-04-2006, 06:46 AM

Guilty!! Throw away the key!

kadrmas15 · 12-04-2006, 08:21 AM

I think the prosecutor should be locked up and MacDonald freed. Oh wait the prosecutor already did a few years in a federal prison for various offenses. Free MacDonald! Hey Awsi did you ever write to MacDonald?

Thinman · 12-04-2006, 10:09 AM

Guilty as hell.

Awsi Dooger · 12-04-2006, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadrmas15

I think the prosecutor should be locked up and MacDonald freed. Oh wait the prosecutor already did a few years in a federal prison for various offenses. Free MacDonald! Hey Awsi did you ever write to MacDonald?

I wrote a brief email to the contact section of his website. Never received a reply. I'd like to find his prison cellmate from the '80s, a guy named Kenny who I mentioned a few times on this board. Maybe Kenny would like to post something here, or send Dr. MacDonald a note. But Kenny is someone I run into very infrequently.

One friend of mine named Carl knows Kenny's last name, but I don't have it. Maybe if I had the last name we could verify that Kenny was in the same prison at the time MacDonald was. At least one member of this forum frequently mentions looking up info like that.

Kenny said at least half the guys he met in prison proclaimed innocence, but Dr. MacDonald was the only one he ever believed. I'm not asserting that's conclusive, but it goes along with the impression I've always had about the case, especially after watching the BBC account which included interviews with Helena Stoeckley.

Thinman · 12-05-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger

I wrote a brief email to the contact section of his website. Never received a reply.

SHOCKER!

Awsi Dooger · 12-05-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinman

SHOCKER!

Yeah, well apparently it shocked you. When I posted that I was thinking of sending Dr. MacDonald a message you posted he was sure to contact me immediately, begging for money to support his case.

Thinman · 12-05-2006, 10:47 PM

No, I said you shouldn't be surprised if the only response you receive is a form letter asking for a $5 donation to the "defense fund". This would come from someone like yourself who actually believes MacDonald's fairy tale. Not Mac himself.

kadrmas15 · 12-06-2006, 12:40 PM

Well thinman I personally think you need to bring something of substance to the table. I mean it is obvious that your personal hatred of MacDonald clouds your judgement so much that you think he is just pure evil. I mean that is fine that you hate MacDonald and think he is guilty, you have the right to think that. However why dont you for once actually back up the fact that you think he is guilty instead of just saying "guilty." I think it is because you know you cannot prove it and that the governments case was a bunch of crap.

An 80s Guy · 12-06-2006, 12:47 PM

Could soemone tell me what this story was about.

LooksLikeCRicci · 12-06-2006, 06:11 PM

This is a VERY condensed version of what happened, so you should search the boards to find out more, but here's the story in a nutshell:

Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald was a Green Beret. One evening, his entire family was murdered and MacDonald himself was attacked. His wife and two little girls did not survive the attack, and I believe he was stabbed in the lung. After an investigation, Dr. MacDonald was charged with three counts of murder. After a lengthy court battle, he was convicted.

Dr. MacDonald claims that he is innocent and that a group of hippies killed his family. His recount of the story is that he fell asleep in front of the T.V. and woke up to someone screaming, "Acid is groovy, kill the pigs." When he woke up, he was attacked and beaten with a club.

The prosecution pointed out that the living room was largely undisturbed and looked like no struggle had taken place. In addition, the only blood evidence found in the house came from the members of the MacDonald family.

There's a lot more to the case, but I'm going to leave it at the barest. Like I said, Dr. MacDonald is a popular topic on these boards... search a bit and you'll find the WHOLE story.

mystery_daisy · 01-06-2007, 04:18 PM

I think he's guilty. He thought he could get away with it because a. he's a doctor b. he's high ranking military c. the hysteria of the manson murders might take eyes off him.
He is evil and sick and is where he belongs.

