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Bootsy Whoosh · 09-13-2001, 10:48 PM

I have been catching up on the board here and I must say, some of the things I am reading are literally making me a little bit sick to my stomach! Things like "someone said the japs did it" or "if there's a war we are gonna kick bootay!" etc. etc. (and I am paraphrasing here...I don't remember who said what and I don't care, because I am not trying to single anyone out here.)

But I feel I have to say, we should not be celebrating IF (and I emphasize the "if") we go to war. War is no picnic! We can be patriotic, we can support our troops and our government, we can love the USA, but that is far different from jumping up and down and dancing around the room because we are going to war!

My suspicion is that many people posting such things are so young that they have never seen war (just being alive during Desert Storm doesn't count...I am saying some people must be too young to remember it). I remember where I was when Operation Desert Shield was escalated to Desert Storm, and I was only in sixth grade, but it was still a somber moment! I was not jumping up and down saying "go us, we are gonna kick some ass!"

Sheesh! I am just getting madder as I write. I am not wanting to come down hard on people, because I suspect some are too young and too immature to realize the full ramifications of what has happened, and I suppose I should not expect you to. I suppose many people here have never had to worry about their family and friends fighting overseas...But...well, I just don't know what to say anymore. I know I have no right to tell anyone how to think, behave, or feel, and this post is not intended to do that. But I at least have a right to voice how I feel, so I suppose that is all I am doing.

09-13-2001, 11:03 PM

That's Ok Bootsy, I understand. I don't like when ppl use the word "japs" either.

I must add to this that war is indeed no fun. And whether we want to admit it or not, when and if we do go to war to retaliate, it will make Desert Storm look like a picnic. Believe me, we will all suffer in some respect.

[This message has been edited by FOL & DS fan 4ever (edited 09-14-2001).]

Max Whittaker · 09-13-2001, 11:30 PM

Yes Bootsy, I've read some things by some members that I never expected them to say! But I think things are calming down a bit now.

I noticed you weren't around for a while. Welcome back. How are you holding up?

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Cokies · 09-13-2001, 11:51 PM

I know what you mean, Bootsy.
I just think it's hard for young people to grasp what happened, just like you said. I'm young, barely sixteen, and I'm still having a hard time comprehending it all.
As little as I remember from Desert Storm, I do recall knowing our country was "dealing with some bad guys", as my mother would sum it up for me then. Of course I understand it now, as I do the Oklahoma City Bombing(even more vividly).
But this is absolutely horrendous. It's still hard to think that hundreds, to thousands of people have died. Still hard to think that the Twin Towers aren't there anymore. Still hard to understand that someone could be capable of such a thing. Just to think of the hate they must of had for America.
They're just so blinded by their own misfortunes...

lesliem14 · 09-14-2001, 12:39 AM

Thank you Bootsy for posting this. I'm a World War I history buff and the parallels from what people thought war would be then and what it actually was and a lot of the responses on this board have been one and the same. People celebrated all over Europe when war broke out in 1914, thinking of it as a Romantic conquest, when it became anything but that. Europe hadn't experienced a war in 50 years, much like we haven't experienced a war since Vietnam. As a college student approaching graduation in May, I don't even want to think about my classmates and the crew guys (I'm on women's crew and we do a lot of stuff with the guy's team) being drafted and sent off to war, let alone my coach who is in the Navy Reserve. Too frightening for words and hearing people on this board considering war as a party does not help matters at all.

[This message has been edited by lesliem14 (edited 09-14-2001).]

09-14-2001, 01:07 AM

I have edited my message above (again) and I want to follow up on that by asking the following question: Has anyone at this board actually used the word "Jap" in a derogatory manner, or were they just quoting something that someone else said?

Ags2000 · 09-14-2001, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by FOL & DS fan 4ever:
I have edited my message above (again) and I want to follow up on that by asking the following question: Has anyone at this board actually used the word "Jap" in a derogatory manner, or were they just quoting something that someone else said?

I don't remember who said it, but basically what was posted was that they said somebody told them that they thought the japs had done this. They were quoting what somebody had told them. I don't think they meant for it to be derogatory in any manner, but that is what was posted at that time.

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09-14-2001, 01:50 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Ags2000. I hate to jump and use the word "racism" or "racist" when the person (whoever that was, it doesn't matter now...) was merely quoting someone else. I should have known that FOL fans are cooler than that!

09-14-2001, 01:57 AM

Sidenote: In the above message I said that FOL fans are cooler than that, assuming that whoever the poster was must have been a FOL fan. Sorry if I assumed wrong, but it seems like almost everyone who comes to this Chit-Chat board is a fan of FOL.

I'm done for now, and goodnight

theshark8777 · 09-14-2001, 08:55 AM

Thats what happens on a board full of kids though. They don't know any better.

God Bless The USA

~*hosebabe87*~ · 09-14-2001, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by theshark8777:
Thats what happens on a board full of kids though. They don't know any better.

