Doe Network cases that would have made great UM segments

[unsolved88]

I like to visit the Doe Network page regularly. I've listed links to cases that I believe would have made really interesting segments on UM.

http://doenetwork.us/cases/1ufny.html
http://doenetwork.us/cases/81ufar.html
http://doenetwork.us/cases/447ufpa.html
http://doenetwork.us/cases/485ufpa.html

Are there any others from the Doe Network you guys think would have made good UM cases?

[Kane]

Originally Posted by unsolved88

Are there any others from the Doe Network you guys think would have made good UM cases?

Yes, Virginia C. Douglas. In fact, I once wrote to UM, and suggested that case (but to no avail).

http://doenetwork.us/cases/482dfme.html

Virginia lived in Lexington, MA, which is near my hometown. In 1988, she allegedly disappeared from a shopping center in Belfast, Maine while on a trip with her husband Frank Douglas Sr. However, some investigators doubted Frank's story, believing that Virgninia didn't vanish from Maine at all. Instead, they believe she was murdered in her Lexington home, and then buried.

Frank, who is now deceased, denied having any involvement in Virginia's disappearance. But two of his kids believed he was involved, and refused to speak to him.

The Charley Project profile has more details on the case than the Doe Network profile. I recommend checking it out.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._virginia.html

[rerungirl]

Interesting thread! Doe Network Case # 90UFTX. Young woman who died as the result of a hit and run accident while riding her bicycle in Houston, TX. Twenty-two years later she still hasn't been identified.

[Beardsley_Mantooth]

I find the Virginia Douglas case to be extremely interesting and it would have made a great segment for UM. None of the circumstances of her case make any sense what so ever, but I suppose that's one of the reasons its so fascinating. I don't see any obvious motives for her husband to kill her and yet his story is shaky at best, and rather ridiculous at worst. Sadly with his passing the facts of this case may be lost forever and we will probably never know the true story. However his property must now be in someones control (children perhaps?), it might be possible now to get permission to dig on the property and find out if indeed her remains are there as is suspected.

Anyway after reading this thread I got a chance to poke around the doe network and the charley project and came across some rather intriguing cases that would have been good candidates for UM . Perhaps these have already been shown but to the best of my recollection I've never seen them.

Cathy Marie Moulton:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/20dfme.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ton_cathy.html

Laureen Ann Rahn:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/204dfnh.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rahn_laureen.html

Im sure these next two have been mentioned or discussed on the site before but they are so strange that I thought I'd post them here because quite frankly they would have been perfect for UM. Were these two girls perhaps a victim of the River Valley killer? Or is it just an odd coincidence that both disappeared at roughly the same time, only 90 miles apart under almost the exact same circumstances? Very very strange.

Maura Murray:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/murray_maura.html

Brianna Maitland:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...d_brianna.html

[ddelta]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...catherine.html

This case has always fascinated me, especially for the fact that she was at her prom and disappeared and the fact that two other people disappeared (and later found dead) from the same place where she disappeared from.

[DarkDante]

There are a TON Of cases on "Doe Network" or "Charley Project" that would have made great UM cases including a lot from the 70s-early 80s. These cases may have been deemed too cold however to warrant UM profiling them as UM usually stayed pretty current with the cases they profiled (within the past three years)

One case that has always bothered me is the case of "Princess Doe" found here

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/36ufnj.html

She was found dead in a wooded area in New Jersey in July of 1982. Some believe she may be a runaway by the name of Diane Dye but conclusive identification to whether "Princess Doe" is indeed Ms. Dye or any other missing person has eluded authorities for over twenty years now.

Diane Genice Dye disappeared from California in 1979 and is suspected to have been a runaway.

Her profile can be found here:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dye_diane.html

[unsolved88]

Just found two more. Even though they're from England, they'd still be perfect for UM.

http://doenetwork.us/cases/541dfuk.html
http://doenetwork.us/cases/1466dfuk.html

[skunk ape]

I wonder why they haven't attempted to match Diane Dye's DNA with the body found in Jersey. The pics of the two look uncanny.

[Kane]

Originally Posted by DarkDante

There are a TON Of cases on "Doe Network" or "Charley Project" that would have made great UM cases including a lot from the 70s-early 80s. These cases may have been deemed too cold however to warrant UM profiling them as UM usually stayed pretty current with the cases they profiled (within the past three years)

I would question the idea that such cases would have been "too cold" to be given exposure on UM. Maybe the show did pass on cases that they considered "too old", but there were often times when they profiled cases that were much older than the ones they might have rejected as "too old." Either someone was trying to have it both ways, or there was a flip-flopper managing the show.

