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Not A News Broadcast · 08-11-2006, 06:56 AM

Forgive me if it's already been mentioned but this one has always intrigued me.I guess it aired between 91-93.All I remember is there were two fires.One in 1974 and one I think in 84 or so.Autopsy results showed that the man who died in 84's fire was also the victim of the 74 fire.It's perplexing and I swear I've seen this episode but have only seen it once.No reruns.Nada.At least I haven't seen any.Love to see this one again.Anyone remember this I hope?

crystaldawn · 08-11-2006, 09:06 AM

Definitely remember that one. His name was Clarence Roberts. Its rerun on Lifetime but not too often.

Dislimb · 08-11-2006, 04:32 PM

Great segment here. One of the weirdest of the weird. I love how every family member and freind has their own theory about that became of Clarence and none of them share the same opinion. Another mystery that will never be solved.

DarkDante · 08-11-2006, 06:10 PM

His sister in law really hated his guts it seems.

wiseguy182 · 08-11-2006, 06:22 PM

To be specific, the years were 1970 and 1980. Some that knew him believe he survived BOTH fires. They seem to be pretty certain that the wife died in the 1980 fire. It was speculated by some that Clarence murdered a vagrant and that was who died in the 1970 fire, although Clarence would have liked people to think it was him who died instead. It might have been hard to tell as the remains were likely charred beyond recognition, making a positive identification more difficult. The wife was thought to have been hiding out a man in the house shortly before the 1980 fire, many believe it was Clarence.

peachysquirt21 · 08-11-2006, 09:37 PM

I been patiently waiting & waiting for them to re air this episode. Hopefully down the road they will.

New Brandon · 08-12-2006, 02:01 AM

My personal theory is he died in the second fire... But the more you think about it, the weirder the story is!

Kane · 08-14-2006, 08:05 PM

There is no way that Clarence Roberts was killed in the first fire. In fact, although the body in the first fire was burned beyond recognition, tests revealed that it didn't share Clarence's blood type.

scotterguy911 · 08-14-2006, 08:25 PM

This was a very interesting story. About 2 years ago, I spoke with a relative of Geneva Roberts. She said that it is now believed that Clarence killed a vagrant and placed him in the first fire in order to make him appear to be dead. Why the first man was ever believed to be Clarence is beyond me because the blood type didn't match! For many years, Geneva hid Clarence, in hopes of getting the insurance money. It was denied due to the lack of positive identification of the body. Of course several years later the two died in another fire. This particular family member felt it wasn't Clarence or Geneva that started it .. she believed it was someone else .. possibly with the family or a friend. Others in the family actually still believe Clarence died in the first fire .. and some believe he still lives today.

DJ_Foxx · 08-15-2006, 11:27 AM

Did Clarence and Geneva have any children? If so, where are they in all of this? Just curious...

scotterguy911 · 08-18-2006, 11:21 PM

No, they did not have children.

haveuseenme · 11-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dislimb

Great segment here. One of the weirdest of the weird. I love how every family member and freind has their own theory about that became of Clarence and none of them share the same opinion. Another mystery that will never be solved.

Oh, it's gonna' be SOLVED alright. I'm working on it as we speak. BTW, I have the video on this one, and the 1st fire was in 1970, the 2nd in 1980. Almost exactly 10 years to the date from the 1st fire. Yes, Clarence and Geneva did have children, and they totally deny that the man whom died in the 1st is not there dad. But, the pathologist proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he is not Clarence, but that Clarence did indeed die in the 2nd fire.

08-11-2006, 06:56 AM	#1
Not A News Broadcast Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 10, 2006 Location: Louisville,KY. Posts: 23	The Man Who Died Twice? Forgive me if it's already been mentioned but this one has always intrigued me.I guess it aired between 91-93.All I remember is there were two fires.One in 1974 and one I think in 84 or so.Autopsy results showed that the man who died in 84's fire was also the victim of the 74 fire.It's perplexing and I swear I've seen this episode but have only seen it once.No reruns.Nada.At least I haven't seen any.Love to see this one again.Anyone remember this I hope?

08-11-2006, 09:06 AM	#2
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Definitely remember that one. His name was Clarence Roberts. Its rerun on Lifetime but not too often.

08-11-2006, 04:32 PM	#3
Dislimb Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2006 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 431	Great segment here. One of the weirdest of the weird. I love how every family member and freind has their own theory about that became of Clarence and none of them share the same opinion. Another mystery that will never be solved.

08-11-2006, 06:10 PM	#4
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	His sister in law really hated his guts it seems.

08-11-2006, 06:22 PM	#5
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	To be specific, the years were 1970 and 1980. Some that knew him believe he survived BOTH fires. They seem to be pretty certain that the wife died in the 1980 fire. It was speculated by some that Clarence murdered a vagrant and that was who died in the 1970 fire, although Clarence would have liked people to think it was him who died instead. It might have been hard to tell as the remains were likely charred beyond recognition, making a positive identification more difficult. The wife was thought to have been hiding out a man in the house shortly before the 1980 fire, many believe it was Clarence.

08-11-2006, 09:37 PM	#6
peachysquirt21 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 27, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 462	I been patiently waiting & waiting for them to re air this episode. Hopefully down the road they will.

08-12-2006, 02:01 AM	#7
New Brandon Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 47	My personal theory is he died in the second fire... But the more you think about it, the weirder the story is!

08-14-2006, 08:05 PM	#8
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	There is no way that Clarence Roberts was killed in the first fire. In fact, although the body in the first fire was burned beyond recognition, tests revealed that it didn't share Clarence's blood type.

08-14-2006, 08:25 PM	#9
scotterguy911 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 17, 2002 Posts: 98	This was a very interesting story. About 2 years ago, I spoke with a relative of Geneva Roberts. She said that it is now believed that Clarence killed a vagrant and placed him in the first fire in order to make him appear to be dead. Why the first man was ever believed to be Clarence is beyond me because the blood type didn't match! For many years, Geneva hid Clarence, in hopes of getting the insurance money. It was denied due to the lack of positive identification of the body. Of course several years later the two died in another fire. This particular family member felt it wasn't Clarence or Geneva that started it .. she believed it was someone else .. possibly with the family or a friend. Others in the family actually still believe Clarence died in the first fire .. and some believe he still lives today.

08-15-2006, 11:27 AM	#10
DJ_Foxx Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 08, 2006 Location: Mississippi Posts: 89	Did Clarence and Geneva have any children? If so, where are they in all of this? Just curious...

08-18-2006, 11:21 PM	#11
scotterguy911 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 17, 2002 Posts: 98	No, they did not have children.