God Bless The USA

now I am not saying that I am an adult or completely mature or anything, I'm only 13, but I am sick and tired of people thinking that we "young kids"(which i am, don't get me wrong) don't know the intensity or what happened and what will happen. Just because I'm only 13, people think that they need to explain this all very carefully to me, and that they shouldn't tell me everything that is going on because they think I can't handle it. And I'm not only talking about people on this board, but everyone. Me and other people my age can handle it, and we DON'T want war! who does?!?! and we are DEFINITELY NOT cheering it on! When people say that we are going to kick butt if we go to war, they are only saying that they are cheering for the US and hope that we get through this very soon.

I am sorry if I took this all to far, but I am really annoyed. And I don't want anyone here to think that I am mad at them, because I definitely am not, but people need to realize that we kids are people with feelings too, and that we deserve to know the truth......... God Bless America!

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Kay Scarpetta · 09-14-2001, 03:24 PM

What the heck is a "Jap"??? And no, I am not that young so don't even go there, you CAN explain it.

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DarleneIllyria · 09-14-2001, 04:12 PM

Bootsy, you must be a mind reader. I was reading posts last night and it made me sick to see what some people are posting about the attack.

I wanted to post a topic saying how disgusted I was, but I didn't want to have a million negative comments toward me. Thank you Bootsy for posting this topic.

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Meg07945 · 09-14-2001, 04:21 PM

You know what is worse than the "Jap" comments....now NJ has enough racial profiling, but now they are picking up anyone who look Arab/Middle Eastern. And the US might blacklist a lot of Middle Eastern countries. hmm.. my dad goes on bussiness there a few times a year. Also, an exchange student from last year was looking forward to going to college in the US. If they blacklist Turkey, she won't have the chance. That is just terrible..I can't even begin...my dad says maybe they will give her a student visa, though. I dunno... anyway getting back to the racial profiling, doesn't that just kill you? I cannot stand it. During WW2, the US put Japanese-Americans in camps...isn't this as bad?

Swimfan85 · 09-14-2001, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever:
What the heck is a "Jap"??? And no, I am not that young so don't even go there, you CAN explain it.

it is what some people call jewish american princess, hope that helps a little

and i no i am "young" or w/e im 15 but i can handle what ever is going on but i hate it all, i just wish it would all go away and wished tht this never happened! it is so depressing to think about~ and dont think ya were talking bout me cuz i have not really said much on this topic about the terriorst acts, like i have a few post but when people sterotype people like we are all little kids and dont know what we are talking bout well some of us that is true but other of us do so..but i mean i am not an expert on the topic i mean there is so much information to take in and comprehend but its not like im completely igornent, espically with all i am going thur with knowing lots of people

09-13-2001, 10:48 PM	#1
Bootsy Whoosh Storms abrewin'... Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: The Alpha Quadrant, Sector 001 Posts: 2,104	I am mildy...no, very, disgusted I have been catching up on the board here and I must say, some of the things I am reading are literally making me a little bit sick to my stomach! Things like "someone said the japs did it" or "if there's a war we are gonna kick bootay!" etc. etc. (and I am paraphrasing here...I don't remember who said what and I don't care, because I am not trying to single anyone out here.) But I feel I have to say, we should not be celebrating IF (and I emphasize the "if") we go to war. War is no picnic! We can be patriotic, we can support our troops and our government, we can love the USA, but that is far different from jumping up and down and dancing around the room because we are going to war! My suspicion is that many people posting such things are so young that they have never seen war (just being alive during Desert Storm doesn't count...I am saying some people must be too young to remember it). I remember where I was when Operation Desert Shield was escalated to Desert Storm, and I was only in sixth grade, but it was still a somber moment! I was not jumping up and down saying "go us, we are gonna kick some ass!" Sheesh! I am just getting madder as I write. I am not wanting to come down hard on people, because I suspect some are too young and too immature to realize the full ramifications of what has happened, and I suppose I should not expect you to. I suppose many people here have never had to worry about their family and friends fighting overseas...But...well, I just don't know what to say anymore. I know I have no right to tell anyone how to think, behave, or feel, and this post is not intended to do that. But I at least have a right to voice how I feel, so I suppose that is all I am doing.

09-13-2001, 11:03 PM	#2
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a	That's Ok Bootsy, I understand. I don't like when ppl use the word "japs" either. I must add to this that war is indeed no fun. And whether we want to admit it or not, when and if we do go to war to retaliate, it will make Desert Storm look like a picnic. Believe me, we will all suffer in some respect. [This message has been edited by FOL & DS fan 4ever (edited 09-14-2001).]
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09-14-2001, 01:07 AM	#6
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a	I have edited my message above (again) and I want to follow up on that by asking the following question: Has anyone at this board actually used the word "Jap" in a derogatory manner, or were they just quoting something that someone else said?
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a

09-14-2001, 01:50 AM	#8
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for clearing that up Ags2000. I hate to jump and use the word "racism" or "racist" when the person (whoever that was, it doesn't matter now...) was merely quoting someone else. I should have known that FOL fans are cooler than that!
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a

09-14-2001, 01:57 AM	#9
FOL & DS fan 4ever Guest Posts: n/a	Sidenote: In the above message I said that FOL fans are cooler than that, assuming that whoever the poster was must have been a FOL fan. Sorry if I assumed wrong, but it seems like almost everyone who comes to this Chit-Chat board is a fan of FOL. I'm done for now, and goodnight
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09-13-2001, 11:30 PM	#3
Max Whittaker I want Serenity back Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 30, 2001 Posts: 6,180	Yes Bootsy, I've read some things by some members that I never expected them to say! But I think things are calming down a bit now. I noticed you weren't around for a while. Welcome back. How are you holding up? ------------------ Help others before you help yourself.

