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Brian Damage · 12-03-2006, 12:07 PM

This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.

gilligan fanatic · 12-03-2006, 12:58 PM

Too much drama for me. Still better than Beverly dieing. Christmas Day at the Bunkers is my favorite.

MikeLutton · 12-03-2006, 01:19 PM

i never liked this episode too much drama for me n dont like hearing about the way n xmas come think of it did the bunkers ever have a good christmas lol

Brieannas21 · 12-03-2006, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gilligan fanatic

Too much drama for me. Still better than Beverly dieing. Christmas Day at the Bunkers is my favorite.

I have to agree, it was way better than the Beverly LaSalle episode, that episode was just plain sad and depressing.

Lamont · 12-03-2006, 10:56 PM

both are EXCELLENT episodes

The Draft Dodger was SO POWERFUL at the time because of all the tensions and divisions in the nation

BUT at the same time when Beverly was killed and Edith lost faith--- that wa a classic too and i loved how Mike, the Atheist was the one to restore ediths faith with his speech about God and how he viewed God (if there was one) through edith

TVFactFan · 12-04-2006, 12:30 AM

I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

snl 70s show fan · 12-04-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

me too but i agree with you solomon it was one of the all time best eps.

Brian Damage · 12-04-2006, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

Yeah, I never saw Archie react that way for anything. lol

MikeLutton · 12-04-2006, 01:18 AM

well expect the time when he saw the picture of Lionel and his neice together sitting on a chair i thought he pop a vaine that time lol

Brieannas21 · 12-04-2006, 01:26 AM

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well expect the time when he saw the picture of Lionel and his neice together sitting on a chair i thought he pop a vaine that time lol

Or the time when he found out that in Gloria and Mikes will, that they were leaving baby Joey to mike's and Gloria friends LOL.

Already Gone · 12-24-2006, 06:17 PM

I like this episode. The mix of comedy and drama made it a classic. If it wasn't for Pinky Peterson, I'm sure that Archie would have kicked David out of the house.

HelloLarry · 12-26-2006, 09:20 PM

Ive never seen it documented anywhere but does anyone know why Archie's 'freak out' is censored?

He clearly says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production.

I just found it strange because AITF already broke that taboo three seasons earlier in the "We're Having a Heat Wave" episode and its not as if they abused saying Goddman it after that.

Now this is just a theory and we won't know until the episode is officially released in the season 7 set but was this re-recorded for syndication? Originally, whenever We're Having a Heat Wave aired, that scene with Archie saying GD was cut (it was restored in favor of editing out other scenes when it first played Nick at Nite back in the late 90s). Or is it possible that the network didn't want that said in a Christmas episode? I know that may be a little far fetched after how many barriers the season broke down by season 7 but its just another thought.

I just got through reading the book about Norman Lear and the author makes mention (or suggests) that Archie does indeed say GD in the Draft Dodger episode and he clearly does...however it is dubbed over.

The overdub...for me, actually takes a small bite out of the punch of his delivery. His tone clearly drops in the overdub and then goes back up when it goes back to the original audio.

Anyone have any knowledge or input on this?

Thanks....Happy Holidays!

mstewart · 12-26-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.

It was mine too in that season given it was one of the worst seasons of the show. In that particular episode Carroll O'Connor turned in a powerful performance as Archie Bunker. I felt the power of his wage and passion about dodging the draft. I believe the audience felt the power too when he went off. Carroll's face transformed when he went into a rage about the war and it was not one of Archie Bunker's usual rants and putting his foot in his mouth but it was a issue strong passion. Carroll brought that out in his performance.
That episode definitely belonged to Carroll.

mrbig · 01-04-2007, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.

It was a great reflection in history with the vietam war... I agree with knowing how patriotic was I also thought he was going pop a blood vessel.. I think that was one of the 1st times I
heard archie swear using the GD word refering to the vietam war.

An 80s Guy · 01-04-2007, 05:14 PM

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clearly[/I] says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production.

They usually censor"God Damn" nowadays because it's breaking one of the ten commandments "Thy shall not use the Lord's name in vain".

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12-26-2006, 09:20 PM	#12
HelloLarry Meathead Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 273	The Draft Dodger Ive never seen it documented anywhere but does anyone know why Archie's 'freak out' is censored? He clearly says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production. I just found it strange because AITF already broke that taboo three seasons earlier in the "We're Having a Heat Wave" episode and its not as if they abused saying Goddman it after that. Now this is just a theory and we won't know until the episode is officially released in the season 7 set but was this re-recorded for syndication? Originally, whenever We're Having a Heat Wave aired, that scene with Archie saying GD was cut (it was restored in favor of editing out other scenes when it first played Nick at Nite back in the late 90s). Or is it possible that the network didn't want that said in a Christmas episode? I know that may be a little far fetched after how many barriers the season broke down by season 7 but its just another thought. I just got through reading the book about Norman Lear and the author makes mention (or suggests) that Archie does indeed say GD in the Draft Dodger episode and he clearly does...however it is dubbed over. The overdub...for me, actually takes a small bite out of the punch of his delivery. His tone clearly drops in the overdub and then goes back up when it goes back to the original audio. Anyone have any knowledge or input on this? Thanks....Happy Holidays!

12-03-2006, 01:19 PM	#3
MikeLutton Mike Lutton DVD Legend! Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 05, 2005 Location: usa pennsyvania Posts: 6,887	i never liked this episode too much drama for me n dont like hearing about the way n xmas come think of it did the bunkers ever have a good christmas lol

12-04-2006, 12:30 AM	#6
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,088	I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

12-04-2006, 01:18 AM	#9
MikeLutton Mike Lutton DVD Legend! Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 05, 2005 Location: usa pennsyvania Posts: 6,887	well expect the time when he saw the picture of Lionel and his neice together sitting on a chair i thought he pop a vaine that time lol

12-24-2006, 06:17 PM	#11
Already Gone Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 31, 2004 Posts: 2,587	I like this episode. The mix of comedy and drama made it a classic. If it wasn't for Pinky Peterson, I'm sure that Archie would have kicked David out of the house.