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elvisfan · 10-31-2006, 04:29 PM

I've seen a bunch of these but have forgotten the names and exact cases. Anyone?

greatgarrett2 · 11-01-2006, 12:41 AM

No problem-

1. Justin Burwinkle.....the guy who was stationed near Tacoma, Washington and went missing. Before his dissappearence he made a cryptic reference to the movie 'White Sands'. His car was found abandoned at a remote Northern California motel, with his dog-tag.

2. Frank Olsen.....apparently the government agency he was working for slipped him a laced drink with LSD, along with other scientists who were slipped drinks also. Olsen was acting paranoid in the days prior to his death, then he supposedly committed suicide by 'jumping' from a ten-storey window that was actually 13 stories off the ground. Was it suicide or murder?

3. Ralph Sigler.....died under mysterious circumstances in a Maryland motel room (I believe it was Maryland, correct me if I'm wrong, tho).

4. Mark Dennis.....A Navy Medic who started to serve in Vietnam in 1966. That same year, his family received word that he was in a helicopter and that it had been brought down, resulting in Dennis' death. They immediately accepted his death. But, when the casket was returned to the US, the body in it was so badly burned that a uniform (possibly his) was placed over the remains. Then a man came forward saying he thought he saw Dennis AFTER his date of death. Various sightings and evidence suggests it was not Mark who perished in that helicopter and that Mark shouldn't have been on that flight. Speculation ran that Mark dennis was a possible POW.......did he perish with the helicopter or was he being held years after?

Hope that helps.....if I think of anymore, I'll post them.

baton_man · 11-02-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgarrett2

No problem-

1. Justin Burwinkle.....the guy who was stationed near Tacoma, Washington and went missing. Before his dissappearence he made a cryptic reference to the movie 'White Sands'. His car was found abandoned at a remote Northern California motel, with his dog-tag.

2. Frank Olsen.....apparently the government agency he was working for slipped him a laced drink with LSD, along with other scientists who were slipped drinks also. Olsen was acting paranoid in the days prior to his death, then he supposedly committed suicide by 'jumping' from a ten-storey window that was actually 13 stories off the ground. Was it suicide or murder?

3. Ralph Sigler.....died under mysterious circumstances in a Maryland motel room (I believe it was Maryland, correct me if I'm wrong, tho).

4. Mark Dennis.....A Navy Medic who started to serve in Vietnam in 1966. That same year, his family received word that he was in a helicopter and that it had been brought down, resulting in Dennis' death. They immediately accepted his death. But, when the casket was returned to the US, the body in it was so badly burned that a uniform (possibly his) was placed over the remains. Then a man came forward saying he thought he saw Dennis AFTER his date of death. Various sightings and evidence suggests it was not Mark who perished in that helicopter and that Mark shouldn't have been on that flight. Speculation ran that Mark dennis was a possible POW.......did he perish with the helicopter or was he being held years after?

Hope that helps.....if I think of anymore, I'll post them.

you are correct in reference to the Ralph Sigler account. It occurred near Fort George G. Meade. I live right down the road from the hotel it occurred at.

Gatorsgold · 08-09-2007, 11:27 PM

Baton Man;
I personally know the Sigler family and they have suffered alot through the years. Mr. Sigler's daughter has written many FOIA letters all the government agencies Mr. Sigler was associated with. She has received alot of blacked out responses and most recently a letter stating that this case was secured under the "Patriot Act". Maybe some day someone will clear their conscious or someone will come forward and help this family solve this mystery. One thing i can tell you for sure is that it was a murder not a suicide. Gator

ForeverPluto · 08-10-2007, 02:53 PM

What about the two men who supposedly committed suicide within days of each other. I think one of the guys was found hanging from a tree and the other guy was found hanging from his locker or something like that. Both were in the army. Both married or were involved with Asian women at the time of their deaths. Very bizarre cases...

Also the cases of Chad Lankfort, Justin Burgwinkel (sp??), Ralph Siegler. These are theone I remember off hand...

UMfan77 · 08-10-2007, 03:16 PM

How about Digman (forgot his first name). He was a Marine and was found dead in his home. The parents say it was murder but the police say it was suicide. The parents believe the murder was connected to their son's military duties.

James T · 08-10-2007, 06:08 PM

And it is not just in America, over here we have had several deaths at an army base called Deepcut of young soldiers which have been ruled as suicides when there is strong evidence the people were often being bullied and were shot by other soldiers or persons unknown in a very similar manner to those shown on UM. This evidence has been covered up at every opportunity by the army and police force.

DP1 · 08-12-2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UMfan77

How about Digman (forgot his first name). He was a Marine and was found dead in his home. The parents say it was murder but the police say it was suicide. The parents believe the murder was connected to their son's military duties.

I remember that case. I always found it strange that his friend, a fellow Marine, didn't want to go into the house without one of the neighbors. He was a Marine, I would have thought he'd have gone in alone.

Todd Mueller · 08-12-2007, 11:23 PM

There is one on the "Bizarre Murders" DVD set about the military transport plane that crashed in Nova Scotia (I think) under strange circumstances. There is strong evidence to believe that they were carrying illegal cargo that caused the crash.

And the Lost Dutchman's Mine had military in it, as it was believed the military came in and took the gold from the family that found it. That was a good one too.

CanadianUMFan · 08-14-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Mueller

There is one on the "Bizarre Murders" DVD set about the military transport plane that crashed in Nova Scotia (I think) under strange circumstances. There is strong evidence to believe that they were carrying illegal cargo that caused the crash.