Huskerz85 · 01-06-2007, 04:45 PM

I remember hearing something to the effect that the lady in the floppy hat, gave some interview to the BBC shortly before she died in which she gave up to two-three people involved........

I could be mixed up though

View Poll Results: Do you believe Jeffrey MacDonald's story?
Yes-- He's been wrongly convicted	48	27.59%
No-- He's a convict and he's where he belongs	94	54.02%
The jury's still deliberating	32	18.39%
Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll

12-04-2006, 12:50 AM	#1
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Jeffrey MacDonald: Convict or Wrongly Convicted? I'm in the process of writing final papers for law school and was reviewing some of my favorite UM segments at this time. The Jeffrey MacDonald story is one of those that's on my list. UM does a great job of presenting his side of the story, in addition to showing some of the information that helped convict him. I know it's been hashed out over and over again on these boards, but I'm just curious: How many of you believe Dr. MacDonald's story?

01-06-2007, 04:18 PM	#14
mystery_daisy True Crime Buff Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 14, 2006 Location: Galveston Bay Posts: 3,118	I think he's guilty. He thought he could get away with it because a. he's a doctor b. he's high ranking military c. the hysteria of the manson murders might take eyes off him. He is evil and sick and is where he belongs.
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12-04-2006, 01:46 AM	#2
Dislimb Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2006 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 431	Innocent.

12-04-2006, 01:57 AM	#3
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	I'm going back and forth on this one. Whether Joe McGinniss should face a firing squad or lethal injection.

12-04-2006, 06:46 AM	#4
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	Guilty!! Throw away the key!

12-04-2006, 08:21 AM	#5
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	I think the prosecutor should be locked up and MacDonald freed. Oh wait the prosecutor already did a few years in a federal prison for various offenses. Free MacDonald! Hey Awsi did you ever write to MacDonald?

12-04-2006, 10:09 AM	#6
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	Guilty as hell.

12-05-2006, 10:47 PM	#10
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	No, I said you shouldn't be surprised if the only response you receive is a form letter asking for a $5 donation to the "defense fund". This would come from someone like yourself who actually believes MacDonald's fairy tale. Not Mac himself.

12-06-2006, 12:40 PM	#11
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well thinman I personally think you need to bring something of substance to the table. I mean it is obvious that your personal hatred of MacDonald clouds your judgement so much that you think he is just pure evil. I mean that is fine that you hate MacDonald and think he is guilty, you have the right to think that. However why dont you for once actually back up the fact that you think he is guilty instead of just saying "guilty." I think it is because you know you cannot prove it and that the governments case was a bunch of crap.

12-06-2006, 12:47 PM	#12
An 80s Guy legen-wait for it-dary! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 03, 2005 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 1,870	Could soemone tell me what this story was about.

12-06-2006, 06:11 PM	#13
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	This is a VERY condensed version of what happened, so you should search the boards to find out more, but here's the story in a nutshell: Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald was a Green Beret. One evening, his entire family was murdered and MacDonald himself was attacked. His wife and two little girls did not survive the attack, and I believe he was stabbed in the lung. After an investigation, Dr. MacDonald was charged with three counts of murder. After a lengthy court battle, he was convicted. Dr. MacDonald claims that he is innocent and that a group of hippies killed his family. His recount of the story is that he fell asleep in front of the T.V. and woke up to someone screaming, "Acid is groovy, kill the pigs." When he woke up, he was attacked and beaten with a club. The prosecution pointed out that the living room was largely undisturbed and looked like no struggle had taken place. In addition, the only blood evidence found in the house came from the members of the MacDonald family. There's a lot more to the case, but I'm going to leave it at the barest. Like I said, Dr. MacDonald is a popular topic on these boards... search a bit and you'll find the WHOLE story.

01-06-2007, 04:45 PM	#15
Huskerz85 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 31, 2006 Location: Westeros Posts: 740	I remember hearing something to the effect that the lady in the floppy hat, gave some interview to the BBC shortly before she died in which she gave up to two-three people involved........ I could be mixed up though