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Old School TV · 10-11-2006, 06:17 PM

1)BigFoot in Pacific Northwest- this segment interviews a land surveyor who claims was marking territory and bumps into a bigfoot. He claims his life felt endangered but dosen't fire even one round from his weapon. Gee if you have a revolver and a huge creature charges at you wouldn't you fire? In addition, he had already fired a couple shots in the air.

2)Ice Man- The guy sells his story about the missing link to a tabloid Sci-fi paper and then puts it into a carnival for more profit. He makes money then when authorities are going to investigate if he is transporting an actual human cadaver without proper licensce he then takes the exhibit and dissapears.

3)Unabomber/Zodiac- Now the link between Unabomber and Zodiac. The composite sketches claim they look like. Well I happen to have about the same height, skin color, and weight as the Unabomber, and with sunglasses on, me and plenty of others can fit the vague composite sketch. They both were in SF about the same time, so were other people who fit the description. The Unabomber wasen't interested in stupid astrology games. IN fact, he was anti-technology and did everything from distance. He had numerous letters published by the NY Times and the Zodiac never mentioned anything about technology. Furthermore, not even one shred of evidence linked him to Zodiac when they inspected his Cabin. The segment is more entertaining then factual.

LooksLikeCRicci · 10-12-2006, 12:55 AM

4) Rainboy-- Although there were witnesses to the phenomenon, I find it hard to believe that someone was possessed by the devil and that, in turn, they could make it rain on command.

UMfan77 · 10-12-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

4) Rainboy-- Although there were witnesses to the phenomenon, I find it hard to believe that someone was possessed by the devil and that, in turn, they could make it rain on command.

If he was indeed "Rainboy". Why didn't he do a demonstration & make it rain while UM was interviewing him.

greatgarrett2 · 10-14-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by screenlegal6

3)Unabomber/Zodiac- Now the link between Unabomber and Zodiac. The composite sketches claim they look like. Well I happen to have about the same height, skin color, and weight as the Unabomber, and with sunglasses on, me and plenty of others can fit the vague composite sketch. They both were in SF about the same time, so were other people who fit the description. The Unabomber wasen't interested in stupid astrology games. IN fact, he was anti-technology and did everything from distance. He had numerous letters published by the NY Times and the Zodiac never mentioned anything about technology. Furthermore, not even one shred of evidence linked him to Zodiac when they inspected his Cabin. The segment is more entertaining then factual.

That's what got me as well about the Unabomber-Zodiac link. Why wouldn't they find any evidence linking him (Kaczynski) to Zodiac, if the Unabomber did indeed collect all his bomb-making paraphenelia and crime memorabilia.

Also, why didn't Unabomber just confess to the Zodiac crimes, if he was indeed the Zodiac? He was being sent to prison anyway and had nothing to loose by confessing.

Why didn't he confess?

Zodiac and Unabomber had different motives, IMO. You're right in saying the Zodiac never even mentioned technology in his letters. Sure, he drew a bomb, but Zodiac didn't target representatives of a so-called 'Technological Society'. No, he targeted mostly youth in lover's lanes. It would be highly unusual to change your MO from shooting to suddenly a bomb-making 'anti-technology' warrior.

An entertaining segment, and actually one of my favorites because it tells the Zodiac Story as well, but I don't believe they are the same.

Cheers

greatgarrett2 · 10-14-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UMfan77

If he was indeed "Rainboy". Why didn't he do a demonstration & make it rain while UM was interviewing him.

Apparently it had 'stopped' by the time UM interviewed him.....he said himself, it was over now, if I remember correctly.....

But I guess, on the other hand, he could've been asked to make it rain if he could indeed control it........

Just my thoughts.

HMMMMM.....

greatgarrett2 · 10-14-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by screenlegal6

1)BigFoot in Pacific Northwest- this segment interviews a land surveyor who claims was marking territory and bumps into a bigfoot. He claims his life felt endangered but dosen't fire even one round from his weapon. Gee if you have a revolver and a huge creature charges at you wouldn't you fire? In addition, he had already fired a couple shots in the air.

I wonder why he chose to run, when in fact he had a gun?

The firing of a couple shots would just scare the creature away, IMO.

Maybe he was just plain scared and his spur of the moment adrenaline kicked in.....

But, imagine if he would've shot it? Maybe, we could've had the missing link?

That maybe could've done something for science.....

Oh, well.

wiseguy182 · 10-15-2006, 06:20 AM

I think the reason that he didn't fire his gun was that he didn't know how strong the bigfoot is, if he did see it and it does exist, which I think it does. It's entirely possible that the bigfoot wouldn't have been fazed by the gunshots and could have started coming right at him, they are reportedly very fast. I have heard stories about how it's virtually impossible to escape a bear, and I heard a story about a bear not being fazed by gunshots. I think if I found myself in that situation, I would have treated the bigfoot like a skunk, and would have just walked away slowly.

