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wiseguy182 · 09-10-2006, 06:41 AM

and here's a link to some info on it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387877/

MsCooper · 09-21-2006, 12:44 AM

The gentleman who claims that the killer is his deceased father and I talked for some time a couple of years ago. He made contact with me because we both had the same plight going on - to prove that someone we loved and knew had committed a crime. He was very sincere in his search and it obviously paid off. All my search had done is to cause me a lot of grief.

He convinced me that his father was indeed the right man and after people see the movie (which I haven't)I hope he is vindicated. When a documentary that I participated in resulted in phone calls and letters saying you have been vindicated - that made most of the grief worth it.

His father being the killer is what makes sense to me and I watched the documentary twice. If anyone has seen the movie please tell me about it...I will probably not get to go as I haven't seen a movie in about 10yrs. except what comes over the antenna on the local channels.

skunk ape · 09-25-2006, 01:23 PM

Beware: The Black Dahlia is loosely based on James Ellroy's novel and isn't very good.

Tighthead · 09-25-2006, 03:48 PM

The novel was outstanding, but I can't imagine it translating well to the screen.

archy · 09-29-2006, 05:37 PM

The movie not surprisingly turned out to run phoney from the beginning [cops supposedly shooing away reporters from the body, when in reality it was reporter Will Fowler and his photog Felix Paegel who were first on thescene.

Fowler, unfortunately, passed away in 2004, but not before he'd read Steve Hodel's book [or had it or parts of it read to him] and I wonder if Hodel got any feedback from him.

Neither am I a bit surprised that Hollywood strayed far from the actual story. I don't think they'd like having all the details about LaLa Land in those days coming out.

Tighthead · 09-30-2006, 12:18 AM

Neither the book or movie claim to accurate- it is historical fiction, emphasis on the fiction. The author, Ellroy, was fascinated by the similarities between his Mom's murder and the Dahlia case. If you read his autobiography, My Dark Places, you get where he is coming from.

greatgarrett2 · 10-05-2006, 12:05 AM

I agree that the movie (which I've seen) steers away from actual fact. In the movie Elizabeth Short was made out to be rather promiscuous and to have acted in stag films.....I have read and heard otherwise. I believe she was actually just a mixed up girl who ran into the wrong crowd. I could be wrong too, but the movie didn't tell the real story like it was IMO.

Bazorro · 10-05-2006, 01:22 AM

Some people think the Black Dahlia murder was also the same person who did the Kingsbury Run murders in Cleveland Ohio.

The guy who Eliot Ness thought it was just happened to be out in California during this period of time.

greatgarrett2 · 10-05-2006, 01:27 AM

Well, it sure was the same style of kill (Torso).

An 80s Guy · 10-07-2006, 09:08 AM

I did not like this movie don't waste your money on seeing it.

greatgarrett2 · 10-15-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazorro

Some people think the Black Dahlia murder was also the same person who did the Kingsbury Run murders in Cleveland Ohio.

The guy who Eliot Ness thought it was just happened to be out in California during this period of time.

Yes, I just watched the Black Dahlia segment. Apparently some people think Ness knew the suspect's name and that he had been to med school. Also, the suspect was a member of a prominant Cleveland family and to clear the name, when the heat was on, checked himself regularily into an Ohio Mental Hospital. He also checked himself in for protection obviously.

And, it was legal to walk away if one voluntarily checked him/herself in. So, that could explain the murders in California. I think (not so sure), Ness received a letter in Cleveland apparently from the killer saying the killer was continuing his quest for 'science' in 'Sunny California.'

Striking similarities. One of my favorite unsolved murder-mysteries.

MsCooper · 10-16-2006, 01:18 AM

You guys have convinced me that I don't want to see the movie. The documentary was obviously much better. Maybe my search is best left on the web as it is. I have a producer who says he will tell the story the right way, but I have always feared that it might end up being something not in good taste nor anywhere near the truth as I know it and that my research bear out.

Someday maybe the truth will come out for Elizabeth Short and the man who has maintained that his father was the killer. Or perhaps it will remain unsolved just as the plight of D.B. Cooper on that faithful night in Nov. of 1971 has eluded an ending

greatgarrett2 · 10-16-2006, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MsCooper

Or perhaps it will remain unsolved just as the plight of D.B. Cooper on that faithful night in Nov. of 1971 has eluded an ending

D.B. Cooper, another interesting case. A good speculation book is titled: D.B.Cooper: What Really Happened? by Max Gunther, if you don't already have it that is.

