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janeydoll · 10-12-2006, 03:24 PM

I am making a set and at the end of the show they squish the credits & play an ad but then return to the credits.

I was wondering what your opinions are about either taking that chunk of ad out of the episode so it just plays the 2 parts that are the credits or to leave it so it is complete intact?

If I was to say I had a set would I have to tell the person that I was trading with that I cut the ads out or would noone ever care if a 15 second chunk was taken out of the credits?

thanks for the feedback

lazygrae · 10-12-2006, 03:57 PM

Keep all credits. If not, notify your trading partners.

y2k3Joker · 10-12-2006, 04:20 PM

Keep it in.

More people will complain if they are not there.

gilligan fanatic · 10-12-2006, 04:35 PM

I don't think I would complain if they weren't there, but squashed credits are better than no credits

savageamusement · 10-12-2006, 05:09 PM

I took out the credits for nip tuck, because FX is notorious for squishing things
SO is TNT

I received more complaints than praise.

i have learned, to leave credits in. Commericals, not so much most peopel wont' care, but credits are a larger deal- star information, guest star, and so on.

y2k3Joker · 10-12-2006, 05:21 PM

Credits are important because they help identify an episode.

Sometimes, people mislabel titles and if there is no guide available with a detailed synopsis of each episode, the credits often help identify it.

janeydoll · 10-12-2006, 05:28 PM

thanks for all the advise.

I just wanted to make sure you all understood that the only part that was squished was about 10 seconds & it goes right back to the song, so i would just take out the 10 seconds NOT THE ENTIRE CREDITS.

But I understand what you are saying, better to leave them as is, so everyone can be happy.

anglemark10 · 10-13-2006, 12:57 AM

I would NEVER remove any part of the closing credits. I just started getting into a set of Dennis the Menace I received quite awhile ago and was very angry to discover that whomever made the set removed the voiceovers from the closing credits (and, in turn, the freakin' cast list) for some of the episodes (they also spliced in credits from completely different episodes). To anyone who makes DVD sets: don't mess with the credits!

lordsmurf · 10-13-2006, 10:38 AM

If you really want to get all technical, you can mute the end credits. I did that on a set once, because the end credit voiceovers were like 10x the volume of the episodes. It was terrible.

But it's a lot of work.

Lamont · 10-13-2006, 10:58 AM

this debate has come up before and i think its just as silly as it was then

credits--- does anyone really watch them?

i mean YES they can help identify an episode, but so can the plot

i PREFER the credits to be there, and if i make the set, ill leave them in

BUT recently i have seen people get into fights or big feuds because some credits were cut off or the wrong credits or so forth and i think
that people taking it that far are just being overly anal

anglemark10 · 10-14-2006, 10:27 AM

I just feel that the credits are part of the episode. The show is, simply, incomplete without them.

robyrob · 10-14-2006, 10:32 AM

I say leave 'em in if at all possible - even if they are all squished to the side or bottom, with huge garish bugs over them and blaring voice-overs and cut-off before they finish, its better than nothing

april4972 · 10-14-2006, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont

this debate has come up before and i think its just as silly as it was then

credits--- does anyone really watch them?

i mean YES they can help identify an episode, but so can the plot

i PREFER the credits to be there, and if i make the set, ill leave them in

BUT recently i have seen people get into fights or big feuds because some credits were cut off or the wrong credits or so forth and i think
that people taking it that far are just being overly anal

And that was me and I don't appreciate you calling me overly anal, I had
EVERY right to be unhappy with them. I actually like to WATCH what I collect, not just accumulate DVDs...

Lamont · 10-14-2006, 09:50 PM

stephanie to be honest i was NOT refering to you or your situation one bit with ninja striker--- i am sorry if u assumed it was you, since u brought it up--- the exact situation i WAS refering to was this---- i traded a guy the set of BOSTON PUBLIC that i have, the only set out there, some of the credits are cut off, the set is 8.5-9 qulaity otherwise, he totally jumped my case, and went off on me, and i had no idea they were even cut off, he went on and on and on, on another site and called me every filthy name imaginable--- sorry, but it wasnt about u

omenboy · 10-15-2006, 12:11 AM

Lamont,

I don't think it has anything to do with whether someone watches the end credits or not - the opening credits for most series are identical (for at least each season if not the whole run of a series in some cases) but if the OPENING credits were missing from an episode, most collectors would be very upset. Why? I mean, they are all the same, and who watches the opening credits anyway?? Of course people do - and many people enjoy watching the ending ones as well (myself among them). Everyone is different and just because you think wanting end credits included is "silly" doesn't mean that wanting them included isn't justified. There are some people who want original commercials included. Is that "silly" too? People have the right to want something the way they decide to collect it.

I don't think anyone here should get into a Dynasty catfight about it, but it is the principal of wanting the entire content of something you have been desperately searching for and collecting, not receiving some disappointing partial version. And if any part of a show is missing, there should be full disclosure so the person receiving it can decide beforehand if he or she is willing to accept the series in partial condition.