09-13-2001, 11:51 PM	#4
Cokies Head Goonie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2000 Location: Benicia, CA USA Posts: 1,719	I know what you mean, Bootsy. I just think it's hard for young people to grasp what happened, just like you said. I'm young, barely sixteen, and I'm still having a hard time comprehending it all. As little as I remember from Desert Storm, I do recall knowing our country was "dealing with some bad guys", as my mother would sum it up for me then. Of course I understand it now, as I do the Oklahoma City Bombing(even more vividly). But this is absolutely horrendous. It's still hard to think that hundreds, to thousands of people have died. Still hard to think that the Twin Towers aren't there anymore. Still hard to understand that someone could be capable of such a thing. Just to think of the hate they must of had for America. They're just so blinded by their own misfortunes...

09-14-2001, 12:39 AM	#5
lesliem14 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Frankfort, KY Posts: 650	Thank you Bootsy for posting this. I'm a World War I history buff and the parallels from what people thought war would be then and what it actually was and a lot of the responses on this board have been one and the same. People celebrated all over Europe when war broke out in 1914, thinking of it as a Romantic conquest, when it became anything but that. Europe hadn't experienced a war in 50 years, much like we haven't experienced a war since Vietnam. As a college student approaching graduation in May, I don't even want to think about my classmates and the crew guys (I'm on women's crew and we do a lot of stuff with the guy's team) being drafted and sent off to war, let alone my coach who is in the Navy Reserve. Too frightening for words and hearing people on this board considering war as a party does not help matters at all. [This message has been edited by lesliem14 (edited 09-14-2001).]

09-14-2001, 08:55 AM	#10
theshark8777 Hats for Bats Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 23, 2001 Location: northeast Ohio. Posts: 5,315	Thats what happens on a board full of kids though. They don't know any better. God Bless The USA

09-14-2001, 03:24 PM	#12
Kay Scarpetta Defy Gravity 8.26.05 Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 04, 2001 Location: La Vie Boheme Posts: 28,013	What the heck is a "Jap"??? And no, I am not that young so don't even go there, you CAN explain it. ------------------ I am Queen Karli Blair Warner, Queen of the Koalas, Bananas, Monkies, CUPCAKES and Insanity and good friends with my fellow Queen, Queen Kaley Jinny Exstead, Co-Queen of the Asparagus Bobs, Pigs, Penguins, Coke, Insanity, and Cows! MUAHAHAHAHA!!!! IM me at: Eastlandgal7988 Lisa Whelchel will always be in my heart as the greatest actress who ever lived And the New York Yankees ROCK! the Boston Red FLOPS SUCK SO MUCH! The Yanks will take the 2001 World Series!!!

09-14-2001, 04:12 PM	#13
DarleneIllyria Gone Forum Star Join Date: Oct 15, 2000 Posts: 19,086	Bootsy, you must be a mind reader. I was reading posts last night and it made me sick to see what some people are posting about the attack. I wanted to post a topic saying how disgusted I was, but I didn't want to have a million negative comments toward me. Thank you Bootsy for posting this topic. ------------------ Hottest Men alive: Dale Midkiff Anthony Starke Tim McGraw Jonathan Crombie Lumpy: Did you go out for anything, Dud? Dudley: Well, I went out for football, but I got my finger stepped on, so my mother made me quit. Eddie: Well listen-- I went out for basketball and I got my hair pulled, and my mother made ME quit. Dudley: It's not that I was afraid of getting hurt or anything; it's just that-- well, it's kind o' hard to play the flute with a busted finger. [Eddie and Lumpy suppress laughter]

09-14-2001, 04:21 PM	#14
Meg07945 Olive!!! Senior Member Join Date: Jan 16, 2001 Location: New Jersey!! The Garden State!! Posts: 1,001	You know what is worse than the "Jap" comments....now NJ has enough racial profiling, but now they are picking up anyone who look Arab/Middle Eastern. And the US might blacklist a lot of Middle Eastern countries. hmm.. my dad goes on bussiness there a few times a year. Also, an exchange student from last year was looking forward to going to college in the US. If they blacklist Turkey, she won't have the chance. That is just terrible..I can't even begin...my dad says maybe they will give her a student visa, though. I dunno... anyway getting back to the racial profiling, doesn't that just kill you? I cannot stand it. During WW2, the US put Japanese-Americans in camps...isn't this as bad?