One correction - the plane crashed near Gander, Newfoundland.

Todd Mueller · 08-15-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadianUMFan

One correction - the plane crashed near Gander, Newfoundland.

DOH! I knew it was Canada and a province that starts with "N" but couldn't remember which one.

Thanks for the correction!

synthisislab · 05-05-2008, 04:13 AM

What were the details of the Ralph Sigler case and wasn't there another one that happened on base and it involved a MP (I believe) who was shot at the on base gas pumping facilities?

themaninblack · 05-05-2008, 04:48 PM

WOW!

charmedsignora · 05-05-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by synthisislab

wasn't there another one that happened on base and it involved a MP (I believe) who was shot at the on base gas pumping facilities?

I think I remember that one. Was that they case where they found him lying on a rock, and they couldn't determine if it was murder or suicide? (If not, I must be thinking of a different case. Sorry!)

jasonbigley · 05-09-2008, 05:31 PM

You know, if the government or military is truly involved in these cases, I hope they will be punished in some way. We may not know the actual truth, but the good Lord knows exactly whats going on. It seems that government is getting more crooked.

10-31-2006, 04:29 PM	#1
elvisfan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 10, 2003 Posts: 17	Military/Government Unsolved Mysteries I've seen a bunch of these but have forgotten the names and exact cases. Anyone?

11-01-2006, 12:41 AM	#2
greatgarrett2 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 11, 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 544	No problem- 1. Justin Burwinkle.....the guy who was stationed near Tacoma, Washington and went missing. Before his dissappearence he made a cryptic reference to the movie 'White Sands'. His car was found abandoned at a remote Northern California motel, with his dog-tag. 2. Frank Olsen.....apparently the government agency he was working for slipped him a laced drink with LSD, along with other scientists who were slipped drinks also. Olsen was acting paranoid in the days prior to his death, then he supposedly committed suicide by 'jumping' from a ten-storey window that was actually 13 stories off the ground. Was it suicide or murder? 3. Ralph Sigler.....died under mysterious circumstances in a Maryland motel room (I believe it was Maryland, correct me if I'm wrong, tho). 4. Mark Dennis.....A Navy Medic who started to serve in Vietnam in 1966. That same year, his family received word that he was in a helicopter and that it had been brought down, resulting in Dennis' death. They immediately accepted his death. But, when the casket was returned to the US, the body in it was so badly burned that a uniform (possibly his) was placed over the remains. Then a man came forward saying he thought he saw Dennis AFTER his date of death. Various sightings and evidence suggests it was not Mark who perished in that helicopter and that Mark shouldn't have been on that flight. Speculation ran that Mark dennis was a possible POW.......did he perish with the helicopter or was he being held years after? Hope that helps.....if I think of anymore, I'll post them.
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08-09-2007, 11:27 PM	#4
Gatorsgold Member First Time Poster Join Date: Aug 09, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1	Baton Man; I personally know the Sigler family and they have suffered alot through the years. Mr. Sigler's daughter has written many FOIA letters all the government agencies Mr. Sigler was associated with. She has received alot of blacked out responses and most recently a letter stating that this case was secured under the "Patriot Act". Maybe some day someone will clear their conscious or someone will come forward and help this family solve this mystery. One thing i can tell you for sure is that it was a murder not a suicide. Gator

08-10-2007, 02:53 PM	#5
ForeverPluto Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 22, 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 71	What about the two men who supposedly committed suicide within days of each other. I think one of the guys was found hanging from a tree and the other guy was found hanging from his locker or something like that. Both were in the army. Both married or were involved with Asian women at the time of their deaths. Very bizarre cases... Also the cases of Chad Lankfort, Justin Burgwinkel (sp??), Ralph Siegler. These are theone I remember off hand...

08-10-2007, 03:16 PM	#6
UMfan77 Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 28, 2003 Posts: 1,064	How about Digman (forgot his first name). He was a Marine and was found dead in his home. The parents say it was murder but the police say it was suicide. The parents believe the murder was connected to their son's military duties.

08-10-2007, 06:08 PM	#7
James T Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2006 Location: England Posts: 1,567	And it is not just in America, over here we have had several deaths at an army base called Deepcut of young soldiers which have been ruled as suicides when there is strong evidence the people were often being bullied and were shot by other soldiers or persons unknown in a very similar manner to those shown on UM. This evidence has been covered up at every opportunity by the army and police force.

08-12-2007, 11:23 PM	#9
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	There is one on the "Bizarre Murders" DVD set about the military transport plane that crashed in Nova Scotia (I think) under strange circumstances. There is strong evidence to believe that they were carrying illegal cargo that caused the crash. And the Lost Dutchman's Mine had military in it, as it was believed the military came in and took the gold from the family that found it. That was a good one too.

05-05-2008, 04:13 AM	#12
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	What were the details of the Ralph Sigler case and wasn't there another one that happened on base and it involved a MP (I believe) who was shot at the on base gas pumping facilities?

05-05-2008, 04:48 PM	#13
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 572	WOW!

05-09-2008, 05:31 PM	#15
jasonbigley Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 14, 2008 Location: California Posts: 501	You know, if the government or military is truly involved in these cases, I hope they will be punished in some way. We may not know the actual truth, but the good Lord knows exactly whats going on. It seems that government is getting more crooked.