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TVFactFan · 07-28-2006, 12:27 PM

Why was she even in the opening credits? She had the smallest role on the show and was barley seen. She was the only one on the show that added no humor. She was defintely STUCK OUT like a Sore Thumb. They should have just had Ed Norton as a Bachelor who came to visit his Buddy Ralph since that's how it seemed anyway since you never saw TRIXIE.

T-Greg · 07-28-2006, 01:05 PM

You're right that she really did not add much to the show, but I have to say that Norton really needed to have a wife. Many of the schemes and jokes were aimed at trying to outwit the wives. Everytime Ralph mentioned something about Alice, if Norton was a bachelor, what would he say? "If I was married like you..."?

gilligan fanatic · 07-28-2006, 01:38 PM

I think she was needed because Alice taked to her in a lot of the opening scenes before Ralph walks in, it would look stupid to see her talking to herself. Also we learn about a lot of the plots from Alice telling Trixie something that Ralph and Ed don't know.

VIDEOWACK · 07-28-2006, 02:57 PM

As small as the role may have been I think Trixie was definitely a needed character. Don't forget, in the 1950's we looked for and mostly expected to see married couples on TV sitcoms. There would have been an imbalance if there had only been 3. I believe the writers did the right thing though in keeping her part small. It's like, you knew she was around, but it wasn't necessary to see her all the time. Kinda like putting just the right amount of seasoning on a steak without killing it!

T-Greg · 07-28-2006, 03:36 PM

I imagine that if The Honeymooners was done today (not like the stupid movie), a character like Carlos Sanchez would fit the perfect stereotypical homosexual: I bachelor at his age who was also a dance instructor. That way, Ralph and Norton wouldn't have to worry about their wives spending too much time with him.

Bill S. · 07-29-2006, 05:24 AM

She did have a small role, but the show wouldn't have been the same without her.

TVFactFan · 07-29-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill S.

She did have a small role, but the show wouldn't have been the same without her.

How so if the 85% of the eps focused on Ed, ralph and Alice?

Brian Damage · 07-29-2006, 01:43 PM

Trixie was kind of useless in a way. (No offense to Trixie fans intended.) They should of had that character actor in the credits. The guy who played almost every role. I forget his name.

TVFactFan · 07-29-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Trixie was kind of useless in a way. (No offense to Trixie fans intended.) They should of had that character actor in the credits. The guy who played almost every role. I forget his name.

Trixie was kind of like a

Ralph on the Jeffersons
Wanda on Good Times
Rob on What's Happening
Mike the Bartender on Three's Company

LOL

gilligan fanatic · 07-29-2006, 07:43 PM

also ones like Vacation at Fred's Landing. Wouldn't it have been stupid for Ed to go on a trip with Alice and Ralph.

Bill S. · 07-29-2006, 07:58 PM

There are some Classic 39 episodes where she is needed though. For example, take Trixie out of "Something Fishy," and you eliminate most of the funny parts. Take her out of "The Safety Award," and the whole same dress/jacket thing is no longer there (which, to me, was the funniest scene in the episode.) Also, let's not forget, in "The Sleepwalker," if it wasn't for Trixie, Ralph never would've had to go upstairs and watch Norton.

Buffyboy323 · 07-31-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by VIDEOWACK

As small as the role may have been I think Trixie was definitely a needed character. Don't forget, in the 1950's we looked for and mostly expected to see married couples on TV sitcoms. There would have been an imbalance if there had only been 3. I believe the writers did the right thing though in keeping her part small. It's like, you knew she was around, but it wasn't necessary to see her all the time. Kinda like putting just the right amount of seasoning on a steak without killing it!

I agree completely.

TV Knowledge Fan · 08-02-2006, 01:56 PM

...as far as being a part of every "Honeymooners" sketch, whether she appeared or not. There HAD to be a "battle of the sexes" {Ralph & Ed vs. Alice & Trixie} episode once or twice a season. Alice HAD to have somebody to confide in and talk to before the body of the story unfolded. Would "Hello, Mom" be different if there wasn't a disagreement between Ed & Trixie over Ralph staying in their apartment, leading to THEIR big fight as well?

YES. Trixie Norton earned the right to be a continuing character long ago, as far as I'm concerned!

