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SP4CE INV4DERZ · 08-27-2006, 09:04 AM

Would there be any updates to the "bizarre" murder of Morris Davis? I say bizarre becoz to me the facts presented on Unsolved Mysteries just doesnt add up. After watching this again just recently I was left scratching my head over this;

The murder weapon was discovered 3 years later 185 miles away. It was only discovered after a traffic stop for a guy driving a stolen car bought it from a porn shop. It was sold to the porn shop by another guy who stolen it from his friend (who is the owner) and it was reported stolen by the owner 3 days earlier. Neither the thief nor the owner have any knowledge of Morris Davis' murder... My question is, the owner knew of the gun being stolen for the 3 days before it was discovered at the traffic stop but didn't know of the gun being stolen 3 years earlier to commit the murder... I find this hard to believe.

A memorable quote from Stack sums it up "obviously guns don't get up walk off on their own" and then why would the thief/murderer return it after committing the murder? All this supposedly done without the owner of the gun's knowledge. I am left to wonder, there are 2 known people who knew where the gun was kept... I really think that one of them has gotten away with murder.

justins5256 · 08-27-2006, 09:50 AM

Crystaldawn and I were discussing this same question recently. It seems the original ballistics tests may have been botched.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...t=Morris+Davis

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 08-27-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

Crystaldawn and I were discussing this same question recently. It seems the original ballistics tests may have been botched.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...t=Morris+Davis

Thank you for the link, unfortuneately that article is now gone. I'm still not sure exactly where a possible botched ballistics test leaves us on this one, let me sleep on it. For now, I guess it remains... an Unsolved Mystery.

kadrmas15 · 08-27-2006, 12:46 PM

Well I watched this segment the other day. The original ballistics tests botched huh? Wow. That is too bad if that is the case because the Davis family never really has got justice for this. Someone is obviously lying in terms of the three guys involved with the gun. First there was the guy who pawned it off. He was the one pulled over for driving the stolen car right? I am sure he didnt know about the murder because if he did why would he take the gun to Great Falls the same town where the murder occured and pawn it off? As for the owner he lived in Oregon, he claimed to not know anything about the murder and didnt know his gun had been stolen. Either he is lying and he was the one who did it or he lent it to a friend perhaps and the friend went to Montana and did it. Maybe the guy didnt truly know his gun had been stolen? But that would mean that someone would have had to steal the gun go to Montana and have the gun for who knows how long and then go back to Oregon and return it. You are right there are things that arent adding up here. I have also been very curious as to why someone from Oregon would go all the way over to Montana just to committ robbery. I mean we arent talking a bank robbery where you could get several grand we are talking of a robbery where the robber only netted three hundred dollars. Lots of things with this case that dont add up. I have also always wondered how no one saw anything. I know it was at night but Great Falls isnt exactly a huge town although by Montana standards it is one of the bigger ones. I have always wondered how the neighbors didnt see anything unusual. The neighbors had to have known that the house was for sale and that the people who had lived there previously had moved out. I wonder how someone could notice the lights being on over there and think something unusual was going on.

LooksLikeCRicci · 08-27-2006, 03:40 PM

This case is so baffling. I really feel for the family of Morris Davis in this one because there are so few answers to so many questions. I agree that it's awfully coincidental that a gun was stolen from Oregon, taken to Great Falls, and then pawned off there years after the crime. I also find it odd that someone would set up a pizza delivery man and murder him for such a small amount of cash.

I read an article about this case the other day in the Great Falls Tribune. I'll post a link to it if I can find it again, but I want to say that the case is still unsolved.

EDIT: I got into the Great Falls Tribune archives, but I could not access the articles, mainly because I didn't want to buy them.

However, I can tell you with certainty that the case is still unsolved and that the family is seeking to boost the reward being offered in this case.

mozartpc27 · 08-02-2008, 02:19 PM

There are basically three possibilities here: The guy who owned the gun really was the killer, the guy who stole it and sold it to the pawn shop really was the killer (and had stolen it not three days before he was arrested but three years before), or, if both of those possibilties can be conclusively eliminated, the ballistics test was wrong. If they really did clear the two dudes who were known to have possession of the gun, then the test simply must have been wrong. No other explanation makes sense.

charmedsignora · 08-06-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mozartpc27

If they really did clear the two dudes who were known to have possession of the gun, then the test simply must have been wrong. No other explanation makes sense.