UMLongtimefan · 10-19-2006, 08:08 PM

Although its one of my favorite segements.. chupucabras..is pretty difficult to swallow.

All do respect to the people involved, but the people who went into the woods in Kentucky?, stared at the sky and thought they saw Mary and other heavenly host is a pretty hard one to believe, they may have been touched by the Holy Spirit but I doubt they saw it by staring into the sun.

Re: Bigfoot and the surveyor.. I forget what kind of pistol the surveyor had, maybe he had smaller gun a .22 or such good for shooting varmits useless for something as powerful as bear or bigfoot.. (although a 22 can certainly kill a man), maybe he didn't trust his aim...not easy to shoot something charging you even if you got a cannon like a .50 cal or 12 gauge, make it something manlike and you bring in a whole nother can of worms. The surveyor may also be thinking that Bigfoot is in endangered species, shooting or harming it could bring charges EVEN if his life was in danger.

The first lesson of firearms self-defense classes is if you can avoid the gunfight then you have an obligation to do so.

hovaslash · 10-20-2006, 09:47 AM

The woman who made gold foil appear from her armpits was a little farfetched as well...

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 10-20-2006, 06:33 PM

I find most of the UFO cases hard to believe simply because I don't believe in them. Aliens travel light years to get here... and then crash into our planet?! :alien1 or that little Alien ship that few into the bedroom of that woman and removed her cancer

Although some cases are half convincing.

What I really find hard to believe in a different context is Larry Gibson was only given 3 years for killing his son

kadrmas15 · 10-21-2006, 03:02 PM

Well I believe some of these but not others. With Rainboy I dont know what to believe. The only reason I think there was even the slightest bit of truth in his story was that other people including police officers said it was true. The only one that said it wasnt true was the chief of police. So I dont know if the chief is lying or if everyone that says that this guy made it rain was lying. Obviously someone is. Truly bizarre story. In terms of bigfoot I have talked to people in Washington state who think this thing is real. I guess until it is proven it doesnt exist it has to be considered that it does exist. The fact that the guy didnt fire his gun at it is a moot point. I mean this bigfoot is huge do you think a little revolver is going to faze it? You could probably empty a revolver into it and it would still be running around. Most people's first instinct at seeing a big foot would not be emptying their gun into it if they had one on them but rather turning around and running away regardless if they had a gun or not.

Arnold_OldSchool · 10-22-2006, 10:34 AM

The Bigfoot story in this thread is believed to be false now as the man who claimed to see it has changed his story numerous times apparently.

kadrmas15 · 10-22-2006, 04:45 PM

Well Screenlegal you didnt have to be a smart aleck about it. I said it was big because since the creature is called big foot I think it is safe to assume it is a big creature. Maybe I am wrong. That is fine you dont think it exists, whatever. I didnt necessarily say it did exist but I am also not necessarily sure it doesnt exist. I dont know what to think about it. I am just keeping an open mind on the subject is all sorry you didnt agree with my opinions but that is exactly what I was stating was my opinions, I was not stating them as fact. You are free to come to any conclusion you want, you just dont have to make me feel stupid because I disagree with you.

treeman · 04-11-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgarrett2

Apparently it had 'stopped' by the time UM interviewed him.....he said himself, it was over now, if I remember correctly.....

But I guess, on the other hand, he could've been asked to make it rain if he could indeed control it........

Just my thoughts.

HMMMMM.....

In times of global warming somebody who could make it rain would be quite handy!

-Ben

justins5256 · 02-06-2009, 12:58 PM

Sorry to bump an old thread. I'm just tooling around looking at old stuff.

Some "unbelievable" stories that have not been mentioned:

- the story about the kid who threw a bottle into a river in the Midwest (can't remember exactly where) and it ended up (allegedly) on a beach in California.

- Dorothy Izatt and her UFO photos and films. I think this has got to be a hoax. It always struck me as odd that she never used a video camera. Even in the 1990 segment she was still using movie cameras and still cameras. If she can control this phenomenon why not capture it on video? It certainly would be more difficult to falsify.

- African fertility statues.

- the Tallmans and the possessed bunk bed definitely pushes the envelope.

10-11-2006, 06:17 PM	#1
Old School TV Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 31, 2006 Posts: 104	UM Segments that are hard to believe 1)BigFoot in Pacific Northwest- this segment interviews a land surveyor who claims was marking territory and bumps into a bigfoot. He claims his life felt endangered but dosen't fire even one round from his weapon. Gee if you have a revolver and a huge creature charges at you wouldn't you fire? In addition, he had already fired a couple shots in the air. 2)Ice Man- The guy sells his story about the missing link to a tabloid Sci-fi paper and then puts it into a carnival for more profit. He makes money then when authorities are going to investigate if he is transporting an actual human cadaver without proper licensce he then takes the exhibit and dissapears. 3)Unabomber/Zodiac- Now the link between Unabomber and Zodiac. The composite sketches claim they look like. Well I happen to have about the same height, skin color, and weight as the Unabomber, and with sunglasses on, me and plenty of others can fit the vague composite sketch. They both were in SF about the same time, so were other people who fit the description. The Unabomber wasen't interested in stupid astrology games. IN fact, he was anti-technology and did everything from distance. He had numerous letters published by the NY Times and the Zodiac never mentioned anything about technology. Furthermore, not even one shred of evidence linked him to Zodiac when they inspected his Cabin. The segment is more entertaining then factual.