TVFactFan · 08-02-2006, 05:43 PM

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...as far as being a part of every "Honeymooners" sketch, whether she appeared or not. There HAD to be a "battle of the sexes" {Ralph & Ed vs. Alice & Trixie} episode once or twice a season. Alice HAD to have somebody to confide in and talk to before the body of the story unfolded. Would "Hello, Mom" be different if there wasn't a disagreement between Ed & Trixie over Ralph staying in their apartment, leading to THEIR big fight as well?

YES. Trixie Norton earned the right to be a continuing character long ago, as far as I'm concerned!

But it was a Cast of 4 with her being the only one who was not FUNNY. Alice could have just had a OFF SCREEN girlfriend-lol

Buffyboy323 · 08-03-2006, 04:51 AM

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But it was a Cast of 4 with her being the only one who was not FUNNY. Alice could have just had a OFF SCREEN girlfriend-lol

If so, we never would have heard all those times, "Aaalice,...Aaaaalice"

07-28-2006, 12:27 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,067	It's clear that TRIXIE was not needed on this show Why was she even in the opening credits? She had the smallest role on the show and was barley seen. She was the only one on the show that added no humor. She was defintely STUCK OUT like a Sore Thumb. They should have just had Ed Norton as a Bachelor who came to visit his Buddy Ralph since that's how it seemed anyway since you never saw TRIXIE.

07-28-2006, 01:38 PM	#3
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07-28-2006, 02:57 PM	#4
VIDEOWACK Member Eternal Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 30, 2003 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 339	As small as the role may have been I think Trixie was definitely a needed character. Don't forget, in the 1950's we looked for and mostly expected to see married couples on TV sitcoms. There would have been an imbalance if there had only been 3. I believe the writers did the right thing though in keeping her part small. It's like, you knew she was around, but it wasn't necessary to see her all the time. Kinda like putting just the right amount of seasoning on a steak without killing it!
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07-29-2006, 01:43 PM	#8
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Trixie was kind of useless in a way. (No offense to Trixie fans intended.) They should of had that character actor in the credits. The guy who played almost every role. I forget his name.
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08-02-2006, 01:56 PM	#13
TV Knowledge Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 29, 2006 Location: Long Branch, N.J. Posts: 2,577	Trixie WAS important... ...as far as being a part of every "Honeymooners" sketch, whether she appeared or not. There HAD to be a "battle of the sexes" {Ralph & Ed vs. Alice & Trixie} episode once or twice a season. Alice HAD to have somebody to confide in and talk to before the body of the story unfolded. Would "Hello, Mom" be different if there wasn't a disagreement between Ed & Trixie over Ralph staying in their apartment, leading to THEIR big fight as well? YES. Trixie Norton earned the right to be a continuing character long ago, as far as I'm concerned!

07-28-2006, 01:05 PM	#2
T-Greg Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 17, 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,711	You're right that she really did not add much to the show, but I have to say that Norton really needed to have a wife. Many of the schemes and jokes were aimed at trying to outwit the wives. Everytime Ralph mentioned something about Alice, if Norton was a bachelor, what would he say? "If I was married like you..."?

07-28-2006, 03:36 PM	#5
T-Greg Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 17, 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,711	I imagine that if The Honeymooners was done today (not like the stupid movie), a character like Carlos Sanchez would fit the perfect stereotypical homosexual: I bachelor at his age who was also a dance instructor. That way, Ralph and Norton wouldn't have to worry about their wives spending too much time with him.

07-29-2006, 05:24 AM	#6
Bill S. Member Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2003 Posts: 1,112	She did have a small role, but the show wouldn't have been the same without her.

07-29-2006, 07:43 PM	#10
gilligan fanatic Born to Be Bad Forum Fanatic Join Date: May 06, 2001 Location: down by the Lagoon Posts: 9,954	also ones like Vacation at Fred's Landing. Wouldn't it have been stupid for Ed to go on a trip with Alice and Ralph.

07-29-2006, 07:58 PM	#11
Bill S. Member Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2003 Posts: 1,112	There are some Classic 39 episodes where she is needed though. For example, take Trixie out of "Something Fishy," and you eliminate most of the funny parts. Take her out of "The Safety Award," and the whole same dress/jacket thing is no longer there (which, to me, was the funniest scene in the episode.) Also, let's not forget, in "The Sleepwalker," if it wasn't for Trixie, Ralph never would've had to go upstairs and watch Norton.