If the story is true, it tells what really bacame of the man called D.B.Cooper after he landed in Washington State by a woman named 'Clara'.

'Clara' says she took care of him and nursed his injury after his fall.

As I said, if the story is true. A good speculation book, tho as it makes you wonder, could it have been D.B. Cooper?

Link to amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/D-B-Cooper-Rea...e=UTF8&s=books

Cheers and good luck!

elvisfan · 10-31-2006, 04:23 PM

I saw The Black Dahlia and it was horrible. Two hours of my life that I will never get back..

boechsner · 10-31-2006, 08:48 PM

I saw the movie and it was great. If you like DePalma, you will like this. As usual with a DePalma film, the visuals where fantastic. However, I feel the screenplay was weak. Overall, not DePalma's best!

09-10-2006, 06:41 AM	#1
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09-25-2006, 01:23 PM	#3
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09-21-2006, 12:44 AM	#2
MsCooper D.B. Cooper 1971 Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 15, 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 306	The gentleman who claims that the killer is his deceased father and I talked for some time a couple of years ago. He made contact with me because we both had the same plight going on - to prove that someone we loved and knew had committed a crime. He was very sincere in his search and it obviously paid off. All my search had done is to cause me a lot of grief. He convinced me that his father was indeed the right man and after people see the movie (which I haven't)I hope he is vindicated. When a documentary that I participated in resulted in phone calls and letters saying you have been vindicated - that made most of the grief worth it. His father being the killer is what makes sense to me and I watched the documentary twice. If anyone has seen the movie please tell me about it...I will probably not get to go as I haven't seen a movie in about 10yrs. except what comes over the antenna on the local channels.

09-25-2006, 03:48 PM	#4
Tighthead Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 199	The novel was outstanding, but I can't imagine it translating well to the screen.

09-29-2006, 05:37 PM	#5
archy Member Forum Hawk Join Date: Sep 14, 2006 Location: USA Posts: 4	The movie not surprisingly turned out to run phoney from the beginning [cops supposedly shooing away reporters from the body, when in reality it was reporter Will Fowler and his photog Felix Paegel who were first on thescene. Fowler, unfortunately, passed away in 2004, but not before he'd read Steve Hodel's book [or had it or parts of it read to him] and I wonder if Hodel got any feedback from him. Neither am I a bit surprised that Hollywood strayed far from the actual story. I don't think they'd like having all the details about LaLa Land in those days coming out.

09-30-2006, 12:18 AM	#6
Tighthead Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 15, 2006 Posts: 199	Neither the book or movie claim to accurate- it is historical fiction, emphasis on the fiction. The author, Ellroy, was fascinated by the similarities between his Mom's murder and the Dahlia case. If you read his autobiography, My Dark Places, you get where he is coming from.

10-05-2006, 01:22 AM	#8
Bazorro Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 05, 2005 Posts: 41	Some people think the Black Dahlia murder was also the same person who did the Kingsbury Run murders in Cleveland Ohio. The guy who Eliot Ness thought it was just happened to be out in California during this period of time.

10-05-2006, 01:27 AM	#9
greatgarrett2 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 11, 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 544	Well, it sure was the same style of kill (Torso).

10-07-2006, 09:08 AM	#10
An 80s Guy legen-wait for it-dary! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 03, 2005 Location: Austin,Texas Posts: 1,870	I did not like this movie don't waste your money on seeing it.

10-16-2006, 01:18 AM	#12
MsCooper D.B. Cooper 1971 Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 15, 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 306	You guys have convinced me that I don't want to see the movie. The documentary was obviously much better. Maybe my search is best left on the web as it is. I have a producer who says he will tell the story the right way, but I have always feared that it might end up being something not in good taste nor anywhere near the truth as I know it and that my research bear out. Someday maybe the truth will come out for Elizabeth Short and the man who has maintained that his father was the killer. Or perhaps it will remain unsolved just as the plight of D.B. Cooper on that faithful night in Nov. of 1971 has eluded an ending

10-31-2006, 04:23 PM	#14
elvisfan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 10, 2003 Posts: 17	I saw The Black Dahlia and it was horrible. Two hours of my life that I will never get back..

10-31-2006, 08:48 PM	#15
boechsner Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 18, 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 2,212	I saw the movie and it was great. If you like DePalma, you will like this. As usual with a DePalma film, the visuals where fantastic. However, I feel the screenplay was weak. Overall, not DePalma's best!