Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / View New Posts (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board

General TV News and Discussion / View Latest Threads in General TV and Sub-Forums

TV Series on DVD/Streaming News and Discussion / Fantasy TV Channels/Schedules and Fictional TV Networks / Classic TV Schedules Archive / TV Theme Songs / Theme Song Lyrics: Requests and Archive

Broadcast Networks / ABC / CBS / Fox / NBC / The CW / UPN (1995-2006) / The WB (1995-2006) / MyNetworkTV / TV Ratings

Cable TV/Digital Channels / Antenna TV / BET / Bounce TV / Canadian Channels (CHCH) / Catchy Comedy / CMT / Comedy Central / Cozi TV / Dabl / Disney Channel / FETV / Freeform / FX / FXX / Great American Family / Great Entertainment Television (Great.) (formerly Get (get.) and getTV) / Hallmark Channel / H&I (Heroes & Icons) / The Hub / IFC / INSP / ION Television / Laff / Lifetime / Logo TV / MeTV / Nick at Nite / Nickelodeon / TeenNick / Oxygen / Retro TV / Rewind TV / Start TV / TBS / TNN / Spike TV / TNT / TV Land / TV One / Up TV (UPtv) / USA Network (USA) / WGN America / YTA TV (formerly GoodLife and AmericanLife)


Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > General TV News and Discussion > Broadcast Networks > NBC
Register Community View Today's Active Threads (No CC/CC Only) Search Photo Galleries Calendar FAQ

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Facebook X/Twitter Bluesky Threads Instagram YouTube RSS

Additional Fox Summer 2026 Dates; BET's Lot Patrol Premiere Date
Kids Make Me Angry Sneak Peek; Shrinking Adds Karen Gillan for Season 4
Netflix's A Different World Premieres September 24; Ted Danson Joins Elizabeth Banks Apple TV Comedy
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of June 1, 2026)
SitcomsOnline Digest: New Episodes of The Simpsons Headed Exclusively to Disney+; Release Date Set for Reboot of A Different World
Disney+ Announces Brand New The Simpsons Episodes; Remembering the Sitcom Stars and Crew Members We Recently Lost
CBC 2026-27 Programming Slate Includes New Original Comedies; Jay Shetty Podcast Heads to Netflix


New on DVD and Blu-ray

Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD) I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD) The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)

11/04/25 - Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - Rick and Morty - Season 8 (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - SpongeBob SquarePants - The Complete Fifteenth Season (DVD)
11/11/25 - Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/02/25 - Tom and Jerry - The Golden Era Anthology (1940-1958) (Blu-ray) (DVD)
12/16/25 - Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/16/25 - Wally Gator - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
01/20/26 - The Woody Woodpecker and Friends Golden Age Collection (Blu-ray)
01/27/26 - The New Fred and Barney Show - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
02/11/26 - Tom and Jerry - The Complete CinemaScope Collection (Blu-ray)
03/24/26 - Looney Tunes Collector's Vault - Volume 2 (Blu-ray)
04/11/26 - Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD)
04/21/26 - Famous Studios Champion Collection (Blu-ray) (DVD)
05/19/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
05/19/26 - Looney Tunes Cartoons - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) (DVD)
07/14/26 - The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)
07/28/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (Blu-ray)

More Recent and Upcoming TV DVD and Blu-ray Releases / TV Shows on DVD, Blu-ray and Prime Video / DVD Reviews Archive


Search Sitcoms Online:



Donate

Please make a donation if you can help with Sitcoms Online's web hosting costs. Thanks for your support!

We receive a small commission on all DVDs, Blu-rays, CDs, Books, and any other items ordered through our Amazon.com links as an associate. Thanks for using our links for your online shopping!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-19-2006, 06:27 PM   #1
Mr. Television
22 Years at Sitcoms Online
Forum Icon
 
Mr. Television's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 06, 2003
Location: Somewhere you're Not
Posts: 62,125
Default NBC Is Going To The Dogs

NBC cuts: the end of US network TV?

By Jason Deans / Television 06:31pm

In today's announcement of 700 job cuts at NBC Universal comes a shattering admission from TV division chief exec Jeff Zucker: NBC will stop scheduling scripted comedy and drama 8pm-9pm, in favour of cheaper reality and gameshows.

So NBC thinks it is no longer commercially viable to run comedy and drama in its early primetime schedule - and this from the broadcaster that gave the world a string of 80s and 90s hits including The Cosby Show, Cheers, LA Law, Hill Street Blues, ER, The West Wing, Friends, Frasier and Seinfeld.

NBC is also cutting its news operations as part of plans to save $750m a year - and re-invest some of the money into digital media.

Is this the beginning of the end for the advertiser funded, US network TV business model?

Zucker told the Wall Street Journal advertising interest isn't high enough to justify spending on scripted shows in the first hour of primetime from 8pm so the network may play gameshow Deal or No Deal instead of a struggling drama such as Friday Night Lights.

