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Ireneparalegal · 08-02-2006, 02:20 AM

Women Charged With Killing Homeless for Insurance
By ROBERT JABLON, AP

LOS ANGELES (Aug. 1) - Two women in their 70s were charged Monday with having homeless men killed in hit-and-run car crashes to collect more than $2 million in life insurance.

Los Angeles Police Department / AP
Helen Golay, 75, and Olga Rutterschmidt, 73, are charged with two murders, but police say there may be more victims.

Olga Rutterschmidt, 73, and Helen Golay, 75, were each charged with two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder for financial gain.

The charges make the women eligible for the death penalty. Prosecutors will wait until the case moves closer to trial before deciding whether to seek executions, Deputy District Attorney Shellie Samuels said in a statement.

The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown. Paul Vados, 73, was killed in November 1999 and Kenneth McDavid, 51, was killed in June 2005.

The women were arrested in May and initially charged with federal mail fraud. They are awaiting an October trial on those charges, but in light of the murder allegations authorities are considering dropping the fraud counts for now, said U.S. attorney spokesman Thom Mrozek. He added that those charges could be refiled later.

The women befriended the transients, paid for them to stay in apartments and obtained their signatures before taking out three dozen life insurance policies on them, authorities say.

They had them killed and then collected while falsely claiming to be relatives, according to the complaint.

Some insurers found the circumstances suspicious and refused to pay.

An investigation began last year when police looking into McDavid's death found similarities to the Vados case, authorities said. Blood was found in a car Golay reportedly had towed from near where McDavid was killed.

"I plan on handling the case and winning because there was no murder and there is no evidence of murder," Golay's attorney, Roger Jon Diamond, said Monday.

Rutterschmidt had not immediately obtained an attorney for the state charges, officials said.

The investigation was continuing.

"Investigators are still looking into the possibility that other victims may also have fallen prey to these women," said Kevin Maiberger, a Los Angeles police spokesman.

The women cannot be arraigned on the murder charges until they are transferred from federal to state custody.

80sTrivia · 08-02-2006, 06:00 AM

This sounds like an updated version of Arsenic and Old Lace...

MsOrange · 08-02-2006, 06:40 AM

they really do look like two old evil ladies

Cactus Jack · 08-02-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MsOrange

they really do look like two old evil ladies

Espcialyl taht second one

Cactus Jack · 08-02-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsOrange

they really do look like two old evil ladies

Espcialyl taht second one

Cactus Jack · 08-02-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MsOrange

they really do look like two old evil ladies

Espcialyl taht second one

Ireneparalegal · 08-02-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Jack

Espcialyl taht second one

is there an echo in here??? LMAO!!!!!!

Some people are just scandalous...killing homeless men for $$$...they BETTER GET THE DEATH PENALTY!

Janice · 08-02-2006, 07:21 PM

This case, like those women, is just sick. Their poor victims.

Courtnee · 08-02-2006, 08:03 PM

hno: What the hell is wrong with some people?

MsOrange · 08-02-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cactus Jack

Espcialyl taht second one

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i'm sorry, i didn't catch that, what did you say?

08-02-2006, 02:20 AM	#1
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Two Elderly Women Kill Homeless Men for Insurance $$$ Women Charged With Killing Homeless for Insurance By ROBERT JABLON, AP LOS ANGELES (Aug. 1) - Two women in their 70s were charged Monday with having homeless men killed in hit-and-run car crashes to collect more than $2 million in life insurance. Los Angeles Police Department / AP Helen Golay, 75, and Olga Rutterschmidt, 73, are charged with two murders, but police say there may be more victims. Olga Rutterschmidt, 73, and Helen Golay, 75, were each charged with two counts of murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder for financial gain. The charges make the women eligible for the death penalty. Prosecutors will wait until the case moves closer to trial before deciding whether to seek executions, Deputy District Attorney Shellie Samuels said in a statement. The women are accused of arranging hit-and-run killings in alleys using drivers whose identities are unknown. Paul Vados, 73, was killed in November 1999 and Kenneth McDavid, 51, was killed in June 2005. The women were arrested in May and initially charged with federal mail fraud. They are awaiting an October trial on those charges, but in light of the murder allegations authorities are considering dropping the fraud counts for now, said U.S. attorney spokesman Thom Mrozek. He added that those charges could be refiled later. The women befriended the transients, paid for them to stay in apartments and obtained their signatures before taking out three dozen life insurance policies on them, authorities say. They had them killed and then collected while falsely claiming to be relatives, according to the complaint. Some insurers found the circumstances suspicious and refused to pay. An investigation began last year when police looking into McDavid's death found similarities to the Vados case, authorities said. Blood was found in a car Golay reportedly had towed from near where McDavid was killed. "I plan on handling the case and winning because there was no murder and there is no evidence of murder," Golay's attorney, Roger Jon Diamond, said Monday. Rutterschmidt had not immediately obtained an attorney for the state charges, officials said. The investigation was continuing. "Investigators are still looking into the possibility that other victims may also have fallen prey to these women," said Kevin Maiberger, a Los Angeles police spokesman. The women cannot be arraigned on the murder charges until they are transferred from federal to state custody. Attached Images
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08-02-2006, 06:00 AM	#2
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08-02-2006, 06:40 AM	#3
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08-02-2006, 07:21 PM	#8
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	This case, like those women, is just sick. Their poor victims.