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KristinHerreraFan · 07-20-2006, 10:46 AM

Did any of you guys especially like Season 5? With all the new characters? I liked it, however I liked Seasons 1-4 better because Sandra was my favorite character. Did any of you guys like Season 5 as much as you liked Seasons 1-4 ?

Scoobiedoo30 · 07-20-2006, 11:21 AM

Yes I liked 227 when Sandra left The Show

GSU2004 · 07-20-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinHerreraFan

Did any of you guys especially like Season 5? With all the new characters? I liked it, however I liked Seasons 1-4 better because Sandra was my favorite character. Did any of you guys like Season 5 as much as you liked Seasons 1-4 ?

Saundra was a main character and if you notice they had to make up for her by adding several new characters in the last season. I think the dialogue between her and Mary was classic. They tried to emulate it with Julian but it didn't work.

Brian Damage · 07-20-2006, 04:42 PM

Sandra was 227.

Adamantium · 07-20-2006, 06:22 PM

I had no idea Sandra ever left the show! I used to watch the show when it was new (my favorite episode is the Pee-wee Herman one). I bought the DVD, but couldn't get back into the show again.

But I can imagine it wouldn't be as good without her.

JuicyCoutureGirl · 08-11-2006, 11:23 PM

Heck no! The show was god awful, they had to add four goofballs to fill Jackee's shoes(Paul Winfred, hell, I got to give it to him, he's a gifted actor but to join 227, what was he THINKING?)

The sex appeal was gone, that's why most people watched the show after Sandra Clark left(i.e: Jackee's ego was too big, she thought she didn't need the show, boy was she wrong....). Dylan the corny teacher(how in the world they let this doofus in a school is beyond me), Travis the closet homosexual breakdancer with the greasy four years behind jerri curl(nothing wrong with homosexuals considering that i'm bi), and Eva the dumb blonde weaved baby voice loser who couldn't hold a job didn't fit the mold of this show.

(BTW: Is it just me or did the producers try to make Alania Reed Hall a sex symbol after Jackee left..ex: the long reddish hair and some of the outfits she wore from frumpy Rose to Gypsy Rose Lee.)

Mrgman · 08-24-2006, 03:19 PM

I liked it after sandra left. I liked Travis one of the people that joined later

88survivor · 09-01-2006, 08:19 AM

One thing I didn't like was there was no conclusion. That's all.

KristinHerreraFan · 12-07-2006, 10:58 PM

Don't you guys find it odd that of the 7 of the 24 season 5 episodes Sandra was in just HAD to be shown towards the beginning of the season?? It's like they wanted to rush her character through the beginning of the season so they could write her off the show. One of the reasons why Season 5 was low in the ratings was because of lack of Sandra, if they had spread those 7 episodes she was in throughout the season, and not just shuffle them in the beginning, maybe it wouldn't have sucked so bad. But NOOOO, they had to be shown quick!

Another thing that bothered me is that her character was absent with no resolution. Her last episode was "The Perfume Game" which was the one when she works for the agency place and the guy steals her idea. After that episode, her name is never said again nor is the explanation of her sudden dissappearance shown. Which is VERRRRRYYYY un-realistic because Sandra ALWAYS visited Mary's apartment! And what? Just out of the blue she's gonna stop?

GSU2004 · 12-08-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinHerreraFan

Don't you guys find it odd that of the 7 of the 24 season 5 episodes Sandra was in just HAD to be shown towards the beginning of the season?? It's like they wanted to rush her character through the beginning of the season so they could write her off the show. One of the reasons why Season 5 was low in the ratings was because of lack of Sandra, if they had spread those 7 episodes she was in throughout the season, and not just shuffle them in the beginning, maybe it wouldn't have sucked so bad. But NOOOO, they had to be shown quick!

Another thing that bothered me is that her character was absent with no resolution. Her last episode was "The Perfume Game" which was the one when she works for the agency place and the guy steals her idea. After that episode, her name is never said again nor is the explanation of her sudden dissappearance shown. Which is VERRRRRYYYY un-realistic because Sandra ALWAYS visited Mary's apartment! And what? Just out of the blue she's gonna stop?

That is a good catch but I think with the Jackee-Marla Gibbs fall out at the time, the producers probably thought it was best just to have Jackee in enough episodes so she get paid off the syndication royalties while keeping Marla Gibbs happy. Marla played a big role in the direction and focus of the show.

88survivor · 12-10-2006, 03:42 PM

After that, the show went downhill.

KristinHerreraFan · 12-10-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GSU2004

That is a good catch but I think with the Jackee-Marla Gibbs fall out at the time, the producers probably thought it was best just to have Jackee in enough episodes so she get paid off the syndication royalties while keeping Marla Gibbs happy. Marla played a big role in the direction and focus of the show.

Could you explain that in a way a 5 year old would understand please? I don't really understand.

GSU2004 · 12-11-2006, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KristinHerreraFan

Could you explain that in a way a 5 year old would understand please? I don't really understand.