10-12-2006, 12:55 AM	#2
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	4) Rainboy-- Although there were witnesses to the phenomenon, I find it hard to believe that someone was possessed by the devil and that, in turn, they could make it rain on command.

10-15-2006, 06:20 AM	#7
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	I think the reason that he didn't fire his gun was that he didn't know how strong the bigfoot is, if he did see it and it does exist, which I think it does. It's entirely possible that the bigfoot wouldn't have been fazed by the gunshots and could have started coming right at him, they are reportedly very fast. I have heard stories about how it's virtually impossible to escape a bear, and I heard a story about a bear not being fazed by gunshots. I think if I found myself in that situation, I would have treated the bigfoot like a skunk, and would have just walked away slowly.

10-19-2006, 08:08 PM	#8
UMLongtimefan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 08, 2006 Location: ??? Posts: 161	Although its one of my favorite segements.. chupucabras..is pretty difficult to swallow. All do respect to the people involved, but the people who went into the woods in Kentucky?, stared at the sky and thought they saw Mary and other heavenly host is a pretty hard one to believe, they may have been touched by the Holy Spirit but I doubt they saw it by staring into the sun. Re: Bigfoot and the surveyor.. I forget what kind of pistol the surveyor had, maybe he had smaller gun a .22 or such good for shooting varmits useless for something as powerful as bear or bigfoot.. (although a 22 can certainly kill a man), maybe he didn't trust his aim...not easy to shoot something charging you even if you got a cannon like a .50 cal or 12 gauge, make it something manlike and you bring in a whole nother can of worms. The surveyor may also be thinking that Bigfoot is in endangered species, shooting or harming it could bring charges EVEN if his life was in danger. The first lesson of firearms self-defense classes is if you can avoid the gunfight then you have an obligation to do so.

10-20-2006, 09:47 AM	#9
hovaslash Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2006 Location: ma Posts: 87	The woman who made gold foil appear from her armpits was a little farfetched as well...

10-20-2006, 06:33 PM	#10
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	I find most of the UFO cases hard to believe simply because I don't believe in them. Aliens travel light years to get here... and then crash into our planet?! :alien1 or that little Alien ship that few into the bedroom of that woman and removed her cancer Although some cases are half convincing. What I really find hard to believe in a different context is Larry Gibson was only given 3 years for killing his son

10-21-2006, 03:02 PM	#11
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well I believe some of these but not others. With Rainboy I dont know what to believe. The only reason I think there was even the slightest bit of truth in his story was that other people including police officers said it was true. The only one that said it wasnt true was the chief of police. So I dont know if the chief is lying or if everyone that says that this guy made it rain was lying. Obviously someone is. Truly bizarre story. In terms of bigfoot I have talked to people in Washington state who think this thing is real. I guess until it is proven it doesnt exist it has to be considered that it does exist. The fact that the guy didnt fire his gun at it is a moot point. I mean this bigfoot is huge do you think a little revolver is going to faze it? You could probably empty a revolver into it and it would still be running around. Most people's first instinct at seeing a big foot would not be emptying their gun into it if they had one on them but rather turning around and running away regardless if they had a gun or not.

10-22-2006, 10:34 AM	#12
Arnold_OldSchool Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 681	The Bigfoot story in this thread is believed to be false now as the man who claimed to see it has changed his story numerous times apparently.

10-22-2006, 04:45 PM	#13
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well Screenlegal you didnt have to be a smart aleck about it. I said it was big because since the creature is called big foot I think it is safe to assume it is a big creature. Maybe I am wrong. That is fine you dont think it exists, whatever. I didnt necessarily say it did exist but I am also not necessarily sure it doesnt exist. I dont know what to think about it. I am just keeping an open mind on the subject is all sorry you didnt agree with my opinions but that is exactly what I was stating was my opinions, I was not stating them as fact. You are free to come to any conclusion you want, you just dont have to make me feel stupid because I disagree with you.

02-06-2009, 12:58 PM	#15
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Sorry to bump an old thread. I'm just tooling around looking at old stuff. Some "unbelievable" stories that have not been mentioned: - the story about the kid who threw a bottle into a river in the Midwest (can't remember exactly where) and it ended up (allegedly) on a beach in California. - Dorothy Izatt and her UFO photos and films. I think this has got to be a hoax. It always struck me as odd that she never used a video camera. Even in the 1990 segment she was still using movie cameras and still cameras. If she can control this phenomenon why not capture it on video? It certainly would be more difficult to falsify. - African fertility statues. - the Tallmans and the possessed bunk bed definitely pushes the envelope.