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mphs95 · 08-04-2006, 04:09 PM

I finished watching this on CD's Vol 4 DVD. Paul Freshour was totally railroaded. The sheriff seemed to have it out for him. Having Paul write those letters for handwriting comparision was bogus. I have a theory about this case. Let me know what you think of it.

I think honestly that the bus driver and superintendant were having an affair before the letters started. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

Personally, I think the sister-in-law is the culprit. My theory is this:

SIL found out about the affair, somehow. Perhaps she and the bus driver were cordial, but not friendly. P'Oed because her brother was getting cuckholded, she sent letters threatening her. The sheriff, I think, was involved with the SIL somehow, perhaps even romantically and helped her with the plan. Perhaps the husband knew about the SIL and sheriff. She was his sister after all. When the sheriff called the husband, that was who he was out to confront that night and he was killed to conceal the identity of the sheriff and/or his sister. (Killing a sibiling to play CYA is extreme, but it has been done).

When the BD got the signs put up about her family, it was when the SIL and her husband Paul Freshour were getting a divorce. She would have access to his gun and would know where he would keep it. He didn't keep track of its' location and she would know that. Who else would have something to gain by framing Paul? At the trial, the BD stated she never suspected Paul until the SIL said something in regards that she suspected it was him. Paul has nothing to gain, but his ex-wife does. Getting a divorce, making him look bad would make her look better. Perhaps Paul stepped out on her or something and she framed him to say 'F You'. The sheriff might have helped her bc he had romantic designs on her, or also hated Paul for a particular reason. Remember, Paul got into his face about the husband's death.

I honestly can't think of anyone else who would have a motive to do this, which is a travesty of justice. His trial was a joke.

skunk ape · 08-04-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mphs95

to play CYA

huh???

wiseguy182 · 08-04-2006, 09:24 PM

Yeah, I think Paul Freshour is innocent. Since the letters keeped coming after he was in prison, there doesn't seem to be any way that he's not innocent.

I watched the segment again a couple of nights ago on CD's UM favorites vol 4 (thanks again, CrystalDawn). I would need some more information on the case than what the segment supplied to make a better guess, but my insticts say that the superintendent's wife (who was never mentioned) would be the writer of the letters. Since she would have been one of the two people that was being cheated on, and anybody else wouldn't really have a motive, and the other person that was being cheated on ended up dead, there doesn't seem to be anyone else with a motive other than the superintendent's wife. Unless of course, there are suspects that the segment didn't mention, which is highly possible. The superintendent and the bus driver admitted a relationship, but stated that it occured after the letters. I'm not too sure that that's true. I think there's more info about this case than what was on the segment, but since the segment was already one of the longer ones, they might have had to trim it back some.

BuffaloBill · 08-04-2006, 11:10 PM

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that several people know who the letter writer is , but will never say a peep in lew of what happened to Freshour and his BIL.....now i'm not accussing anyone in particular but "whenever something's rotten , it starts from the top."

kadrmas15 · 08-05-2006, 07:11 AM

This was just a strange case. The husband goes out after a night of drinking because he is pissed and winds up dead. Then the sheriff tried to say the guy killed himself right? Then Paul wound up prison where he served I think 10 years before being released in 1994. The writer sent a letter to UM and even sent letters to Paul in prison being cocky and talking about how they would never get caught and stuff. This was honestly one of the more bizarre cases I have seen. It seems anyone that deals with that bus driver gets screwed over one way or another. Like the guy seen fiddiling around that was in the El-Camino. They never really followed that up it seemed like.

justins5256 · 08-06-2006, 12:40 AM

I too believe Freshour is innocent. For what it's worth, my girlfriend lives about 10 miles from Circleville, and she told me the case is still unsolved, and that the Circleville Writer has apparently been silent for many years now.

Thinman · 08-07-2006, 08:54 AM

You el sickos will pay!

bfreshour · 08-07-2006, 08:38 PM

Hello,
I posted to one of the threads previously but I'm trying to get a copy of this episode. Paul Freshour is my uncle and my father was interviewed for this (but he's not in the episode) but I've never actually seen the segment. I'm trying to get a CD/DVD copy for the family . If anyone cares to copy this for me or direct me to where I can get one that would be great.
Thanks,
Brian Freshour

Thinman · 08-08-2006, 08:57 AM

Welcome Brian. While you're here, would you mind sharing some of your thoughts, ideas, theories, opinions, etc. on the case. You obviously know more than anyone here. Thanks in advance.

greatgarrett2 · 08-08-2006, 07:41 PM

Why would the bus driver and the Superintendant acknowledge an affair after the fact when they know it was a hot topic? That didn't make since to me.

And, Brian, I have The Circleville Letter Writer on VHS if you want it, otherwise you may contact crystaldawn for UM Favorites Volume 4 on DVD if you like. The segment is on Volume 4.

Hope that helps.....

Cheers

kamy · 12-29-2007, 05:07 PM

Okay, this case is a little new to me, so I watched it a couple times. To me, this is the most preposterous case there is! Absolutely ridiculous!!!!