By contract, actors have to appear in at least 100 episodes of a show to get royalities from syndication. Sometimes, if you have a good lawyer, you can work it out for less episodes or if the show is quickly cancelled, you can get royalities for reruns. If you remember, Jackee thought she was hot at the time and everyone wanted to have her. In various interviews years after the cancellation and to hype up Sister, Sister; Jackee told people how she let her ego get out of control during the 227 days (wanting her name to be the first on the opening credits, more storylines focused on her, etc).

Of course, Marla Gibbs (executive consultant and story editor for the show) and the producers were not having it, she wanted out. Hence, giving her seven episodes and letting her leave.

KristinHerreraFan · 12-11-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GSU2004

By contract, actors have to appear in at least 100 episodes of a show to get royalities from syndication. Sometimes, if you have a good lawyer, you can work it out for less episodes or if the show is quickly cancelled, you can get royalities for reruns. If you remember, Jackee thought she was hot at the time and everyone wanted to have her. In various interviews years after the cancellation and to hype up Sister, Sister; Jackee told people how she let her ego get out of control during the 227 days (wanting her name to be the first on the opening credits, more storylines focused on her, etc).

Of course, Marla Gibbs (executive consultant and story editor for the show) and the producers were not having it, she wanted out. Hence, giving her seven episodes and letting her leave.

I understand that now but I still don't like that they wrote her off with no resolution, cos in season 5, eventhough she wasn't in every episode, she was still living in 227 and visiting Mary's apartment like she always does, but all of a sudden after "The Perfume Game", shes gone, never visits the Jenkins' apartment and they so no reason why she is suddenly gone and they also never say her name ever again after that episode!!

Very unrealistic. They could have at least have Rose say "Sandra moved to Maryland with her new Rich Husband" or something like that.

Scoobiedoo30 · 12-22-2006, 02:25 PM

Sandra did make a Guest Staring role on 227

07-20-2006, 10:46 AM	#1
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07-20-2006, 11:21 AM	#2
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07-20-2006, 04:42 PM	#4
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,108	Sandra was 227.
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07-20-2006, 06:22 PM	#5
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,817	I had no idea Sandra ever left the show! I used to watch the show when it was new (my favorite episode is the Pee-wee Herman one). I bought the DVD, but couldn't get back into the show again. But I can imagine it wouldn't be as good without her.

08-11-2006, 11:23 PM	#6
JuicyCoutureGirl L Hath No Fury Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 09, 2006 Location: Drinking Margaritas With The L Word Ladies at The Planet Posts: 782	Heck no! The show was god awful, they had to add four goofballs to fill Jackee's shoes(Paul Winfred, hell, I got to give it to him, he's a gifted actor but to join 227, what was he THINKING?) The sex appeal was gone, that's why most people watched the show after Sandra Clark left(i.e: Jackee's ego was too big, she thought she didn't need the show, boy was she wrong....). Dylan the corny teacher(how in the world they let this doofus in a school is beyond me), Travis the closet homosexual breakdancer with the greasy four years behind jerri curl(nothing wrong with homosexuals considering that i'm bi), and Eva the dumb blonde weaved baby voice loser who couldn't hold a job didn't fit the mold of this show. (BTW: Is it just me or did the producers try to make Alania Reed Hall a sex symbol after Jackee left..ex: the long reddish hair and some of the outfits she wore from frumpy Rose to Gypsy Rose Lee.)

08-24-2006, 03:19 PM	#7
Mrgman Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 12, 2005 Posts: 658	I liked it after sandra left. I liked Travis one of the people that joined later

09-01-2006, 08:19 AM	#8
88survivor Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 03, 2006 Location: NY Posts: 1,848	One thing I didn't like was there was no conclusion. That's all.

12-07-2006, 10:58 PM	#9
KristinHerreraFan Dana is Buena Senior Member Join Date: Jan 16, 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,791	Don't you guys find it odd that of the 7 of the 24 season 5 episodes Sandra was in just HAD to be shown towards the beginning of the season?? It's like they wanted to rush her character through the beginning of the season so they could write her off the show. One of the reasons why Season 5 was low in the ratings was because of lack of Sandra, if they had spread those 7 episodes she was in throughout the season, and not just shuffle them in the beginning, maybe it wouldn't have sucked so bad. But NOOOO, they had to be shown quick! Another thing that bothered me is that her character was absent with no resolution. Her last episode was "The Perfume Game" which was the one when she works for the agency place and the guy steals her idea. After that episode, her name is never said again nor is the explanation of her sudden dissappearance shown. Which is VERRRRRYYYY un-realistic because Sandra ALWAYS visited Mary's apartment! And what? Just out of the blue she's gonna stop?

12-10-2006, 03:42 PM	#11
88survivor Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 03, 2006 Location: NY Posts: 1,848	After that, the show went downhill.

12-22-2006, 02:25 PM	#15
Scoobiedoo30 Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Jun 27, 2002 Location: KENNER, LOUISIANA Posts: 27,654	Sandra did make a Guest Staring role on 227