Did anyone see Entertainment Tonight last night? An interview w/Suzanne & Joyce...

[Ireneparalegal]

I am not sure what to make of that so-called interview. Whoever saw it, can you explain to me why Joyce walked away? I mean, it seems they just chopped this interview to get to the "exciting" part of it without really explaining or showing what led up to it. Was it Suzanne's name being mentioned? I don't get it. Suzanne expressed her desire to be "friends" with Joyce, stating that some of her most laughable moments on Three's Company were with Joyce. This was a bad segment overall. I mean, they hyped this interview every chance they got and it just didn't make sense.

[sunshinefizzy]

Wait is this a new deal??? I didn't miss the interview did I?

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by sunshinefizzy

Wait is this a new deal??? I didn't miss the interview did I?

That's what I don't get. I mean, it was poorly done, very choppy editing. Joyce was upset, got up and asked that the cameras be turned off. Then it went to Suzanne who was told abt Joyce getting up and leaving for a "moment". Suzanne stated, "yeah, I heard." It went back and forth with the two of them. I don't get it. I know this must be a new interview, because this is the same interview where Suzanne was asked abt how she felt abt Farrah and her cancer. However, Suzanne's comments abt Farrah, were not part of last night's interview. That part of the interview was shown last week when comments from celebs abt Farrah were shown.

[sunshinefizzy]

I don't think that was the whole thing. I just looked at et and the insider and there was nothing in the archives. So maybe they aren't showing it until later??? I don't that just doesn't make sense to me that they would do that Well, if it sucked that bad then I didn't really miss anything. But if there's more I can't wait until Bitchfest '06 (I mean that with respect for both ladies; even though Floozy Suzy seems like she does a good job in that department )

[Ireneparalegal]

Well, my mistake, it was on Insider, and guess what? They showed it again tonight on their weekend edition. Apparently a previous interview the show did with Joyce was mixed with this interview with Suzanne. When Suzanne's name was brought up, Joyce made a face, got up and demanded the cameras stop filming. The interviewer was caught off guard. She had this look on her face. Then, when Suzanne was interviewed for her 60th birthday, Suzanne was told abt the Joyce incident. Excuse me, but why must they bring up to Suzanne what Joyce did? I love Joyce and all. But if you are interviewing someone because of their 60th birthday and talking abt their surviving cancer, why ruin that by telling them basically, "Hey, when we brought up your name to Joyce, she got pissed and left." I know it's all abt ratings, but that is poor entertainment journalism and interview tactics. So not necessary. So the fact that it was a past interview with Joyce, that may be why it's not on the website. I checked the website myself and couldn't find it. But, like I said, the segment was aired again tonight.

[chrisw79]

As much as people here seem to love Joyce and hate Suzanne, the fact is that while Suzanne was definitley wrong for what happened back in 1980 and Joyce had a right to be upset, was anything that she did so bad to still be that upset 26 years later? I mean John was able to make amends and even in interviews from the late 90s said she loved her and wushed her well and publicly spoke in suppport of her during her illness and Don Knotts and Richard Kline made appearances on Step By Step so one would assume they were able to move past it with her as well. Audra Lindley, though she wasn't around anymore during the dispute spoke well of her after being on the show while she was still alive. Also, her costar on Step By Step Patrick Duffy has always spoken well of her and said she was a delight to work with. Really, Suzanne herself was the one she hurt most as it took her ten years to get another acting role in prime time. All right, she made them have to memorize two scripts, and told people not to watch the show, but is that really something to be stewing over 26 years later. I mean Suzanne was able to forgive her abusive alcoholic father for his actions. I mean, could it be that Joyce is resentful that she still had a sucessful career after that with a seven year run on Step By Step and a series of cookbooks and is still in the limelight. I mean she took up spirituality in New Mexico yet evidently it didn't do much good. Now, I ain't saying Joyce wished it on her and I'm sure she felt badly taht it happened, but if Joyce had gotten ill a few years ago and Suzanne had kept quiet most of you would have been all over her. I also know that it was mentioned that Suzanne wanted money for doing the dvd. I'm not disputing what was reported and I'm not saying she was right, but she did speak on other tribute speials lie A&E biography and din't hear anything about her demanding to or getting paid, and the studio essentially exploited his death by moving up the release date for season one to the holidays.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by chrisw79

