Is this the Real reason a lot of fans don't like the 2nd Lionel? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TVFactFan · 08-25-2006, 12:51 AM

"TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL?

When the original Lionel was naturally cool?

What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol

PrettyinPink55 · 08-25-2006, 01:42 AM

I liked the first Lionel WAYYYY better! But that's how it always works for me, I guess. I mean, in Bewitched, I preferred the First Darren to the second, and in The Fresh Prince, the First Vivian to the second, etc. I guess it's hard to see somebody else playing that character that you've grown attatched to. But yeah, the second Lionel wasn't as good as the first one.

Mr. Television · 08-25-2006, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyinPink55

I liked the first Lionel WAYYYY better! But that's how it always works for me, I guess. I mean, in Bewitched, I preferred the First Darren to the second, and in The Fresh Prince, the First Vivian to the second, etc. I guess it's hard to see somebody else playing that character that you've grown attatched to. But yeah, the second Lionel wasn't as good as the first one.

Replacements generally suck. I think the only replacement that I can think of that I liked was the second Marilyn Munster.

Wawwie · 08-25-2006, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TVResearcher

"TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL?

When the original Lionel was naturally cool?

What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol

YES!!! Definitely! Second Lionel tried SO hard to be cool, which was actually lame so it made him look like more of a doofis. Original Lionel didn't have to try at all. He was naturally cool like you said. Also, second Lionel could not act.

Chain Gang Member · 08-25-2006, 11:11 AM

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Replacements generally suck. I think the only replacement that I can think of that I liked was the second Marilyn Munster.

I agree

mraw · 08-25-2006, 11:31 AM

I didn't like Lionel period. I know that The Jeffersons was rooted in his initial appearances on All In The Family, but I would have preferred him not being there at all. The first Lionel was militant and arrogant, the second one was nerdy and a pushover. The show flowed better when he wasn't on at all.

TVFactFan · 08-25-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mraw

I didn't like Lionel period. I know that The Jeffersons was rooted in his initial appearances on All In The Family, but I would have preferred him not being there at all. The first Lionel was militant and arrogant, the second one was nerdy and a pushover. The show flowed better when he wasn't on at all.

Did it also flow better when Mother Jefferson wasn't there?

Mrs. Periwinkle · 08-26-2006, 01:06 AM

Yes, I agree. I only watch the episodes with the original Lionel in them. Like you said, the second Lionel tried acting cool, but couldn't pull it off. And, on top of everything else, Mike was WAY better looking than Damon.

Brian Damage · 08-26-2006, 01:58 PM

Lionel #1 was the epitomy of cool. Lionel # 2 was a bit of a dork, but he also wasn't very funny.

PrettyinPink55 · 08-26-2006, 08:58 PM

There was also something about him (second Lionel) I didn't like, I don't know what it was, just something about him. I think it was that he was so different from the first Lionel, and if they were doing a replacement, at least try to get someone similar?

treky · 08-26-2006, 10:01 PM

why'd Mike Evans leave the show temporarily, anyway?

PrettyinPink55 · 08-26-2006, 10:03 PM

I was going to ask why too.

TVFactFan · 08-26-2006, 10:04 PM

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why'd Mike Evans leave the show temporarily, anyway?

He wasn't happy that his role on the show DECREASED and that the Role of Zara Cully INCREASED

treky · 08-26-2006, 10:06 PM

but, why'd he decide to come back?

TVFactFan · 08-26-2006, 10:08 PM

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but, why'd he decide to come back?

Because during the summer of 1979, he ran into Sherman Hemsley and they were talking about the old days and then Sherman asked him did he want to come back and he said yeah and that's when he was added back to the show at the start of the 1979-80 season

08-25-2006, 01:42 AM	#2
PrettyinPink55 Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 24,601	I liked the first Lionel WAYYYY better! But that's how it always works for me, I guess. I mean, in Bewitched, I preferred the First Darren to the second, and in The Fresh Prince, the First Vivian to the second, etc. I guess it's hard to see somebody else playing that character that you've grown attatched to. But yeah, the second Lionel wasn't as good as the first one.
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08-25-2006, 12:51 AM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,062	Is this the Real reason a lot of fans don't like the 2nd Lionel? "TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL? When the original Lionel was naturally cool? What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol

08-25-2006, 11:31 AM	#6
mraw Movin' On Up! Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 343	I didn't like Lionel period. I know that The Jeffersons was rooted in his initial appearances on All In The Family, but I would have preferred him not being there at all. The first Lionel was militant and arrogant, the second one was nerdy and a pushover. The show flowed better when he wasn't on at all.

08-26-2006, 01:06 AM	#8
Mrs. Periwinkle Fan of Classic TV Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 02, 2006 Location: California Posts: 204	Yes, I agree. I only watch the episodes with the original Lionel in them. Like you said, the second Lionel tried acting cool, but couldn't pull it off. And, on top of everything else, Mike was WAY better looking than Damon.

08-26-2006, 08:58 PM	#10
PrettyinPink55 Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 24,601	There was also something about him (second Lionel) I didn't like, I don't know what it was, just something about him. I think it was that he was so different from the first Lionel, and if they were doing a replacement, at least try to get someone similar?

08-26-2006, 10:03 PM	#12
PrettyinPink55 Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 24,601	I was going to ask why too.

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