In some cases when a show is extrememly rare, people would be thrilled to have the series in any condition, partial or otherwise, but when the entire content of an episode is available it should be included and the person watching it has the option of hitting the "stop button" if they don't want to look at the end credits, the opening credits or any portion in between.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont

this debate has come up before and i think its just as silly as it was then

credits--- does anyone really watch them?

i mean YES they can help identify an episode, but so can the plot

i PREFER the credits to be there, and if i make the set, ill leave them in

BUT recently i have seen people get into fights or big feuds because some credits were cut off or the wrong credits or so forth and i think
that people taking it that far are just being overly anal

10-12-2006, 03:24 PM	#1
janeydoll Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 166	I need opinions on ending credits I am making a set and at the end of the show they squish the credits & play an ad but then return to the credits. I was wondering what your opinions are about either taking that chunk of ad out of the episode so it just plays the 2 parts that are the credits or to leave it so it is complete intact? If I was to say I had a set would I have to tell the person that I was trading with that I cut the ads out or would noone ever care if a 15 second chunk was taken out of the credits? thanks for the feedback

10-12-2006, 03:57 PM	#2
lazygrae Archivist Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 30, 2003 Location: Canada, watching the grooviest gang of fuzz who ever wore a badge. Posts: 460	Keep all credits. If not, notify your trading partners.
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10-12-2006, 04:35 PM	#4
gilligan fanatic Born to Be Bad Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 06, 2001 Location: down by the Lagoon Posts: 9,954	I don't think I would complain if they weren't there, but squashed credits are better than no credits
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10-12-2006, 05:09 PM	#5
savageamusement Cutest Couch Potato Senior Member Join Date: Oct 21, 2003 Posts: 2,103	well I took out the credits for nip tuck, because FX is notorious for squishing things SO is TNT I received more complaints than praise. i have learned, to leave credits in. Commericals, not so much most peopel wont' care, but credits are a larger deal- star information, guest star, and so on.

10-13-2006, 10:58 AM	#10
Lamont Lamont says Smile! Forum Veteran Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Nowhere Posts: 5,217	this debate has come up before and i think its just as silly as it was then credits--- does anyone really watch them? i mean YES they can help identify an episode, but so can the plot i PREFER the credits to be there, and if i make the set, ill leave them in BUT recently i have seen people get into fights or big feuds because some credits were cut off or the wrong credits or so forth and i think that people taking it that far are just being overly anal
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10-12-2006, 04:20 PM	#3
y2k3Joker Why So Serious? Senior Member Join Date: Aug 28, 2003 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 1,256	Keep it in. More people will complain if they are not there.

10-12-2006, 05:21 PM	#6
y2k3Joker Why So Serious? Senior Member Join Date: Aug 28, 2003 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 1,256	Credits are important because they help identify an episode. Sometimes, people mislabel titles and if there is no guide available with a detailed synopsis of each episode, the credits often help identify it.

10-12-2006, 05:28 PM	#7
janeydoll Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 166	thanks for all the advise. I just wanted to make sure you all understood that the only part that was squished was about 10 seconds & it goes right back to the song, so i would just take out the 10 seconds NOT THE ENTIRE CREDITS. But I understand what you are saying, better to leave them as is, so everyone can be happy.

10-13-2006, 12:57 AM	#8
anglemark10 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 06, 2004 Location: United States Posts: 787	I would NEVER remove any part of the closing credits. I just started getting into a set of Dennis the Menace I received quite awhile ago and was very angry to discover that whomever made the set removed the voiceovers from the closing credits (and, in turn, the freakin' cast list) for some of the episodes (they also spliced in credits from completely different episodes). To anyone who makes DVD sets: don't mess with the credits!

10-13-2006, 10:38 AM	#9
lordsmurf Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 155	If you really want to get all technical, you can mute the end credits. I did that on a set once, because the end credit voiceovers were like 10x the volume of the episodes. It was terrible. But it's a lot of work.

10-14-2006, 10:27 AM	#11
anglemark10 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 06, 2004 Location: United States Posts: 787	I just feel that the credits are part of the episode. The show is, simply, incomplete without them.

10-14-2006, 10:32 AM	#12
robyrob certified wackball#3 Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Aug 03, 2003 Location: hiding under the third booth at Arnold's Posts: 58,200	I say leave 'em in if at all possible - even if they are all squished to the side or bottom, with huge garish bugs over them and blaring voice-overs and cut-off before they finish, its better than nothing
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10-14-2006, 09:50 PM	#14
Lamont Lamont says Smile! Forum Veteran Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Deep in the Heart of Nowhere Posts: 5,217	stephanie to be honest i was NOT refering to you or your situation one bit with ninja striker--- i am sorry if u assumed it was you, since u brought it up--- the exact situation i WAS refering to was this---- i traded a guy the set of BOSTON PUBLIC that i have, the only set out there, some of the credits are cut off, the set is 8.5-9 qulaity otherwise, he totally jumped my case, and went off on me, and i had no idea they were even cut off, he went on and on and on, on another site and called me every filthy name imaginable--- sorry, but it wasnt about u