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justins5256 · 08-28-2006, 11:26 PM

Any thoughts on this case?

I tend to think Huey Littleton is spinning his wheels. Prudehomme confessed. Two of Prudehomme's buddies were charged as accessories (anyone know the outcome of their trials?) On the flipside, rumors surfaced that Sheriff McElveen's son was involved in the murders. If this is true a coverup seems pretty likely.

Also, why didn't the police confirm that Pam Ellender was raped? If she was, there would have been evidence. Someone close to the case told me that DNA was found at the crime scene. Was it ever traced to Prudhomme?

DarkDante · 08-29-2006, 09:42 AM

Huey Littleton is a prime example of someone doing more harm than good on UM. While I have no doubt he is sincere in his beliefs that there is more to the story in his daughter and son in law's deaths and would even say that some of his theories are plausible, Huey Littleton really loses the audience in this segment with his moralistic and over the top "performance".

I know that a lot of the families of victims on UM tend to show emotion and that is fine but Huey Littleton just seems to go over the top with a great many of his comments and tends to alienate the viewer, making his claims carry less weight with the viewer.

greatgarrett2 · 08-30-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

Any thoughts on this case?

I tend to think Huey Littleton is spinning his wheels. Prudehomme confessed. Two of Prudehomme's buddies were charged as accessories (anyone know the outcome of their trials?) On the flipside, rumors surfaced that Sheriff McElveen's son was involved in the murders. If this is true a coverup seems pretty likely.

Also, why didn't the police confirm that Pam Ellender was raped? If she was, there would have been evidence. Someone close to the case told me that DNA was found at the crime scene. Was it ever traced to Prudhomme?

So, it seems that Huey is just looking for something that's not there?

If, like you said, Prudehomme confessed and another two were charged as accessories, then they should leave it at that. They know it's possibly Satan worshippers and the community knows who the culprits were.

But, I think Huey just seems to think that there is a cover-up and there's more to the story. God love him for trying, but I personally don't think much more can be done if the main culprits were already arrested.

Just a thought.

crystaldawn · 08-31-2006, 07:14 AM

Well I found Huey to be one of the most memorable people ever interviewed on UM and extremely intense. I think a few people in the gang killed them and Littleton seems to want everyone who was anywhere near the house that night hung and thats why he can't leave it alone. Like JS and I have discussed before we are skeptical that there was ever a party that night at the Ellender's house but no doubt a lot of people really know what happened that night and aren't really cooperating unless its go get some air time on UM. Did anyone else think that - that these teenagers on the segment just wanted their 15 minutes of fame?

JS was it proven that she was raped?

justins5256 · 08-31-2006, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

Did anyone else think that - that these teenagers on the segment just wanted their 15 minutes of fame?

Chip Ricard. I didn't believe a single word that came out of his mouth.

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

JS was it proven that she was raped?

I'm not sure aside from the obvious allegations. However, a person whom I spoke with that knew some parties involved in the case claimed that DNA was found. This intrigues me. If the DNA can be linked to Prudehomme, it would be another nail in the coffin. If the DNA did not match any of those arrested, then we know others were involved. It seems like it could make or break the case either way and I'm surprised more information about it hasn't been made public.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that with regard to Chip Ricard, he has said in print media that he WAS at the house. So, which is it, Chip? Were you there, or did you just watch it at home on videotape? What a moron...

wiseguy182 · 09-03-2006, 12:10 AM

Just re-watched the segment yesterday. The segment stated that it appeared as though both Pam AND Eric were raped, both more than once. It was immediately following the announcement of that, that Huey Littleton said "This is the lowest that humans can....dig and furrow." I agree with Huey there, and can certainly sympathize with his loss and what he went through. However, it sounds like he might have went a tad overboard as others have mentioned, as apparently the area police won't have anything to do with him anymore. But still, there's no doubt what happened in that house that night was very, very sick.