As much as people here seem to love Joyce and hate Suzanne, the fact is that while Suzanne was definitley wrong for what happened back in 1980 and Joyce had a right to be upset, was anything that she did so bad to still be that upset 26 years later? I mean John was able to make amends and even in interviews from the late 90s said she loved her and wushed her well and publicly spoke in suppport of her during her illness and Don Knotts and Richard Kline made appearances on Step By Step so one would assume they were able to move past it with her as well. Audra Lindley, though she wasn't around anymore during the dispute spoke well of her after being on the show while she was still alive. Also, her costar on Step By Step Patrick Duffy has always spoken well of her and said she was a delight to work with. Really, Suzanne herself was the one she hurt most as it took her ten years to get another acting role in prime time. All right, she made them have to memorize two scripts, and told people not to watch the show, but is that really something to be stewing over 26 years later. I mean Suzanne was able to forgive her abusive alcoholic father for his actions. I mean, could it be that Joyce is resentful that she still had a sucessful career after that with a seven year run on Step By Step and a series of cookbooks and is still in the limelight. I mean she took up spirituality in New Mexico yet evidently it didn't do much good. Now, I ain't saying Joyce wished it on her and I'm sure she felt badly taht it happened, but if Joyce had gotten ill a few years ago and Suzanne had kept quiet most of you would have been all over her. I also know that it was mentioned that Suzanne wanted money for doing the dvd. I'm not disputing what was reported and I'm not saying she was right, but she did speak on other tribute speials lie A&E biography and din't hear anything about her demanding to or getting paid, and the studio essentially exploited his death by moving up the release date for season one to the holidays.

This thread isn't abt some hard feelings that Joyce has towards Suzanne, at least that isn't my intention, by having made this thread. What I don't get, is why the interviewer felt the need to sink so low as to mention to Suzanne that Joyce got up and asked the cameras to stop filming at the mere mention of Suzanne's name? I mean, that is pathetic and low life journalism ethics. I realize it's a gossip show, why do I expect them to be above that? I guess I answered my own question.

[Pitooey]

I saw that piece.

I think it was for sensationalized TV again.......

I just wish Joyce would be the better lady and forgive Suzanne. We all make mistakes.

I love Joyce and always will and I sided with Joyce for many years because of Suzanne's stupidity back then but now I would like to tell Joyce that life is too short. She should hold her head up high and know that her fans love her and want the best for her. Oh and believe me it affects your health letting this stupid thing simmer. Don't let Suzanne get the better of you Joyce.........

Your fans are rooting for you.

Oh........... Joyce if you read this..... They should not air you storming off again. It's not fair to you. Try to publicy forgive Suzanne. That way a huge weight will be lifted from your shoulders. We (the fans) you.

[Ireneparalegal]

Originally Posted by Pitooey

I saw that piece.

I think it was for sensationalized TV again.......

I just wish Joyce would be the better lady and forgive Suzanne. We all make mistakes.

I love Joyce and always will and I sided with Joyce for many years because of Suzanne's stupidity back then but now I would like to tell Joyce that life is too short. She should hold her head up high and know that her fans love her and want the best for her. Oh and believe me it affects your health letting this stupid think simmer. Don't let Suzanne get the better of you Joyce.........

Your fans are rooting for you.

Oh........... Joyce if you read this..... They should not air you storming off again. It's not fair to you. Try to publicy forgive Suzanne. That way a huge weight will be lifted from your shoulders. We (the fans) you.

I agree.

[Edster2973]

The thing is, and I'm speculating here, the rift between Suzanne and Joyce isn't an isolated thing that happened 26 years ago. I think it's to do with the lying that Suzanne has done (and continues to do) that has fueled the rift.