Unless the killer is deliberately creating confusion---ha!

CanadianUMFan · 08-17-2008, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mozartpc27

There are basically three possibilities here: The guy who owned the gun really was the killer, the guy who stole it and sold it to the pawn shop really was the killer (and had stolen it not three days before he was arrested but three years before), or, if both of those possibilties can be conclusively eliminated, the ballistics test was wrong. If they really did clear the two dudes who were known to have possession of the gun, then the test simply must have been wrong. No other explanation makes sense.

I agree with your assessment. On the site that cannot be named, a poster says that the gun was re-tested a year later and there was no match with the slugs from the Davis crime scene.

Robert Stack mentions that the police had a motive in this case. What motive was he referring to? For some reason, I doubt that the $300 was the motive. This homicide didn't seem like a random one to me but what do you all think?

One other thing that I noticed was that the reward being offered for info on this homicide was only $7000. I just thought that that reward seemed a little low as far as rewards on homicide cases go.

LooksLikeCRicci · 08-18-2008, 02:56 PM

As far as the $300 not being a good motive for murder, I'm pretty sure UM covered a similar story of a man murdered at a phone booth (I think) for less than $50.

Part of the reason I think the reward was so low in the Morris Davis case was because his family didn't have much to offer. Last I heard, they were trying to up the reward money...

UMfan0682 · 08-18-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LooksLikeCRicci

As far as the $300 not being a good motive for murder, I'm pretty sure UM covered a similar story of a man murdered at a phone booth (I think) for less than $50.

That would be the Dwayne McCorkendale case. He was killed for I believe $25.00 at a phone booth

CanadianUMFan · 08-19-2008, 12:55 AM

This wasn't a spur-of-the-moment killing though which is why I can't see the $300 being the motive. Too much planning went into all of this for $300 to be the motive IMO.

synthisislab · 10-21-2009, 06:49 PM

"porn shop". lol

liv1527 · 10-21-2009, 10:16 PM

This case was bizzare. But if the ballistics test was botched, then this case is probably never gonna be solved. I think that is just the saddest part of all.

kadrmas15 · 10-22-2009, 06:08 AM

Well, basically, what I cannot find is, why Morris Davis Jr personally would be targeted for a killing? Personally I find it unusual how many times he was shot for it being a 'simple' robbery. Whoever did this killing broke into a vacant house, obviously they called the pizza parlor from another location. The only item the killer took was the delivery wallet, so I wonder if the killer was a former pizza delivery man that would have a general idea of how much money on average a delivery man would carry? This case is bizarre but I do not think the killing had anything to do with Morris Davis Jr personally in terms of him personally being a target for personal reasons. So that is why I tend to think it was a robbery although I think it was one of the more unusual robberies I have heard of. I mean it just seems an incredible amount of planning went into committing a small time robbery.

justins5256 · 10-22-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by synthisislab

"porn shop". lol

I guess we know what was really on Space Invaderz' mind when he typed this.

08-27-2006, 09:04 AM	#1
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 630	This just doesn't add up, Morris Davis Would there be any updates to the "bizarre" murder of Morris Davis? I say bizarre becoz to me the facts presented on Unsolved Mysteries just doesnt add up. After watching this again just recently I was left scratching my head over this; The murder weapon was discovered 3 years later 185 miles away. It was only discovered after a traffic stop for a guy driving a stolen car bought it from a porn shop. It was sold to the porn shop by another guy who stolen it from his friend (who is the owner) and it was reported stolen by the owner 3 days earlier. Neither the thief nor the owner have any knowledge of Morris Davis' murder... My question is, the owner knew of the gun being stolen for the 3 days before it was discovered at the traffic stop but didn't know of the gun being stolen 3 years earlier to commit the murder... I find this hard to believe. A memorable quote from Stack sums it up "obviously guns don't get up walk off on their own" and then why would the thief/murderer return it after committing the murder? All this supposedly done without the owner of the gun's knowledge. I am left to wonder, there are 2 known people who knew where the gun was kept... I really think that one of them has gotten away with murder.
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08-02-2008, 02:19 PM	#6
mozartpc27 Vigilante Logician Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 924	There are basically three possibilities here: The guy who owned the gun really was the killer, the guy who stole it and sold it to the pawn shop really was the killer (and had stolen it not three days before he was arrested but three years before), or, if both of those possibilties can be conclusively eliminated, the ballistics test was wrong. If they really did clear the two dudes who were known to have possession of the gun, then the test simply must have been wrong. No other explanation makes sense.
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08-27-2006, 09:50 AM	#2
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Crystaldawn and I were discussing this same question recently. It seems the original ballistics tests may have been botched. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...t=Morris+Davis