Deal or No Deal costs about $1.1 million an episode, compared with the $2.6 million it takes to make Friday Night Lights, the Journal reported.

Now, NBC will still run drama and comedy in the remaining two hours of primetime each night, 9pm-11pm.

And these drastic measures have been forced on NBC after a disastrous couple of years, in which it has slipped from being the top rating US network to third place in the current season, behind CBS and ABC. NBC's ratings decline has cost the company $800 million in advertising income, according to Bloomberg.

To a certain extent NBC is a victim of its failure to find hit shows to replace the Seinfeld-Friends-Frasier generation that allowed it to dominate the US TV market in the 90s.

But even though CBS, with the CSIs, and ABC - with Lost, Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy - are currently more commercially successful, US analysts believe the new ecomics of digital media mean they are likely to follow NBC's lead in cutting spending on news and scripted entertainment programming.

So is this a watershed moment - the final unravelling of the US network TV business model after 50 years or more?

The networks invested huge sums in comedy and drama each year, with the flops axed after a few episodes more than compensated for by the hits, which brought money pouring in from advertising, domestic syndication, international sales, and more recently video and DVD revenue.

At the apex of all this, NBC's Must See TV Thursday night comedy and drama line-up was a cultural fixture of 90s US broadcasting, kicking off for much of decade with Friends at 8pm and featuring shows such as Seinfeld, Frasier, Mad About You and ER.

Network audiences have been shrinking for 20 years or so, as the growth of cable TV channels such as HBO, Showtime and Discovery ate into their ratings. But even with annual audience shares for each of the main channels falling to around 10% in the last few years, network TV remained a profitable business.

Now, with the growth of broadband and digital rivals such as Google, Yahoo! and YouTube, it seems a tipping point has been reached.

This will have repercussions in the UK - for one thing, if the supply of US drama and comedy begins to dry up.

And for ITV. If NBC, for years the most successful player globally in the ad-funded network TV business, cannot make the sums add up anymore, how long before ITV's owners follow its lead and cut back on news and entertainment programming investment
__________________
Sonny
Mr. Television is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 02:55 PM   #2
Jack1000
Member
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 05, 2001
Posts: 2,055
Default

Overall,

I think broadcast TV is dying because there are too many other options avaliable through digital cable and satalite dish You get so much more varity with those choices The only plus for the broadcast networks might be for people who can't afford cable or dish who are forced to rely on broadcast TV. But I think for such people, they may watch such a limited amount of TV as it is that they either don't know when a big one-time hit comes out or don't care.

For people with cable and dish options, the question is become more relivant as to why should they care about the broadcast networks anymore? Premium channels allow the viewer to see their movies uncut and commercial free, something that broadcast networks couldn't do because of advertising revenue loss. Video on Demand and DVD buying choices, along with optional cable and dish services like DVR's show that people who have the added channels are going to other avenues for their entertainment.

The MUST SEE TV for the networks are vested on the interests of big deal prime time events: such as sports playoffs and championships, or prime time specials with provocative adventurus interests with big money payouts or people doing "risky" or "stupid" things. But the straight laced series that so many grew up with in the 70's-90's doesn't seem to fit in with today's youthful impatient generation whom TV marketing executives like to target.

This is one of several reasons why commercial TV executives continue to lose their audiences to digital cable and dish TV.

Jack
Jack1000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 03:44 PM   #3
TJL
Suburbanite Extrordinaire
Forum Star
 
TJL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 29, 2001
Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization
Posts: 16,591
Default

It saddens me to think that NBC has no faith in thier programming that they would decide not to make sitcoms and dramas. Sure, they can be expensive, but IMO reality shows are a horrible alternative and game shows are a fad that has had a resurgence lately thanks to "Deal Or No Deal," but how long will that popularity last?

It looks like NBC doesn't want to spend money to make money. So I guess I can say good bye to "Studio 60," which costs about 3 million an episode.
__________________
"I think I'll stroll up to the front to see how the shooting's going..."
- Capt. Benjamin Franklin "Hawkeye" Pierce

Read my blogs!
http://centralparkamisguide.com/
http://dvdcriticscorner.com
Visit me on Facebook!http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=641138880
Hey, I do the tweet thing too!
http://twitter.com/TomLevier
My shop of handmade items!
http://www.etsy.com/shop/ColdGarageCreations
TJL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 04:24 PM   #4
shaeluv12
Member
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 07, 2006
Location: yonkers ny
Posts: 102
Default

Thank god that they put deal or no deal on cause if they didn't then they would still be like in 5th place in the raitings.
shaeluv12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 04:32 PM   #5
TJL
Suburbanite Extrordinaire
Forum Star
 
TJL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 29, 2001
Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization
Posts: 16,591
Default

If NBC wants two save a few bucks, they should close down MSNBC.