I'm not sure if I believe there was a party there or not. I definitely think it was more than one person. The segment stated that Huey had interviewed a hundred and some odd witnesses, which may be true, but it seems like that many people would have caused for a loud enough party that it would have warranted neighbors calling police, which evidently didn't happen. I'm also wondering why no neighbors heard gunshots - I guess they must have used a pillow or something.

This case is a tough one to keep track of because there's so many people involved and so many instances where someone says something, then retracts it and says another, and stuff like that. I recall at least one witness stating that Prudhomme and an accomplice went in only with the intention of burglarizing the place, but I would doubt that. These seem like pre-meditated murdres to me.

hovaslash · 09-06-2006, 10:38 AM

Don't know if i buy that there was a large party there either, maybe more like
a few people. It would have caused too much commotion. It also seems like
the those implicated in the case have concocted a circle of lies and nonsense
so vague and thick that the authorities have had a tough time even knowing where to begin. Nontheless, Mr. Littleton should give them as much rage and hell as possible until something substantial is done. How could those actions
go unpunished?

Jediknight1823 · 09-06-2006, 01:47 PM

I think that there was more than one person involved. I don't know if I believe that there was a party, but I think that quite a few people were there after the murder.

This case is just creepy.

unsolved88 · 12-05-2006, 07:46 PM

I thought that Huey Littleton came off as very arrogant in the interview. As DD said, it was enough to turn the viewer off.

Knightsangel · 11-24-2012, 03:14 PM

I have listened to the talk that never went away, even when I was gone for over 10 years, I came back, and still Littleton had paid people to say what he wanted. The one Person that I have not seen, nor read about was named Kurt Reese, he was the older one with the long hair that is shown in the "planning a cover up" part. {I think anyway} Now being from here, and watching everything that happen I have a few questions for anyone that wants to answer for me:
1. The house in question was at the time in the midldle of nowhere, so how the hell did anyone get to this house to be at a party? Oh, almost forgot that none of them had cars.
2. Have you ever tried to have a teenage boy clean anythng? If not then you need to got hang out with one a while, they do not as a rule clean well, much less good enough to not tell anyone was there.
3. Chip Ricard. Really, you wanted to be on TV right well that is what you always told everyone. A video, really where the hell is it, and why has no one ever sold Littleton a copy of it, he put up a hell of a lot to try to get a copy of someting that you made up.
I am finished venting should I hear anything else about this, I'll post here.

1990 UM fan · 11-25-2012, 01:27 AM

It bothers me that they were raped after being shot to death with a shotgun, and people partying while their bodies were still in the house. These cult-like murders have always mystified me (Pam & Eric Ellender, Michael Johnson & Rochelle Robinson, etc.). Some people want to debunk the idea of these murders being related to satanic cults, and it's hard to know who really committed the murders since there's many suspects and no one's talking.

TheCars1986 · 11-25-2012, 11:11 AM

I personally have never bought the whole "party" aspect of this story. I think Prudhomme and his accomplices broke into the house intending to burglarize it, and when they were surprised to find the Ellenders home, Prudhomme shot and killed them. I don't think Prudhomme would have bragged about killing the Ellenders in his suicide note to simply cover up a cult-like murder spree. I just think he was a sick bastard who was proud of what he did.

MegtheEgg86 · 11-25-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

I personally have never bought the whole "party" aspect of this story. I think Prudhomme and his accomplices broke into the house intending to burglarize it, and when they were surprised to find the Ellenders home, Prudhomme shot and killed them. I don't think Prudhomme would have bragged about killing the Ellenders in his suicide note to simply cover up a cult-like murder spree. I just think he was a sick bastard who was proud of what he did.

Me too. I think the only "cult" here was simply a gang of criminals. I think a couple, including Prudhomme, were more violent than the others, and that groupthink played a large role in these murders.

DALLASTEXAN!! · 11-30-2014, 03:50 PM

Well after the story aired two people got indicted. So there obviously was more to the story.