In the beginning, the family sits around and discusses who the writer is, and then the hubby gets a phone call (possibly confirming their suspiscions) and goes after the person and winds up dead. 3 people are still alive who was suspicious of this one person---was this person ever looked into? I find this very odd that he/she is never mentioned, I also find it very odd that no one took part in the segment except Paul Freshour, so the entire segment is Mr. Freshour's side (whom by the way I feel is completely innocent) and here say.

This story almost comes off as a joke because it leaves so many unanswered questions.

Not to mention the bus driver lady and the superintendent admit to an affair, but say it started after the letters started coming. WTF? Why would you even begin an affair when you are getting malicious letter accusing you of one????

This is the most ridiculous case in my mind, so stupid. It's got me all worked up!

Someone mentioned the sister in law being involved. I actually lean towards that idea myself.

Stupid, stupid case.

Sorry

DP1 · 12-30-2007, 01:51 AM

The one thing I remember is they felt the guy in prison was still sending letters even when he was in prison. Was there any way for them to find out about that?

wiseguy182 · 12-30-2007, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DP1

The one thing I remember is they felt the guy in prison was still sending letters even when he was in prison. Was there any way for them to find out about that?

good point. I would imagine it should have been fairly easy to tell if they were coming from the prison or not. That the letters were still coming in as Paul Freshhour was still in prison, makes me think that he's innocent.

Even though this was one of the longer segments, there's still alot of ground they didn't cover.

I don't believe that the bus driver and principal had an affair only after the fact, it's too much to be a coincidence. I believe they had an affair all along.

GaryJ06 · 12-31-2007, 09:30 AM

I agree:
I do think that they would have been able to tell whether or not the letters were coming from prison. Depending on what level of security he was in, they would screen both his outgoing and ingoing mail. If you are in maximum security, which I think he would have been, you basically have no mail privacy rights.
Haven't seen this case in awhile(I'll have to contact CrystalDawn to get DVD's) but I always thought that there was more to it than people were saying. In a small town, someone has to know something that they either won't are aren't willing to talk out of fear. IMO, Freshour was railroaded, and I'm not saying it was the fault of the sherriff, but the handwriting thing always made everything seem a bit shady.
Before throwing anything else out there, I'll watch the case again to refresh my memory lol

Thiussat · 12-31-2007, 07:36 PM

The segment does make it seem like Freshour was railroaded, but the segment left out information that I feel would be pertinent in order to decide for sure.

As I have said in other posts, the segment didn't mention whether or not the letters that continued coming after Paul was in prison were authenticated. Were these letters the work of pranksters or copycats? Some of them had to be, imo, since there was such a huge barrage of them going all over the state.

Also, Paul mentions that he knew a man who had an El Camino like the one seen near the booby trap, but the segment didn't elaborate -- no doubt due to fear of lawsuits. This would obviously be pertinent info as well.

I do know that court transcripts are part of the public record, and it would be nice to be able to obtain the full transcripts of Paul's trial.

08-04-2006, 04:09 PM	#1
mphs95 Remember me? Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 02, 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 790	Circleville Letters I finished watching this on CD's Vol 4 DVD. Paul Freshour was totally railroaded. The sheriff seemed to have it out for him. Having Paul write those letters for handwriting comparision was bogus. I have a theory about this case. Let me know what you think of it. I think honestly that the bus driver and superintendant were having an affair before the letters started. It doesn't make sense otherwise. Personally, I think the sister-in-law is the culprit. My theory is this: SIL found out about the affair, somehow. Perhaps she and the bus driver were cordial, but not friendly. P'Oed because her brother was getting cuckholded, she sent letters threatening her. The sheriff, I think, was involved with the SIL somehow, perhaps even romantically and helped her with the plan. Perhaps the husband knew about the SIL and sheriff. She was his sister after all. When the sheriff called the husband, that was who he was out to confront that night and he was killed to conceal the identity of the sheriff and/or his sister. (Killing a sibiling to play CYA is extreme, but it has been done). When the BD got the signs put up about her family, it was when the SIL and her husband Paul Freshour were getting a divorce. She would have access to his gun and would know where he would keep it. He didn't keep track of its' location and she would know that. Who else would have something to gain by framing Paul? At the trial, the BD stated she never suspected Paul until the SIL said something in regards that she suspected it was him. Paul has nothing to gain, but his ex-wife does. Getting a divorce, making him look bad would make her look better. Perhaps Paul stepped out on her or something and she framed him to say 'F You'. The sheriff might have helped her bc he had romantic designs on her, or also hated Paul for a particular reason. Remember, Paul got into his face about the husband's death. I honestly can't think of anyone else who would have a motive to do this, which is a travesty of justice. His trial was a joke.