They tried, it's not working.
TJL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 06:35 PM   #6
Mr. Television
22 Years at Sitcoms Online
Forum Icon
 
Mr. Television's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 06, 2003
Location: Somewhere you're Not
Posts: 62,125
Default

I read another article though and they were talking about how 2 of the bigger hits this season were 8 O'Clock shows....Ugly Betty on ABC and Jericho on CBS. NBC just doesn't know how to launch script shows anymore and they'd rather just take the easy way out.
Mr. Television is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 06:36 PM   #7
snl 70s show fan
Member
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 14, 2005
Location: in the forman basment
Posts: 2,454
Default

i say as much as i hate this idea of no comedy or drama at 8 lets let mr i hate good programing zucker try out this mornic idea because i really think if it fails and im positave that it will the big boss eill finally get it though his pea brain that zucker is a moron and we will finally get someboddy in there who knows what they are doing. i will feel bad for kevin reilly but he is a good programmer and will land at some other network where he will not be second guessed about every decison he tried very hard but its hard to get any work done when you have morons for bosses.
snl 70s show fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 07:47 PM   #8
TJL
Suburbanite Extrordinaire
Forum Star
 
TJL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 29, 2001
Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization
Posts: 16,591
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walking Tall
NBC just doesn't know how to launch script shows anymore and they'd rather just take the easy way out.
Exactly.
TJL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2006, 11:07 PM   #9
dawsongirl
Member
Forum Icon
 
Join Date: Jan 04, 2001
Posts: 53,128
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walking Tall
I read another article though and they were talking about how 2 of the bigger hits this season were 8 O'Clock shows....Ugly Betty on ABC and Jericho on CBS. NBC just doesn't know how to launch script shows anymore and they'd rather just take the easy way out.
Yeah...whoever greenlights their scripted programming doesn't know quality and what the public likes to see. Fire them first, then see what happens.
dawsongirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 12:40 AM   #10
Janice
Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin'
Forum Legend
 
Janice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 03, 2001
Location: Beantown
Posts: 36,389
Default

Jay Leno jokes about NBC in his monolog all the time. He said the other night that NBC is laying off 700 employees, which is more than the amount of their viewers, lol.
Janice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 03:10 PM   #11
Jonathan
*******
Senior Member
 
Jonathan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 28, 2004
Posts: 2,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Janice
Jay Leno jokes about NBC in his monolog all the time. He said the other night that NBC is laying off 700 employees, which is more than the amount of their viewers, lol.
I think I remember that.
Jonathan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 04:17 PM   #12
tvfan0101
Member
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 29, 2003
Posts: 961
Default

From the IMDb:

Quote:
Displaying a striking disagreement among NBC Universal's top executives, Kevin Reilly, the company's entertainment president, took issue Thursday with Jeff Zucker, the company's TV chief, over Zucker's remarks on Wednesday that the network plans to eliminate scripted shows during the 8:00 p.m. hour, replacing them with game and reality series. As reported by today's (Friday) Daily Variety, Reilly told a Beverly Hills luncheon Thursday, "You can't be exclusive with reality at 8:00. You have to be in the scripted business. It's not an absolute." Appearing to publicly overrule Zucker, Reilly said that the network plans to continue airing My Name is Earl and The Office during the 8:00 p.m. hour on Thursdays. Other analysts questioned the strategy further, suggesting that dumping low-cost shows into the 8:00 hour would affect ratings for the 9:00 hour. Only last May Zucker had said that he planned to concentrate on strengthening the 8:00 hour, calling it "the key driver" of the rest of the schedule. Meanwhile, today's New York Post, citing sources close to NBC, reported that "the relationship between [Zucker and NBC Universal Chairman Bob Wright] recently has been steeped in tension." The Post noted that Zucker recently passed on Ugly Betty, which has become a big hit on ABC -- at 8:00 p.m.
I think we will have to wait and see what NBC actually does because, obviously, the company has no idea.
tvfan0101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 05:13 PM   #13
Mr. Television
22 Years at Sitcoms Online
Forum Icon
 
Mr. Television's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 06, 2003
Location: Somewhere you're Not
Posts: 62,125
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tvobscurities
From the IMDb:



I think we will have to wait and see what NBC actually does because, obviously, the company has no idea.
Zucker is an idiot. He has completely destroyed NBC.
Mr. Television is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 05:34 PM   #14
snl 70s show fan
Member
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 14, 2005
Location: in the forman basment
Posts: 2,454
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walking Tall
Zucker is an idiot. He has completely destroyed NBC.
i agree .heres an idea why dont all the so members who agree with walking tall and myself pool our money hire a small airplane and put walking tall's statement in skywriting over 30 rock maybe then bob wright will get the message?.
snl 70s show fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2006, 05:56 PM   #15
Mr. Television
22 Years at Sitcoms Online
Forum Icon
 
Mr. Television's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 06, 2003
Location: Somewhere you're Not
Posts: 62,125
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snl 70s show fan
i agree .heres an idea why dont all the so members who agree with walking tall and myself pool our money hire a small airplane and put walking tall's statement in skywriting over 30 rock maybe then bob wright will get the message?.
Mr. Television is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:13 AM.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.