It must have been awfully frustrating for the prime suspect to commit suicide in a case like this where there were so many unanswered questions. Mr. Littleton was a parent looking for closure so for that I cannot find fault with him. In many cases on UM parents went deep into these cases and angered law enforcement but I never found fault with parents. When you have children you will do anything for them and I cannot imagine what some of these parents went through. Now I'm sure mr Littleton made some mistakes and came off as brasin to some. But I thought his comments and body language were sincere especially at the end of the segment. And honestly i thought the comments made by the official investigator were more distasteful coming from a professional.

As far as the party and the satanist theories lot of cases were spiced up by UM to add to the tv side to add mystery and this could have been one of them.

MegtheEgg86 · 11-30-2014, 09:06 PM

I never understood the Huey Littleton hate myself. He was obviously a deeply grieving parent who seemed to have gone down a rabbit hole with those wacked-out kids. He was just desperate for answers, and he thought he was getting them. I also never thought he came off poorly in his interview, and that that whole "we felt sorry for him at first" line by the official investigator was in particularly poor taste. That individual basically flat-out admitted that his agency may not have been impartial in its investigation.

Now that story those kids told? I think every last bit of it is utter BS with the exception that they all attested that Chris Prudhomme was involved. ESPECIALLY anything that came out of Chip Richard's mouth. I do not (and have never) believed that "snuff video" story for a single minute.

08-28-2006, 11:26 PM	#1
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Who Killed the Ellenders? Any thoughts on this case? I tend to think Huey Littleton is spinning his wheels. Prudehomme confessed. Two of Prudehomme's buddies were charged as accessories (anyone know the outcome of their trials?) On the flipside, rumors surfaced that Sheriff McElveen's son was involved in the murders. If this is true a coverup seems pretty likely. Also, why didn't the police confirm that Pam Ellender was raped? If she was, there would have been evidence. Someone close to the case told me that DNA was found at the crime scene. Was it ever traced to Prudhomme?

11-24-2012, 03:14 PM	#10
Knightsangel Member First Time Poster Join Date: Nov 24, 2012 Location: South Posts: 1	Do you know how many lives Littleton Ruined??? I have listened to the talk that never went away, even when I was gone for over 10 years, I came back, and still Littleton had paid people to say what he wanted. The one Person that I have not seen, nor read about was named Kurt Reese, he was the older one with the long hair that is shown in the "planning a cover up" part. {I think anyway} Now being from here, and watching everything that happen I have a few questions for anyone that wants to answer for me: 1. The house in question was at the time in the midldle of nowhere, so how the hell did anyone get to this house to be at a party? Oh, almost forgot that none of them had cars. 2. Have you ever tried to have a teenage boy clean anythng? If not then you need to got hang out with one a while, they do not as a rule clean well, much less good enough to not tell anyone was there. 3. Chip Ricard. Really, you wanted to be on TV right well that is what you always told everyone. A video, really where the hell is it, and why has no one ever sold Littleton a copy of it, he put up a hell of a lot to try to get a copy of someting that you made up. I am finished venting should I hear anything else about this, I'll post here.

11-25-2012, 01:27 AM	#11
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08-29-2006, 09:42 AM	#2
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Huey Littleton is a prime example of someone doing more harm than good on UM. While I have no doubt he is sincere in his beliefs that there is more to the story in his daughter and son in law's deaths and would even say that some of his theories are plausible, Huey Littleton really loses the audience in this segment with his moralistic and over the top "performance". I know that a lot of the families of victims on UM tend to show emotion and that is fine but Huey Littleton just seems to go over the top with a great many of his comments and tends to alienate the viewer, making his claims carry less weight with the viewer.

08-31-2006, 07:14 AM	#4
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Well I found Huey to be one of the most memorable people ever interviewed on UM and extremely intense. I think a few people in the gang killed them and Littleton seems to want everyone who was anywhere near the house that night hung and thats why he can't leave it alone. Like JS and I have discussed before we are skeptical that there was ever a party that night at the Ellender's house but no doubt a lot of people really know what happened that night and aren't really cooperating unless its go get some air time on UM. Did anyone else think that - that these teenagers on the segment just wanted their 15 minutes of fame? JS was it proven that she was raped?