08-27-2006, 12:46 PM	#4
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well I watched this segment the other day. The original ballistics tests botched huh? Wow. That is too bad if that is the case because the Davis family never really has got justice for this. Someone is obviously lying in terms of the three guys involved with the gun. First there was the guy who pawned it off. He was the one pulled over for driving the stolen car right? I am sure he didnt know about the murder because if he did why would he take the gun to Great Falls the same town where the murder occured and pawn it off? As for the owner he lived in Oregon, he claimed to not know anything about the murder and didnt know his gun had been stolen. Either he is lying and he was the one who did it or he lent it to a friend perhaps and the friend went to Montana and did it. Maybe the guy didnt truly know his gun had been stolen? But that would mean that someone would have had to steal the gun go to Montana and have the gun for who knows how long and then go back to Oregon and return it. You are right there are things that arent adding up here. I have also been very curious as to why someone from Oregon would go all the way over to Montana just to committ robbery. I mean we arent talking a bank robbery where you could get several grand we are talking of a robbery where the robber only netted three hundred dollars. Lots of things with this case that dont add up. I have also always wondered how no one saw anything. I know it was at night but Great Falls isnt exactly a huge town although by Montana standards it is one of the bigger ones. I have always wondered how the neighbors didnt see anything unusual. The neighbors had to have known that the house was for sale and that the people who had lived there previously had moved out. I wonder how someone could notice the lights being on over there and think something unusual was going on.

08-27-2006, 03:40 PM	#5
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	This case is so baffling. I really feel for the family of Morris Davis in this one because there are so few answers to so many questions. I agree that it's awfully coincidental that a gun was stolen from Oregon, taken to Great Falls, and then pawned off there years after the crime. I also find it odd that someone would set up a pizza delivery man and murder him for such a small amount of cash. I read an article about this case the other day in the Great Falls Tribune. I'll post a link to it if I can find it again, but I want to say that the case is still unsolved. EDIT: I got into the Great Falls Tribune archives, but I could not access the articles, mainly because I didn't want to buy them. However, I can tell you with certainty that the case is still unsolved and that the family is seeking to boost the reward being offered in this case.

08-18-2008, 02:56 PM	#9
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	As far as the $300 not being a good motive for murder, I'm pretty sure UM covered a similar story of a man murdered at a phone booth (I think) for less than $50. Part of the reason I think the reward was so low in the Morris Davis case was because his family didn't have much to offer. Last I heard, they were trying to up the reward money...

08-19-2008, 12:55 AM	#11
CanadianUMFan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 21, 2007 Location: St Catharines, Ontario, Canada Posts: 215	This wasn't a spur-of-the-moment killing though which is why I can't see the $300 being the motive. Too much planning went into all of this for $300 to be the motive IMO.

10-21-2009, 06:49 PM	#12
synthisislab Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 552	"porn shop". lol

10-21-2009, 10:16 PM	#13
liv1527 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 08, 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 23	This case was bizzare. But if the ballistics test was botched, then this case is probably never gonna be solved. I think that is just the saddest part of all.

10-22-2009, 06:08 AM	#14
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well, basically, what I cannot find is, why Morris Davis Jr personally would be targeted for a killing? Personally I find it unusual how many times he was shot for it being a 'simple' robbery. Whoever did this killing broke into a vacant house, obviously they called the pizza parlor from another location. The only item the killer took was the delivery wallet, so I wonder if the killer was a former pizza delivery man that would have a general idea of how much money on average a delivery man would carry? This case is bizarre but I do not think the killing had anything to do with Morris Davis Jr personally in terms of him personally being a target for personal reasons. So that is why I tend to think it was a robbery although I think it was one of the more unusual robberies I have heard of. I mean it just seems an incredible amount of planning went into committing a small time robbery.