tradder check

[passionsfan79]

abblessed316@aol.com has anyone heard of this tradder before?

[Lamont]

did u learn anything on the guy?

[passionsfan79]

just that he was gonna let me know when he was gonna mail the dvds.

[T-Greg]

I'm not coming up with anything. It's likely a new email address.

[savageamusement]

If the meail doesn't strike any info, remember you can put in the CITY and STATE.
Do not put the exact address.

If you are supposed to send I am assuming they have shared their address by now, most often a city/stae will ring a bell faster than an email since meails can change far more easily
And let us not forget AOL is free now.
Just like Hotmail and Yahoo, and Juno.

[savageamusement]

Sigh

I have reason to believe this is another user on here as well

[passionsfan79]

I havent even seen this guy post on here. He also emailed me on another accont to see if I had any episodes of Different Strokes because thats what he emailed me about he claimed that he had the complete set. Once I got the email I was starting to wonder.

[savageamusement]

When in doubt, have them send first.

If they refuse, make the offer ot have them send to an unbiased party.

IN example at times before I have had trader A and trader B both send to me.
When both are received, I send both sides out.

If nothing is received form the opposite party, the items are returned

That way a third party moderates/mediates the situation

What you have to ask yourself is if they are not a member here-

How did they come across you-

Why are they trying to trade OFF a site, when that offers no protection

As a last resort-

If you click on "see full headers" form their aol email-

Send it to me or another modeartor and we can run it against previous troublesome users.

Or previous users stating the same items were available.

Most often, a user is chased off the Sitcoms site for bad trading or scamming
and they create a new account, and use it only to see and check email addresses-
they contact peopel off the site, offer to trade, but the perosn has to send first
And then nothing arrives

If you want to trade this way, be willing to lose what you send.

My advice is always the same

Get their name/trader name/user name
and run a check-
Either here, or the yahoo sites or traders report.

if nothing comes back, conisder that.

Consider their email source.
Is it a paid account, is it a free account

Consider their items
are they rare?

Conisder the fact if they are new, and they contacted you, why are you expected to send first.

And last but not least-
if the trade goes bad-
What will yo udo.

You have no user name.
No trader name-
They were not on a site, to be moderated or removed.

You have an address, that you sent- which can be anything frm a friend to workplace, to email buddy they asked to received a package.
SO you have - really, nothing to forewarn others.

I am not saying every new trader has to send first, and I am not saying every new trader is a bad trader.

But what I am saying is, take precaution, because this person, you ran a check on, has not just contacted you.
2 others have written me- and they privately told them the same thing-
and also asked to send first.

So why are they contacting people off Sitcoms, as a non member.
If they are obviouslly trying to trade multiple times, with multiple users.
Why aren't they trying to build up a reputation.


If they really want to trade you, have them send first.
They can research you, they know who you are- you are an established trader
But my guess, they will have an excuse not to send first.
And my other guess is, they have nothing to send anyhow.

Its hit or miss for every 5 people they contact ONE will be dumb enough to send first.


If you send me the COMPLETE headers for the email they sent you off aol, I think I know who to compare it to-


my email is

savageamusement@comcast.net

[savageamusement]

Well I was contacted by them tonight 3x




They contacted me, in request I remove them from the "trade with caution" area of Sitcoms.
Stating that since they are not a member here, I can not add them.

I disagree, and have as in the past always updated this list to those who are bad sellers
bad traders
And suspicious behavior.

The fact is

Their IP does in fact route to NY
while their address states Florida

They are only asking people to send first

They have shows NO one has seen on a list in a decade

And no one has any dealings with them
No feedback nor can they find a membership for them on any site.
And yet, they contacted to date, at least a dozen users-

So whiel they told me tonight they are not ON this site
They don't mind hwoever using the site to contact members-

This site was designed to provide a safe trading harbor for users
with modeartors, owners, administrators to help avoid scamming, and manipulative or deceptive behavior

The information - such as emails and lists are a privledge to those members, here-
to set up safe trades.

To contact users, and read the site,without being a member- to try to set up trades offering no security-
goes against the very idea of the system we have in place.
And therefore I stand my ground and will not remove them from the list.

As well they are on 2 Yahoo Scammer Alert lists, as well as 2 private sites I frequent.
So why they are selecting this site, makes me wonder
as has the rest of their behavior thus far.

However, I stand by the fact I feel contacting members on a site you are not registered to, asking them to send first and set up a trade that has no protection, IS SUSPICIOUS.

if anyone disagrees with this, please let me know.

[Lamont]

they are on scammer lists on other groups?????

HELLO??? that is a pretty good indication wouldnt u say????

what is the old saying.... a leopard dont change his spots!!!!!

[digitalmonkey]

Originally Posted by savageamusement

Well I was contacted by them tonight 3x




They contacted me, in request I remove them from the "trade with caution" area of Sitcoms.
Stating that since they are not a member here, I can not add them.

I disagree, and have as in the past always updated this list to those who are bad sellers
bad traders
And suspicious behavior.

The fact is

Their IP does in fact route to NY
while their address states Florida

They are only asking people to send first

They have shows NO one has seen on a list in a decade

And no one has any dealings with them
No feedback nor can they find a membership for them on any site.
And yet, they contacted to date, at least a dozen users-

So whiel they told me tonight they are not ON this site
They don't mind hwoever using the site to contact members-

This site was designed to provide a safe trading harbor for users
with modeartors, owners, administrators to help avoid scamming, and manipulative or deceptive behavior

The information - such as emails and lists are a privledge to those members, here-
to set up safe trades.

To contact users, and read the site,without being a member- to try to set up trades offering no security-
goes against the very idea of the system we have in place.
And therefore I stand my ground and will not remove them from the list.

As well they are on 2 Yahoo Scammer Alert lists, as well as 2 private sites I frequent.
So why they are selecting this site, makes me wonder
as has the rest of their behavior thus far.

However, I stand by the fact I feel contacting members on a site you are not registered to, asking them to send first and set up a trade that has no protection, IS SUSPICIOUS.

if anyone disagrees with this, please let me know.

So who is it?

[savageamusement]

They aren't a user here, that is the point

They go by
ABBLESSED316@aol.com


And they are contacting users here, but not a member here.

asking peopel to send first-
having items no one has-
their IP was in NY
but their address was FL

3 other sites have the email as a scammer, so I posted it on the caution list- and they contacted me to remove it tonight.

I will not