09-03-2006, 12:10 AM	#6
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Just re-watched the segment yesterday. The segment stated that it appeared as though both Pam AND Eric were raped, both more than once. It was immediately following the announcement of that, that Huey Littleton said "This is the lowest that humans can....dig and furrow." I agree with Huey there, and can certainly sympathize with his loss and what he went through. However, it sounds like he might have went a tad overboard as others have mentioned, as apparently the area police won't have anything to do with him anymore. But still, there's no doubt what happened in that house that night was very, very sick. I'm not sure if I believe there was a party there or not. I definitely think it was more than one person. The segment stated that Huey had interviewed a hundred and some odd witnesses, which may be true, but it seems like that many people would have caused for a loud enough party that it would have warranted neighbors calling police, which evidently didn't happen. I'm also wondering why no neighbors heard gunshots - I guess they must have used a pillow or something. This case is a tough one to keep track of because there's so many people involved and so many instances where someone says something, then retracts it and says another, and stuff like that. I recall at least one witness stating that Prudhomme and an accomplice went in only with the intention of burglarizing the place, but I would doubt that. These seem like pre-meditated murdres to me.

09-06-2006, 10:38 AM	#7
hovaslash Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 10, 2006 Location: ma Posts: 87	Don't know if i buy that there was a large party there either, maybe more like a few people. It would have caused too much commotion. It also seems like the those implicated in the case have concocted a circle of lies and nonsense so vague and thick that the authorities have had a tough time even knowing where to begin. Nontheless, Mr. Littleton should give them as much rage and hell as possible until something substantial is done. How could those actions go unpunished?

09-06-2006, 01:47 PM	#8
Jediknight1823 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 283	I think that there was more than one person involved. I don't know if I believe that there was a party, but I think that quite a few people were there after the murder. This case is just creepy.

12-05-2006, 07:46 PM	#9
unsolved88 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 16, 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 514	I thought that Huey Littleton came off as very arrogant in the interview. As DD said, it was enough to turn the viewer off.

11-25-2012, 11:11 AM	#12
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	I personally have never bought the whole "party" aspect of this story. I think Prudhomme and his accomplices broke into the house intending to burglarize it, and when they were surprised to find the Ellenders home, Prudhomme shot and killed them. I don't think Prudhomme would have bragged about killing the Ellenders in his suicide note to simply cover up a cult-like murder spree. I just think he was a sick bastard who was proud of what he did.

11-30-2014, 03:50 PM	#14
DALLASTEXAN!! Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 31, 2007 Location: Devil's Backbone Posts: 3,138	Well after the story aired two people got indicted. So there obviously was more to the story. It must have been awfully frustrating for the prime suspect to commit suicide in a case like this where there were so many unanswered questions. Mr. Littleton was a parent looking for closure so for that I cannot find fault with him. In many cases on UM parents went deep into these cases and angered law enforcement but I never found fault with parents. When you have children you will do anything for them and I cannot imagine what some of these parents went through. Now I'm sure mr Littleton made some mistakes and came off as brasin to some. But I thought his comments and body language were sincere especially at the end of the segment. And honestly i thought the comments made by the official investigator were more distasteful coming from a professional. As far as the party and the satanist theories lot of cases were spiced up by UM to add to the tv side to add mystery and this could have been one of them.

11-30-2014, 09:06 PM	#15
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	I never understood the Huey Littleton hate myself. He was obviously a deeply grieving parent who seemed to have gone down a rabbit hole with those wacked-out kids. He was just desperate for answers, and he thought he was getting them. I also never thought he came off poorly in his interview, and that that whole "we felt sorry for him at first" line by the official investigator was in particularly poor taste. That individual basically flat-out admitted that his agency may not have been impartial in its investigation. Now that story those kids told? I think every last bit of it is utter BS with the exception that they all attested that Chris Prudhomme was involved. ESPECIALLY anything that came out of Chip Richard's mouth. I do not (and have never) believed that "snuff video" story for a single minute.