08-08-2006, 07:41 PM	#10
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12-29-2007, 05:07 PM	#11
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	What??? Okay, this case is a little new to me, so I watched it a couple times. To me, this is the most preposterous case there is! Absolutely ridiculous!!!! In the beginning, the family sits around and discusses who the writer is, and then the hubby gets a phone call (possibly confirming their suspiscions) and goes after the person and winds up dead. 3 people are still alive who was suspicious of this one person---was this person ever looked into? I find this very odd that he/she is never mentioned, I also find it very odd that no one took part in the segment except Paul Freshour, so the entire segment is Mr. Freshour's side (whom by the way I feel is completely innocent) and here say. This story almost comes off as a joke because it leaves so many unanswered questions. Not to mention the bus driver lady and the superintendent admit to an affair, but say it started after the letters started coming. WTF? Why would you even begin an affair when you are getting malicious letter accusing you of one???? This is the most ridiculous case in my mind, so stupid. It's got me all worked up! Someone mentioned the sister in law being involved. I actually lean towards that idea myself. Stupid, stupid case. Sorry

08-04-2006, 09:24 PM	#3
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Yeah, I think Paul Freshour is innocent. Since the letters keeped coming after he was in prison, there doesn't seem to be any way that he's not innocent. I watched the segment again a couple of nights ago on CD's UM favorites vol 4 (thanks again, CrystalDawn). I would need some more information on the case than what the segment supplied to make a better guess, but my insticts say that the superintendent's wife (who was never mentioned) would be the writer of the letters. Since she would have been one of the two people that was being cheated on, and anybody else wouldn't really have a motive, and the other person that was being cheated on ended up dead, there doesn't seem to be anyone else with a motive other than the superintendent's wife. Unless of course, there are suspects that the segment didn't mention, which is highly possible. The superintendent and the bus driver admitted a relationship, but stated that it occured after the letters. I'm not too sure that that's true. I think there's more info about this case than what was on the segment, but since the segment was already one of the longer ones, they might have had to trim it back some.

08-04-2006, 11:10 PM	#4
BuffaloBill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 07, 2004 Location: Cheektowaga(Buffalo),NY Posts: 431	There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that several people know who the letter writer is , but will never say a peep in lew of what happened to Freshour and his BIL.....now i'm not accussing anyone in particular but "whenever something's rotten , it starts from the top."

08-05-2006, 07:11 AM	#5
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	This was just a strange case. The husband goes out after a night of drinking because he is pissed and winds up dead. Then the sheriff tried to say the guy killed himself right? Then Paul wound up prison where he served I think 10 years before being released in 1994. The writer sent a letter to UM and even sent letters to Paul in prison being cocky and talking about how they would never get caught and stuff. This was honestly one of the more bizarre cases I have seen. It seems anyone that deals with that bus driver gets screwed over one way or another. Like the guy seen fiddiling around that was in the El-Camino. They never really followed that up it seemed like.

08-06-2006, 12:40 AM	#6
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	I too believe Freshour is innocent. For what it's worth, my girlfriend lives about 10 miles from Circleville, and she told me the case is still unsolved, and that the Circleville Writer has apparently been silent for many years now.

08-07-2006, 08:54 AM	#7
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	You el sickos will pay!

08-07-2006, 08:38 PM	#8
bfreshour Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jun 09, 2006 Posts: 2	Hello, I posted to one of the threads previously but I'm trying to get a copy of this episode. Paul Freshour is my uncle and my father was interviewed for this (but he's not in the episode) but I've never actually seen the segment. I'm trying to get a CD/DVD copy for the family . If anyone cares to copy this for me or direct me to where I can get one that would be great. Thanks, Brian Freshour

08-08-2006, 08:57 AM	#9
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	Welcome Brian. While you're here, would you mind sharing some of your thoughts, ideas, theories, opinions, etc. on the case. You obviously know more than anyone here. Thanks in advance.

12-30-2007, 01:51 AM	#12
DP1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 21, 2004 Posts: 394	The one thing I remember is they felt the guy in prison was still sending letters even when he was in prison. Was there any way for them to find out about that?

12-31-2007, 09:30 AM	#14
GaryJ06 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 28, 2007 Posts: 77	I agree: I do think that they would have been able to tell whether or not the letters were coming from prison. Depending on what level of security he was in, they would screen both his outgoing and ingoing mail. If you are in maximum security, which I think he would have been, you basically have no mail privacy rights. Haven't seen this case in awhile(I'll have to contact CrystalDawn to get DVD's) but I always thought that there was more to it than people were saying. In a small town, someone has to know something that they either won't are aren't willing to talk out of fear. IMO, Freshour was railroaded, and I'm not saying it was the fault of the sherriff, but the handwriting thing always made everything seem a bit shady. Before throwing anything else out there, I'll watch the case again to refresh my memory lol

12-31-2007, 07:36 PM	#15
Thiussat Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2007 Posts: 601	The segment does make it seem like Freshour was railroaded, but the segment left out information that I feel would be pertinent in order to decide for sure. As I have said in other posts, the segment didn't mention whether or not the letters that continued coming after Paul was in prison were authenticated. Were these letters the work of pranksters or copycats? Some of them had to be, imo, since there was such a huge barrage of them going all over the state. Also, Paul mentions that he knew a man who had an El Camino like the one seen near the booby trap, but the segment didn't elaborate -- no doubt due to fear of lawsuits. This would obviously be pertinent info as well. I do know that court transcripts are part of the public record, and it would be nice to be able to obtain the full transcripts of Paul's trial.