Also, a bunch of us on this board felt badly that Suzanne wasn't appearing on the DVD sets of Three's Company. Posts came out defending her because it *appeared* that someone wasn't allowing her to appear. Chris Mann himself posted that Suzanne was asked repeatedly and she would only do it provided she was paid mucho bucks for it. Since Joyce was participating behind the scenes for the extras, I'd be willing to bet she was made aware of this and it probably didn't help matters. To do that to a dear friend of hers is close to unforgivable I think. Call me crazy, but I think Joyce and the others were put off by this. Ironically, Joyce is too much of a lady to go public about it.

Also to note, whenever Suzanne has appeared to pay "respects" to her *friend* John Ritter, she always has something new to promote, be it a new line of products, a movie, or, in this case, a book. Gilbert Godfried made a point about this in an interview and called it tasteless. He said that she was really there to promote her new products under the pretense of honoring John Ritter. I thought at the time that it was a bit harsh, but after learning about the DVD situation and then seeing those interviews for myself, I'm inclined to agree.

I am not trying to put her down or demonize her in any way, but she clearly sets herself apart as a business first and as a friend second. The thing is, had she herself died from cancer, no way would John or Joyce have done that. They would've honored her memory for free.

In fact, I remember on Entertainment Tonight that both ladies were interviewed separately and were asked about a possible reconciliation between the two. Both answered in the affirmative and Joyce said that "We seem to be headed in that direction and I think we both feel good about that."

She said those words, it was televised, I saw it for myself. BUT, and here's the thing, it was done before John died. So I think Joyce had every intention of being open to reconciling with Suzanne. But Suzanne's actions since then have probably caused Joyce to reconsider.

I mean, even in the light of death, it's still all about money to Suzanne. It's all she thinks about. Some of you can choose to defend her right to be that way all you want, but I also think Joyce should be defended as well. She has every right to be repulsed by her former colleague's attempts at trying to cash in on honoring her dear friend's memory. And I think there are others in the know who were never in the public eye who would stand right by her side as well.

I didn't even know John Ritter personally and I myself am disgusted by it. I'm done defending her. Suzanne causes her own exiles as far as I'm concerned.


Ed

[Ireneparalegal]

Well, with Alan Hamill as her husband, his antics and money grubbing ways were bound to be instilled into Suzanne.

[Pitooey]

Originally Posted by Edster2973

The thing is, and I'm speculating here, the rift between Suzanne and Joyce isn't an isolated thing that happened 26 years ago. I think it's to do with the lying that Suzanne has done (and continues to do) that has fueled the rift.

Also, a bunch of us on this board felt badly that Suzanne wasn't appearing on the DVD sets of Three's Company. Posts came out defending her because it *appeared* that someone wasn't allowing her to appear. Chris Mann himself posted that Suzanne was asked repeatedly and she would only do it provided she was paid mucho bucks for it. Since Joyce was participating behind the scenes for the extras, I'd be willing to bet she was made aware of this and it probably didn't help matters. To do that to a dear friend of hers is close to unforgivable I think. Call me crazy, but I think Joyce and the others were put off by this. Ironically, Joyce is too much of a lady to go public about it.

Also to note, whenever Suzanne has appeared to pay "respects" to her *friend* John Ritter, she always has something new to promote, be it a new line of products, a movie, or, in this case, a book. Gilbert Godfried made a point about this in an interview and called it tasteless. He said that she was really there to promote her new products under the pretense of honoring John Ritter. I thought at the time that it was a bit harsh, but after learning about the DVD situation and then seeing those interviews for myself, I'm inclined to agree.

I am not trying to put her down or demonize her in any way, but she clearly sets herself apart as a business first and as a friend second. The thing is, had she herself died from cancer, no way would John or Joyce have done that. They would've honored her memory for free.

In fact, I remember on Entertainment Tonight that both ladies were interviewed separately and were asked about a possible reconciliation between the two. Both answered in the affirmative and Joyce said that "We seem to be headed in that direction and I think we both feel good about that."