Even during the last two seasons in production, UM had its share of new segments involving decades-old cases. One such example is the elusive California serial killer who started off as a rapist before becoming a serial killer in 1979 (he's known as "The Original Night Stalker", since his killings predated Night Stalker killer Richard Ramirez). That segment was first shown in 2002, two decades after his crimes.

[kadrmas15]

Yes indeed, UM profiled lots of cases that had happened many many years before. The disapperance of Clifford Sherwood, the murder of Larry Dickens, as Kane said the Zodiac Killer, the murder of Bugsy Siegel. There were several. Yes a lot of them were fairly recent within 3 years, however some cases from decades earlier were shown.

[Dislimb]

Originally Posted by DarkDante

There are a TON Of cases on "Doe Network" or "Charley Project" that would have made great UM cases including a lot from the 70s-early 80s. These cases may have been deemed too cold however to warrant UM profiling them as UM usually stayed pretty current with the cases they profiled (within the past three years)

One case that has always bothered me is the case of "Princess Doe" found here

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/36ufnj.html

She was found dead in a wooded area in New Jersey in July of 1982. Some believe she may be a runaway by the name of Diane Dye but conclusive identification to whether "Princess Doe" is indeed Ms. Dye or any other missing person has eluded authorities for over twenty years now.

Diane Genice Dye disappeared from California in 1979 and is suspected to have been a runaway.

Her profile can be found here:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dye_diane.html

Wow, just wow.

[DarkDante]

Originally Posted by Kane

I would question the idea that such cases would have been "too cold" to be given exposure on UM. Maybe the show did pass on cases that they considered "too old", but there were often times when they profiled cases that were much older than the ones they might have rejected as "too old." Either someone was trying to have it both ways, or there was a flip-flopper managing the show.

Even during the last two seasons in production, UM had its share of new segments involving decades-old cases. One such example is the elusive California serial killer who started off as a rapist before becoming a serial killer in 1979 (he's known as "The Original Night Stalker", since his killings predated Night Stalker killer Richard Ramirez). That segment was first shown in 2002, two decades after his crimes.

Good point Kane, I do agree that perhaps "too old" might have been a better way of putting it. Its just there are a lot of cases on the DOE NETWORK and CHARLEY PROJECT that are from the 70s or early 80s that are so tragic and not only would they make great UM viewing but maybe some of these folks could have been helped out.

Judy Hymes is a good example of an older case that was brought back into the forefront first by the mysterious phone calls from Omaha, Nebraska and then by UM profiling it on a national level. It actually brought the case to some type of resolution. I have to wonder though in the cases of some of the missing teens who disappeared say in 1972 or 1974, if there is anyone even looking for them anymore. I'd like to think there are but the further back you look on the DOE NETWORK you start getting messages such as "Very little information is known about his/her case"

Still I dunno if TJ or Crystaldawn are listening maybe a sub-board can be set up where we can discuss some of these DOE NETWORK cases which weren't profiled on UM. It would bring a refreshing change to the board as a great deal of the other cases (such as Kurt Sova) have been discussed from every possible angle and I personally would like to see what some of the sleuths around here have to say about some of these other cases.

Just a thought

[NDAlum2003]

I think the Jacob Wetterling or Mark Himebaugh cases would have been great cases for UM.

[Beardsley_Mantooth]

I agree DarkDante, a sub forum where we could discuss cases not profiled on UM would be a very good idea. I havent been here long but the one thing I have realized is that evey UM case has been discussed to extraordinary lengths and maybe its time to let this community dig into other cases that are too new to have been shown or were just never shown at all. It would be in the spirit of the show to keep discussing cases they couldnt profile as well as maybe bringing attention to cases others might have answers to but not know about.

Anyway I found a pretty interesting link on the charley project that I thought I would share, I dont know if this was profiled as it happened in 2003 but its pretty dern interesting to say the least.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/padilla_ben.html

[skunk ape]

Originally Posted by Beardsley_Mantooth

I agree DarkDante, a sub forum where we could discuss cases not profiled on UM would be a very good idea. I havent been here long but the one thing I have realized is that evey UM case has been discussed to extraordinary lengths and maybe its time to let this community dig into other cases that are too new to have been shown or were just never shown at all. It would be in the spirit of the show to keep discussing cases they couldnt profile as well as maybe bringing attention to cases others might have answers to but not know about.

I agree, this sounds like a fantastic idea.

That Ben Padilla case sounds like a terrorist hijacking to me. I wonder where they could have hidden the plane? It's not something you can just park inside a garage. You would need a huge warehouse or a hangar. Very strange. Maybe Bin Laden found a good hiding place for it in a cave somewhere.