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*ClassicPinUp* · 11-10-2006, 10:57 PM

I was reading up on some Honeymooner info & found this interesting clip. I know in "Love, Alice" she talks about this scene but I have yet to come across this & was curious as to whether anyone else had. This person says the kinescope is lost but is it really?
---Just a reminder I did NOT write this. I found it on a web site.----

"There's a great story about one time Carney got in trouble on live TV. It was a "Honeymooners" sketch on the Gleason show, and Gleason exited a scene and ran off to his dressing room to change clothes — which he should not have done. He forgot that the scene had been rewritten and extended. He was supposed to go back in and engage Art/Ed in more dialogue but he forgot, leaving his sidekick sitting at the Kramden dining table, waiting for Ralph to return and play the rest of the dialogue. When Ralph didn't come, Art realized he had to fill — this is live TV, remember — so he walked over, opened the ice box and found there was nothing in it but an orange. He took it, sat down and did two minutes of orange-peeling. A stage manager finally got Gleason back so the scene could resume but as Jackie himself told the story, those two minutes were the funniest two minutes in the entire hour, maybe the entire season.The kinescope is apparently lost but I'm sure it was wonderful.Because Art Carney didn't know how to be anything less."

*ClassicPinUp* · 11-11-2006, 10:06 AM

Here's where I found this information from http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2003_11_12.html You have to scroll down a bit to see where that was written but you can't miss it since it has 2 pictures of Art Carney. Thanks for your input maybe this mystery can be solved

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I read through that thread you posted & also read about Art Carney coming through the window & saying "there's more than one way to skin a cat." I really wish Audrey Meadows would have named the episode that was from because this going to drive me nuts.

The Great One · 11-11-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AndAwayWeGo

I was reading up on some Honeymooner info & found this interesting clip. I know in "Love, Alice" she talks about this scene but I have yet to come across this & was curious as to whether anyone else had. This person says the kinescope is lost but is it really?
---Just a reminder I did NOT write this. I found it on a web site.----

"There's a great story about one time Carney got in trouble on live TV. It was a "Honeymooners" sketch on the Gleason show, and Gleason exited a scene and ran off to his dressing room to change clothes — which he should not have done. He forgot that the scene had been rewritten and extended. He was supposed to go back in and engage Art/Ed in more dialogue but he forgot, leaving his sidekick sitting at the Kramden dining table, waiting for Ralph to return and play the rest of the dialogue. When Ralph didn't come, Art realized he had to fill — this is live TV, remember — so he walked over, opened the ice box and found there was nothing in it but an orange. He took it, sat down and did two minutes of orange-peeling. A stage manager finally got Gleason back so the scene could resume but as Jackie himself told the story, those two minutes were the funniest two minutes in the entire hour, maybe the entire season.The kinescope is apparently lost but I'm sure it was wonderful.Because Art Carney didn't know how to be anything less."

I read about this before but I can't recall which book it was from but I do remember that it mentioned that the kinescope had deteriorated. It would be unfortunate if that's true so I'm hoping it's just another "lost episode".
Let's keep our fingers crossed!

*ClassicPinUp* · 11-11-2006, 04:36 PM

I know I kept reading the messages of people saying "oh I remember hearing that" & kept hoping that maybe the next post they would say what episode but nope. Thing is I seem to recall it to but now I'm not sure if I actually did or if it's just wishful thinking

. Eh we'll get it..one of these days

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The Great One · 11-11-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill S.

^^I never heard about the kinescope being deteriorated before, this is news to me. It must be one of the few sketches that have been listed as "Still Lost." As for the door incident, I clearly recall hearing that "more than one way to skin a cat" line come out of Carney's mouth. It's frustrating because I've heard so many different accounts of these stories and no one ever mentions what episode it was or gives any major plot details.

If I rememeber in what book I read that story in I'll post that information in this thread.

11-10-2006, 10:57 PM	#1
ClassicPinUp ***** Senior Member** Join Date: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 2,246	Curious about this. I was reading up on some Honeymooner info & found this interesting clip. I know in "Love, Alice" she talks about this scene but I have yet to come across this & was curious as to whether anyone else had. This person says the kinescope is lost but is it really? ---Just a reminder I did NOT write this. I found it on a web site.---- "There's a great story about one time Carney got in trouble on live TV. It was a "Honeymooners" sketch on the Gleason show, and Gleason exited a scene and ran off to his dressing room to change clothes — which he should not have done. He forgot that the scene had been rewritten and extended. He was supposed to go back in and engage Art/Ed in more dialogue but he forgot, leaving his sidekick sitting at the Kramden dining table, waiting for Ralph to return and play the rest of the dialogue. When Ralph didn't come, Art realized he had to fill — this is live TV, remember — so he walked over, opened the ice box and found there was nothing in it but an orange. He took it, sat down and did two minutes of orange-peeling. A stage manager finally got Gleason back so the scene could resume but as Jackie himself told the story, those two minutes were the funniest two minutes in the entire hour, maybe the entire season.The kinescope is apparently lost but I'm sure it was wonderful.Because Art Carney didn't know how to be anything less."
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11-11-2006, 10:06 AM	#2
ClassicPinUp ***** Senior Member** Join Date: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 2,246	Here's where I found this information from http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2003_11_12.html You have to scroll down a bit to see where that was written but you can't miss it since it has 2 pictures of Art Carney. Thanks for your input maybe this mystery can be solved . I read through that thread you posted & also read about Art Carney coming through the window & saying "there's more than one way to skin a cat." I really wish Audrey Meadows would have named the episode that was from because this going to drive me nuts.
	Last edited by ClassicPinUp; 11-11-2006 at 12:33 PM.

11-11-2006, 04:36 PM	#4
ClassicPinUp ***** Senior Member** Join Date: Oct 28, 2006 Posts: 2,246	I know I kept reading the messages of people saying "oh I remember hearing that" & kept hoping that maybe the next post they would say what episode but nope. Thing is I seem to recall it to but now I'm not sure if I actually did or if it's just wishful thinking . Eh we'll get it..one of these days .