She said those words, it was televised, I saw it for myself. BUT, and here's the thing, it was done before John died. So I think Joyce had every intention of being open to reconciling with Suzanne. But Suzanne's actions since then have probably caused Joyce to reconsider.

I mean, even in the light of death, it's still all about money to Suzanne. It's all she thinks about. Some of you can choose to defend her right to be that way all you want, but I also think Joyce should be defended as well. She has every right to be repulsed by her former colleague's attempts at trying to cash in on honoring her dear friend's memory. And I think there are others in the know who were never in the public eye who would stand right by her side as well.

I didn't even know John Ritter personally and I myself am disgusted by it. I'm done defending her. Suzanne causes her own exiles as far as I'm concerned.


Ed

You're right! Suzanne has always been greedy..... I've seen her with her hand out countless times.

The fans see it.........

I just don't want Joyce getting sick over Suzanne's quirkiness.

Life is too short. I would love to see Joyce moving on and making shows and movies. We would love to see her. Somehow I always see her hiding.

[Edster2973]

Originally Posted by Pitooey

You're right! Suzanne has always been greedy..... I've seen her with her hand out countless times.

The fans see it.........

I just don't want Joyce getting sick over Suzanne's quirkiness.

I wouldn't worry about Joyce getting sick over this. She's just being honest about how she feels. I'm sure even she was surprised at the lengths Suzanne would go to make money, seeing a tribute for John as an opportunity to do so, but I highly doubt Joyce is stewing over this. The woman has her life and lives it, but to the public at large, she'll forever be Janet Wood. This is all we know about her since her life is very private and so when the topic of Suzanne inevitably gets revisited, we hear Joyce's true feelings and think that that's all there is to her. Let's try to give Joyce a little more credit than that.

Given how Suzanne has chosen to still conduct herself, it seems Joyce has simply chosen to stay away from her and will be candid as to why if she's asked. It doesn't mean that she's constantly fuming about the situation however. The woman has better things to think about and dwell upon, no?

Originally Posted by Pitooey

Life is too short. I would love to see Joyce moving on and making shows and movies. We would love to see her. Somehow I always see her hiding.

Well, I don't think she's hiding at all. She's just not on television regularly. She still makes appearances and acts in the theatre, which is her first love. Again, she's living her life, doing what she wants to do.

I think she became disenchanted with television a bit seeing as how her producers treated her and the other actors on the show badly, but occasionally, you see her making a guest appearance on the small screen. So she isn't hiding per se. She just has no need for the B.S. that sometimes comes with being in mainstream television. To her, I think Suzanne is still a representative of some of that B.S., and Joyce wants no part of it. It's as simple as that.

I bet if we were to peek into her life for a day we'd all see a stable, comfortable, happy woman in Joyce who just acknowledges missing her friend (John Ritter) when asked about it.

Wanna bet what we'd see if we were to do the same with Suzanne???


Ed

[Heart Shaped Box]

Can anyone post this up on youtube or something?

[nightc1]

I think this whole Joyce / Suzanne thing has gone on long enough. But I don't see it ever getting worked out. Suzanne is pretty smart about how the industry works and isn't going to let herself get railroaded. Even if it means not appearing for free on DVD sets that would make the studio producing them very good money at John's expense. Even if it means turning an interview about her products back to her products instead of focusing in on the side paths that the inteviews go on about Three's Company. Joyce on the other hand is happy to work for the studios producing the DVD's for FREE, to give away her time and whatnot even though the studio is going to make good money on the dvd's expecially due to her appearing in some of the special features.

It the end none of it really is about John... it's still the same old story about how the industry tries to use people as much as possible and while some are willing to be used.. others aren't quite as easy and thus the rift continues to eternity.

Personally, I think Joyce needs to take off her rose colored glasses and try to understand Suzanne's point of view a bit more... and Suzanne needs to be a little more giving with regards to interviews about Three's Company despite how bad that situation ended.

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Oh, yeah... someone should Youtube this for certain. I'm sure it's all just the typical chopped up interview stuff. I'm curious what terrible thing the interviewer told Joyce to make her yet again leave due to something Suzanne supposedly did.